-Judicial Happenings in Trollsbane-

Lrmy · Post by **Lrmy** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:38 am

Garett Gwenour wrote:The Bandit looking like ((133)) as well as a dwarf smith looking like ((162)) had taken an elfess hostage, and demanded 60 silver coins for her safe release. I paid, and don't really expect the King in all his graciousness to pay me back regardless for the crime being commited on his lands and to his subjects, nonetheless I would expect these individuals to be wanted and hunted out by the royal guards.

Stephen Rothman

I had a problem with these two. It also involved a female elf, prehaps the same one.

Jack

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:21 am

To whom it may concern,

A human looking like ((122...)) had attacked a young maiden,"Secily" by the Hospital early this morning. Despite my fear, I asked him to stop. When he did not, I shot some arrows at him, causing him to run away. I do not know who it was, but the maiden's "honor" is intact. Be wary of this predator amongst you.

In Service,
~Dusty Bottoms~

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:26 am

Noted on both, parchment updated.

Fooser I

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:01 am

Lrmy wrote:
Garett Gwenour wrote:The Bandit looking like ((133)) as well as a dwarf smith looking like ((162)) had taken an elfess hostage, and demanded 60 silver coins for her safe release. I paid, and don't really expect the King in all his graciousness to pay me back regardless for the crime being commited on his lands and to his subjects, nonetheless I would expect these individuals to be wanted and hunted out by the royal guards.

Stephen Rothman
I had a problem with these two. It also involved a female elf, prehaps the same one.

Jack

This man is now wanted, dead or alive by the Royal Guard of Trollsbane. He has refused a peaceful trip to jail, struck down guards and endangered the safety of the townsfolk.
Again he looks like ((133..)) and should be apprehended with caution.

~Royal Guard Atrineas of Trollsbane

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:12 pm

Human looking like ((1012)) and a floating blue ghost are wanted for assault, and murder. This perhaps sounds like Retlak and his friends, but it is unsure right now.

Fooser I

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:55 pm

Halvdan is another theif all should be made aware of, he will ask to see a certain item and of course steal it. Quick on his feet, I would advise being wary of his foul profession.

Stephen Rothman

Gudrun · Post by **Gudrun** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:18 am

Might one ask, what was stolen?
Was it really the Sword of Kallahorn, like the rumors state?

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:33 am

Greetings, Stephen, Knight of Kallahorn!

you write, that one of our folk is a thief.

might it be, that you are misstaken? that you err, concerning, who stole your precious sword?
Or was it no sword? i heard rumors, that it was the sword of kallahorn, you miss.
i am wondering a bit, that it should have been our clansman, who stole that sword, or whatever was stolen, from you.
because, to my knowledge he is not roaming about, but smithing all day long for nearly a week now.
for our construction, you know.

signed:

Tjalf Kormson

Jarl of the Dragon Clan
Co-Leader of the Nordmark

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:37 am

It was not the sword of Kallahorn that was stolen, however it was a rare and potent blade, and yes it was Halvdan who stole from myself. It is ment for my next student and as such I will be getting it returned promptly I prefer. I advise you to hand over Halvdan or the blade itself or else you will find yourself dealing with me on your own lands until I retrieve what was stolen from me.

Stephen Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:06 pm

Greetings, Stehen, Knight of Kallahorn!

do you want to insult me? writing a letter, without greetin the one, to whom it is?

whoever stole your sword, if it was stolen, i am glad for you, that it was not your most precious blade of your order.

I advise you to hand over Halvdan or the blade itself or else you will find yourself dealing with me on your own lands until I retrieve what was stolen from me.

well, you state for a second time, that it was halvdan, who stole it. without backing up that statement.

and you "advise" me to do, what you want, menaceing to break the peace of our land.

sir, first it should be known, where the act of stealing took place, if it took place.
second, the authorities of that territory have to give sentence after a fair trial.
if, in that fair trial one of our people will be found guilty, then come and ask me, or other authorities of the nordmark, to interfere.

if you were not a knight of an honourable order, i might think you were trying to blackmail me or us.

but i prefer to think, that you are just too upset, to express yourself properly.
so i Advise you urgently, to rephrase.

Tjalf Kormson

Jarl of the Dragonclan
Co - Leader of the Nordmark

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:48 pm

Hardly blackmailing but stating afact, Halvdan was seen running from me by Magnus Magnol. And I know for a fact he stole from me. If you give him safe haven I will go into your lands to retrieve what he stole from me. You may be cooperative or not, it will not change the eventual outcome. As the crime was commited on a foreign land I do not see how your court holds any wieght over the punishment or decision upon guilt. Halvdan has always been a fool and a theif it should not be a surprise to find out he does what fools and thieves do.

Stephen Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:57 pm

Greetings Tjalf Kormson,

If Halvdan has stole the sword and that there were people that seen it (Magnus Magnol as example), then the sword has to be given back, Trollsbane does not have organised ways to make trials and it would be useless anyway. Stealing is seen as very unhonorable by the knighthood and will not be tolerated, we shall wait for Magnus's view of the happenings or any other persons that seen it and if it is said that Halvdan has stole it, then I will request a permanent ban from Halvdan of your lands until he gives back the sword.
______________________
Arameh,
High Knight of Kallahorn

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:20 pm

Greetings, Arameh, High Knight of Kallahorn!

