[DOUBLE]Eating System

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:43 pm

Current System:

Each food you eat decreases your hunger.
If you eat 'cheap' food, you get a chance of getting poisoned
There is no risk in eating cooked food.
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Why I don't like the system

1) A cook is not always goign to be present
2) If you're hungry, and you can't afford the expensive cooked food, you might get poisoned and die
3) It makes no sense. If you get just ONE apple from an apple tree, then I bet you didn't choose the one which looked most rotten did you?
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Proposal of a New system

There are 3 kinds of food
i) 'Free' food (Apples, cherries ect) [stuff which you can get for free]
ii) 'Cooked' food (Bread, ect)
iii) 'High Class' food (Food which can only be made by expert cooks and is .: very expensive)

How it works:

The server keeps a track of how many of each type of food you ate.
Once you reach 15 instances of any one food type, the following will happen

a) 15 free food. You haven't been eating very well, you're eating poorer then other people, and so you're more likely to catch illnesses. You lose 2 points of constitution.

b) 15 cooked food. You've been eating all right, you're taking a balanced diet, and you're at your best. Your constitution remains unchanged

c) 15 Highclass food. You've been eating the best possible diet. You gain 2 points of constitution.
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The constitution drain/increase is ONLY valid for 2 point, it never gets more, or less.

(So if you just always eat free food, you'll just stay with -2 constitution)

Now, this bonus/penalty needs to be given an upkeep.

Once a food type has reached 15, the others are reset to 0.

So if you used to eat badly before , but you did 15 instances (which is a lot) of food, then you arranged your diet and you're better now.

If you die, you reset to all 0, and have eaten a NORMAL diet.

(So no killing yourself with hunger just to keep it)

Comments?

ADDED:

Example

John is a very poor farmer. He always seems to spend his days sick in bed, the doctor says its due to his poor diet; in fact, when he started eating bread instead of the rubbish he found outside, his health improved.

Sir Charles is a knight. The secret of his success seemed to be due to his rich diet. After the battle of Lost Hope, Sir Charles was forced to flee into the wilderness, living on berries and grubs. In fact, when he returned to the city, he looked significantly weaker and more fragile

ADDED

Special races

Lizardfolk treat RAW FISH as normal food
Other foods for them counts as "free food" (its not good for their diet)
Fish based cooked foods (cleaned fish ect...) counts as "High-class" foods

Fairies :

Meat Based: Free
Fruit Based : Cooked
Cooked Fruit Based: High-class [Example Pies]
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Orcs/Dwarves

Fruit Based: Free
Meat Based: Cooked [Pork is here for them]
Cooked Meat Based: High-class

MAGIC

Create food spell = Cooked Food
Food Potion = Cooked Food

Post by **Nitram** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:52 pm

All in all i like it.

Where do you put our loved "ham" in?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:56 pm

Nitram wrote:All in all i like it.

Where do you put our loved "ham" in?

I'd put ham as free food really. It takes no skill to get, and there's a lot of it about...

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:56 pm

and in which categorie comes the food spell in magic?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:00 pm

Well, since its magic food...

I'd put it either as the "cooked" diet.

Otherwise, they wouldn't effect any of the bars (it IS magic after all)

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:01 pm

the "lazy" type

Normal I guess

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:03 pm

Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:the "lazy" type

Normal I guess

Mages need their constitution, since its usually quite weak

So, it wouldn't be nice to penalise them for making their own food.

But if they want the bonus, they'll have to fork out some coppers

pharse · Post by **pharse** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:05 pm

I think the spell shouldn´t affect your health like food does. Otherwise one could pay some coppers to a mage for 15 food spells to recover...

Food should remain a monopoly for the cooks.

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:05 pm

Very good proposal, I love it all-in-all

abcfantasy · Post by **abcfantasy** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:06 pm

If you eat 10 'free' food, then eat 5 'cooked' food, and finally 5 more 'free' food...will you lose 2 constitution or will the counter reset?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:06 pm

Note:

Added a new section for lizardfolk, which shoudln't be treated in the same manner

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:08 pm

abcfantasy wrote:If you eat 10 'free' food, then eat 5 'cooked' food, and finally 5 more 'free' food...will you lose 2 constitution or will the counter reset?

