Roleplaying Evil

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:44 pm

Too bad you probably won't find your targets Jocas.
Most of your so called friends and enemies may have already disappeared.

Shadow Wraith · Post by **Shadow Wraith** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 1:44 am

Caran, i saw you in the store the other day.

You are one delicious dwarf if you dont mind me complementing.

I happen to find the line between evil and psycho very thin...

@Christina,
try the dark side, it wont hurt one bit.
if you dont like it you can always return back if you dont like it.

You know, i just found out that from some people that live near me that there is a satanic church near a preschool...
i saw it once, all the windows are covered and bared.
there was once when i found a straw cross on the ground, not far away was several dead pidgeons and robins.... (about 3-5 total)
im not saying that they had something to do with it but i found it amusing.

dont worry, im not any crazier in real life.....
or evil

PS.
isnt zuljin.... a warcraft hero?
-how original.

let me guess --- zuljin is a orc?

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 2:30 am

He's an elf with powerful magic, and a pile of shields. He tends to walk around firing spells at random people.

Shadow Wraith · Post by **Shadow Wraith** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 12:32 pm

oh well, zuljin in warcraft is a troll, arch-rival of elves.

guess it makes sence somewhere around there.
i be he just need some love.

Hey Korwin, do you wish to join the DaRK --------SIDE?---------

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 6:02 pm

Moyáve wrote:what if your char is just evil, because its his character? Can i not play a char who's just naturally mean, likes to draw attention on himself, loves to see the town burning...and so on? Of course i could think of reasons WHY he is evil but i'd like to play a char who's evil because it's in his nature.
Here in illarion it's really hard to play such a char... If your char kills someone, just out of bloodthirst (hope this word can be used) you are called Pk. Actually, if you even play an evil char without killing anyone, they will find reasons to get rid of you ("they" can either be players or gms)

I don't believe that such people exist. Even such a person woun't run around and senselessly kill someone without any reason. At least he won't do very long, since he would be jailed or killed fast. Our classic PKs (that persons that I delete, from whom you say GMs "find reasons to get rid of them") just kill without thinking about the possibility to get killed theirself. No real person would do that. They can't go to the cross, get revived and go to kill again. Therefore they would act completely different.

Jocast wrote:Don't be evil, regardless of what people say on boards, it is not possible. If it was there would be one good example of a evil player from since the beginning of illarion, and there is not. If you wanna be evil, find a new game, or else your gonna find yourslef on the bad end of a ban.

There were (and I think there are) evil people in the game, but many of them have left, because ther players couldn't handle them (and some "good" players were running around, violating the game rules to kill these "PKs").

Jocast wrote:I have a life time ban, so only have long enough to get my hands on a few peoples throats. Fortunately many of the power gaming bugs are still here so should be able to become strong enough in a day or two. More than likely my characters will be banned

Every roleplaying person can see from the few postings Jocas made here, what type of person he is, that can't claim to do any roleplaying.
1) His reason to kill other persons with his new character is that he had problems with them with his old character
2) He uses powergaming to get very strong in two days

Many more reasons led to his permanent ban, but this two serious reasons can be seen in the three postings he made here.

Marduk Kurious · Post by **Marduk Kurious** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:52 am

hm i'm confused about the evil thing as well, i mean its like this, if your going to be evil, think of others first just to make sure you don't harm the innocent innocent ones, and if you attack the town successfully 2 times then you get deleted for being too strong and evil, also your skills get drained, i can see the point in evilness having consiquences, but i think if someone wants to punish an evil person, they should do it in battle, not JUST do it. Take this char for example, he lost his mind completely along time ago, destroyed the town in blue flames, he was follower of moshran and stuff, and now deleted. He did have an anger management problem, but no one wants to be a shrink cuz it doesn't have a skill and you don't get gold for it. So what help could he get besides just being outbursting in anger? He did finally learn to be good, but.. then he got deleted, so whats the point of being evil if you have to think good in alot of ways? Such as be careful who you kill, and if you get angry too much then keep it to yourself so that others can live, tell me how thats being evil? Being evil is being merciless, showing no remorse what so ever. Having no love for life and wanting to destroy it at every chance you want. Just think about it. And say to the least, no one will help you through being angry either, so basically by being evil, its being alone. Unless you have followers that is. But in most case, its being alone. And when you do kill out of evilness, they call it pk to justify their losing to you. So give warning before you attack, marduk did everytime he attacked the town. So that way you at least give the time for those that are new time to leave the area so you can start your destruction. Belrog, is semi-evil, mainly just controlled right now with the curse he has, oh btw, that reminds me, don't tell them way ahead of time that your going to attack the town

