Paul Laffing and Armil Darken: Your "stores"

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 3:20 am

I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that during the medieval era of Illarion, people didn't call their stores a "Company" or an "Agency". Maybe I've seen "company" in another medieval game, but it was closer to an era when guns were introduced, but I'm pretty sure about "agency". So you might want to think about changing your store names into something that fits more into a medieval context. I think most multi-member organizations would be called guilds, and stores would just be shops, or some kind of service.

Mishrack · Post by **Mishrack** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 4:33 am

Well, to take this a bit further, "store" is an americanism, and would thus not have been used in the middle ages either

Zasmia · Post by **Zasmia** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 4:48 am

Oh yes!

Now that we have such a pretty market place, nobody seems to use it. Shops were rare in the medieval times, most trade was done on the market place. Cities that obtained the right to do a market where not more a simple city, they where a privileged city.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:00 am

If you are referring to that huge pavement in front of the tavern, I don't think many people share the view that it looks like a marketplace. I also think marketplaces were more in the center of the city, not on the edge.

Zasmia · Post by **Zasmia** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:03 am

Nope...

Actually markets took the place they could gain. It was a lot of work for the town officials to gain this rights and it took lots of time to obtain them.
Later merchants build their storehouses around that place and it became the middle of the town.

There is a topic (only in german

) that declares this place to be a market place. And if it isn´t planned to be a market place, for what is that "huge pavement" there at all?

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Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:26 am

It's planned to be a marketplace, but nobody that I know thinks it looks like one, so they don't use it. It's also not convenient as it is located far from where all the business usually is. To me it looks more like some kind of stage or platfrom for a show or performance or a fight. I don't really think people had their stalls in the marketplace on a section of pavement, at least not in a small town like ours.

Zasmia · Post by **Zasmia** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:05 am

Hello again, dear Dyluck

Dyluck wrote:It's planned to be a marketplace, but nobody that I know thinks it looks like one, so they don't use it.

My Character is planned to be a female halfling, but nobody that I know thinks it looks like one, so I ain´t a female halfling...?

Another lack of RP... neither the worshop is used as a workshop (at least not by many) nor the marketplace gets used for what it is.

People roam arround between Eliza and the forge... selling and selling things over and over again. Why don´t we take the chance, now that we have something that looks like kind of a market place and sell things there?

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:18 am

Zasmia wrote: My Character is planned to be a female halfling, but nobody that I know thinks it looks like one, so I ain´t a female halfling...?

If somebody who never met you before and saw you, I'm sure they won't identify you as a female halfling.

Zasmia wrote: People roam arround between Eliza and the forge... selling and selling things over and over again. Why don´t we take the chance, now that we have something that looks like kind of a market place and sell things there?

Like I said, it's because it doesn't look like a market place (so most of the english players would never have even guessed just by looking at it since there was no english thread), and that it's located inconveniently. Therefore they don't want to use it, such is how the minds of the people work. Besides, when they're not trading, who wants to stand in that lonely place all day? So even if people use it sometimes, you would not always know anyways.

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:31 am

Mishrack wrote:Well, to take this a bit further, "store" is an americanism, and would thus not have been used in the middle ages either

Actually, it's Roman. Some roman made an open stall area and it was called a "Stor".

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:32 am

My understanding was that it was meant to be farmland (although I could be mistaken).

Caranthir the great · Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:33 am

I agree that if the plaza was ment to be a marketplace, it should be relocated since in it's current position it doesn't attarct anyone to trade in there.

Perhaps closer to the smithingplace and shop would be better?
(If so, then the 'grainsmasher' would propably have to be relocated)

Mishrack · Post by **Mishrack** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 12:23 pm

Actually, it's Roman. Some roman made an open stall area and it was called a "Stor".

Point well taken, I withdraw my argument