The counter will reset AND

You will lose 2 constitution

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I used 15 to signify a stable diet. 15 food is a lot really.

F 10
C 0
H 0
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F 10
C 5
H 0
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F 15
C 5
H 0
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F 0 [Mode = -2 constitution]
C 0
H 0

Pellandria · Post by **Pellandria** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:09 pm

Well apples and fruits should be normal food for fairys, don't you think?

abcfantasy · Post by **abcfantasy** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:10 pm

So...You can eat 14 'free' food...then 14 'cooked' food...and then 1 'free' food and lose 2 contitution? Then you need 1 or 15 cooked food to remove the penalty?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:11 pm

Pellandria wrote:Well apples and fruits should be normal food for fairys, don't you think?

Aaaargh *sobs*

Complexity is the bane of programming
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Fairies :

Meat Based: Bad
Fruit Based : Normal
Cooked Fruit Based: High-class [Example Pies]
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Orcs

Fruit Based: Bad
Meat Based: Normal [Pork is here for them]
Cooked Meat Based: High-class

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@ abcfantasy:

You'll need 15 again (I know, I don't lyke it that much either, but I don't want to complicate it too much, then it'll get ugly to program)

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:12 pm

I think the spell shouldn´t affect your health like food does. Otherwise one could pay some coppers to a mage for 15 food spells to recover...

mages cant cast the food spells on others, just on themself.
and i too think that the spell should be the average meal. no penalties, no advantages to constitution.

Pellandria · Post by **Pellandria** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:12 pm

Maybe it would be better with percentage..everyone starts out with 50% with free food it goes down and with good cooked food it gets higher, very fast, normal food lets you stay on your percentage if you are under 75% or over 25%?

pharse · Post by **pharse** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:14 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:mages cant cast the food spells on others, just on themself.
and i too think that the spell should be the average meal. no penalties, no advantages to constitution.

My point was that the spell should be neither free, nor cooked, nor high class food. It´s magic, not food, so it doesn´t affect your body like food does.

abcfantasy · Post by **abcfantasy** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:14 pm

Yeah I kinda like Pella's idea. But normal food will always shift the percentage towards 50%.

Oh, and food potions give no penalty/bonus I assume right?

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:15 pm

Then the spell would become useless

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face it, the spell is there. accept that. it fills currently your food bar. so it will with those new food system. just like food potions.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:15 pm

Pellandria wrote:Maybe it would be better with percentage..everyone starts out with 50% with free food it goes down and with good cooked food it gets higher, very fast, normal food lets you stay on your percentage if you are under 75% or over 25%?

That sounds rather complicated

I'm trying to keep a stable and easy system, so its easier to program.

Hmm, I'm kind of understanding it, however it might be open to abuse.

For example, you arrive at the low diet, then you eat a lot of rich stuff very quickly, and you boost it up back to normal.

No i'd rather have 15 as a determinant for a stable diet, it'll also mean the changes aren't that common.

pharse · Post by **pharse** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:19 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Then the spell would become useless

No. Its use is not to let you starve. Food bar filled, use fulfilled.

Same with food potions. Only REAL food can affect your constitution, anything else will just fill your food bar.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:21 pm

Thats why it falls under "cooked" food.

Your constitution wont be changed. No bonus, no penalty either
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Pellandria:

I suggest you open a new thread with your food idea. You could make something out of it

Tann · Post by **Tann** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:26 pm

I dont see why fruit would be bad for humans, they need it as much as the cooked food if not more..

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:27 pm

can you live only with apples?

Tann · Post by **Tann** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:30 pm

Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:can you live only with apples?

no, but eating them along with other things adds to nutrition ;p

pharse · Post by **pharse** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:32 pm

I think it´s very hard to simulate a balanced diet. So it´s easier to discriminate the quality of meals.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:32 pm

Tann wrote:I dont see why fruit would be bad for humans, they need it as much as the cooked food if not more..

Its there to give a job to cooks, thats all.

Currently apples can 'posion' you, which i don't agree with.

Tann · Post by **Tann** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:33 pm

I just thought that before I posted my last, so I think I'll shut my trap now

Thomas Greenbottom · Post by **Thomas Greenbottom** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:36 pm

Could orcs eat raw meat (pork)? That way they don't have to force a cook to cook it for them.