, cuz a human named Niniane will whip your tail with arrows. Belrog learned the hard way

. And yes he is rallying up orcs alongside of veralion, but you can't this knowledge i give you here into the game or else thats not roleplaying, but anywho where was i, oh yeah, remember with every good action is a good response and a bad action is a bad response so don't feel bad if you get a bad response from your actions. Anyways, i guess i wrote way more then i thought i would so see ya!

Marduk Kurious · Post by **Marduk Kurious** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:59 am

one more thing, can i have the old marduk kurious back puhleez! franjel said i could, i can forward the email to you if you want, i'm not going to do anything evil on him again, he learned his lesson, and turned good because elaralith showed him a good side.

Toren the Myrimdon · Post by **Toren the Myrimdon** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:28 am

In my opinion evil does not exist. It is simply a matter of opinion. What one person might find evil, another might find heroic. Say for instance if there were a war between Orks and halflings for example, a celebrated ork hero would probably be a hated evil being to the halflings and visa versa.

What most people try to play out as "evil" usually only end up acting as jerks. However true Villany lies in Treason, Trickery, Decietfulness, and backstabbing.

Toren the Myrimdon · Post by **Toren the Myrimdon** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:36 am

btw id like to add that I for one have no problem with people playing villians, or even jerks for that matter. There are many in the real world and therefore it only makes sense that there would be many in a fantasy world.

As long as you keep IC and OOC as seperate as possible, I for one ccould care less about how your character acts... Because afterall, what goes around comes around.

Marduk Kurious · Post by **Marduk Kurious** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:39 am

yah your gonna hate me for replying again but this question just dawned on me, how is world domination possible in illarion? Its possible in rl, and if someone is genious enough *talks with high self esteem* and has the army, wouldn't they deserve their role as taking over the world? Of course a band of gods could oversee that and wage war with them which would be awsome i think, hehe just think of the movie "Fellowship of the ring, or two towers" when the wars took place, just think of something like that happening in illarion. Besides orcs are supposed to be evil, its their nature, for one, an orc's behavior "roleplaying like" should be short tempered and dirty. I have to admit, i've done alot of non roleplaying back in the day with belrog but thats going to change since he's going back to the old ways of the orcs, orcs are like a band of brothers, they fight and die together. Well just think about what i asked k?

Marduk Kurious · Post by **Marduk Kurious** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:43 am

I agree, but those who go on a killing rampage, don't they exist? For instance, cereal killers *yah people who use cereal to kill with or something, i still don't know why they use that term* they do exist, and some people really don't have any love for life, society likes to put these people in the catagory of crazy's, "Cereal" killers, and people delt on revenge. They exist. Just because we see the world one way, doesn't mean someone else see's it completely diffrent. Sure we can say one thing doesn't exist, but truely, who really knows?

Toren the Myrimdon · Post by **Toren the Myrimdon** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:44 am

its Serial killer not Cereal lol.. And they are called that because a) they generally fit a pretty exact profile b) they usually kill in the same way every time and for the same irrational reasons over and over.

and yes, they do exist. But i think its a good idea to try to keep that stuff out of Illarion because its more damage than it would do good. senseless PKing generally promotes more senseless PKing until you have a stockpile of powergamers looking for revenge.

Marduk Kurious · Post by **Marduk Kurious** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:17 am

Then all the more reason killing with reasons should be allowed, i was just stating that because someone stated that they think everyone lives a peachy clean life, but alot out there don't.

Caranthir the great · Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:26 am

Killing with a valid reason is not forbidden...
What's the sudden urge of getting acceptation for more killings?
Sure, Serial killers exist.
But what happens to the in real life? They are either in jail for life, or then they are killed.
You seem to miss the point, that in real life, when someone kills you, you can't be resurrected. And in Illarion, pk's just resurrect themselves, and continue from where they were stopped.

Marduk Kurious · Post by **Marduk Kurious** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:09 pm

Yes, but many get away with it caranthir.