If Halvdan has stole the sword ... is what you wrote. and that is the whole point.
untill now there is only an accusation of a person, that claims to be a knight, but behaves not like one.
from your words i take the impression, that the alledged theft, might have ocurred in trollsbane.
last, what i heard about trollsbane, is, that they have a magistrate-king.
so i would suggest, the victim of the - alledged - theft presents his case before King Fooser I.
(instead of telling all the world, who he thinks to be a thief)

i agree with you, that stealing is very unhonorable. but, by the knighthood, how is slander and lieing seen?

i still have not talked to halvdan about this, so i ignore, if he really was present at the place of the alledged theft.
but, if he was there, running from a person like stephen rothmann is no proof of being a thief. seems more to be proof of selfpreservation and cautiousness.
and, if this discourteous member of your order wants halvdan found guilty on the sole fact, that "Halvdan has always been a fool and a theif", than we should, may be, take himself for a unscroupulous, aggressive and lieing person? - because that is what he is known for among many people.

i agree with you on this point: we shall wait for Magnus's view of the happenings or any other persons that seen it and if it is said that Halvdan has stole it.
i repeat, that i expect a trial to be held about this accusation by the authorities of the land, where the alledged theft is said to have taken place.

Tjalf Kormson

Jarl of the Dragonclan
Co - Leader of the Nordmark

Halvdan · Post by **Halvdan** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:40 pm

but, why did you want to sell this sword to me? it was clear, that is stole this sword, because before this i had a second chace to steal it, at this time, you tried to sell too. and, if it is the famous sword of kallahorn, why did you try to sell it? is there no kodex or so?

~halvdan~

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:41 pm

The problem is, what Stephen wants is the sword, he does not want to have to wait months for a trial to be organised, in this amount of time Halvdan would probably already have sold the sword, and getting punished will not give back the loss to Stephen. We cannot organise trials, each of which requires a good amount of time and preparation, for everything, that is just stupid. A steal is a steal, the item has to be given back, and THEN a trial should be made if the victim still wants to have a punishment for the criminal.
_____________________
Arameh,
High Knight of Kallahorn

Edit by Keikan:
Removed OOC.
Once you know how to 'behave medieval', you can teach others.

Halvdan · Post by **Halvdan** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:45 pm

aye, but everyone knows that i'm a criminal dwarf, and he says to me, that he don't want to make some business with me, i was surprised, that he let me take a look onto it, because it was clear that i stole it. and thank you korm, for defending me.

~halvdan~

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:03 pm

Greetings, Arameh, High Knight of Kallahorn!

well, if the sword was stolen or not - that question seems to be answered by halvdan.

but i would still like to know, where exactly the sword was stolen.

Tjalf Kormson

Jarl of the Dragonclan
Co - Leader of the Nordmark

Edit by Keikan:
Removed OOC.
You two never heard of PM's, have you?
sorry, you are right.korm

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:54 pm

If something was truly take without permission here, and it does not return to its right owner soon, bans and jail sentences might need to be placed.

Fooser I

Halvdan · Post by **Halvdan** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:19 pm

umm, but what is if i keep the sword forever?

~halvdan~

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:32 pm

If you can hide forever from me you may of course keep it. But rest assured I will hound you for some time before I let you keep such a trophy.

Stephen Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn

Achae Eanstray · Post by **Achae Eanstray** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:58 pm

Demetz wrote:aye, but everyone knows that i'm a criminal dwarf, and he says to me, that he don't want to make some business with me, i was surprised, that he let me take a look onto it, because it was clear that i stole it. and thank you korm, for defending me.

~halvdan~

*reads the notes and her eyes widen
I was not aware that you claim to be a criminal Sir, is this true?
I assume our conversation today at Greenbriar about possibly buying apple boards to be at an end? We prefer not to encourage criminals in the town even though a neutral town however we are still interested in buying the boards if this is an error. Please send me a dove.
Achae Eanstray
Interum Mayor of Greenbriar

Quinnalin Puideraline · Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:50 am

*a piece of parchment is tacked to the board. the corners are smeared slightly with blood*

To whom it may concern

I was attacked for a second time by a male orc looking like (( 1258... )), demanding I pay tax for the once bloodstained land near elizas shop which he claimed to be his. Royal Guard Eirik Thorfassen drove him out of town but I fear he will return please do something about him so that no further peaceful persons are harmed.

In Peace and Friendship,
Quinnalin

*The woman Limps away with as much dignity as she can muster while clutching her abdomen*

Mark Strongarm · Post by **Mark Strongarm** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:01 pm

I have apprehended Halvdan and have brought him to Trollsbane to be delt with. I have a serinjah that seems to be possesed with the power of lightning. This is the stolen blade?

Mark Strongarm

nmaguire · Post by **nmaguire** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:03 pm

Quinnalin Puideraline wrote:*a piece of parchment is tacked to the board. the corners are smeared slightly with blood*

To whom it may concern

I was attacked for a second time by a male orc looking like (( 1258... )), demanding I pay tax for the once bloodstained land near elizas shop which he claimed to be his. Royal Guard Eirik Thorfassen drove him out of town but I fear he will return please do something about him so that no further peaceful persons are harmed.

In Peace and Friendship,
Quinnalin

*The woman Limps away with as much dignity as she can muster while clutching her abdomen*

I believe the orc is named Gort Greegog.

~Unsigned~

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:47 pm

Gort is... back? Well I hope he's in his calmer mode...

At least Tugzug, Kl'urk and Alkuurg aren't around also.

~Unsigned~

Michael Zanar · Post by **Michael Zanar** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:17 am

The taxes in Trolls Bane are a mess as of late. I have seen that many owners have not been paying there taxes and many haven't payed for a long while. So this post will be for information on this so the owners know how much they need to pay before I aunction there properity off.

Proposal for Property/Tax Policy

1. There will be no fee for those wishing to become citizens.

2. No weekly tax will be paid by those who don't own property. This is unfair for them, and will cause concern among the citizens.

3. Public buildings (Workshop, Store) will not be taxed, unless they eventually recieve a private owner.

4. Groups/Individuals that do own property can be subject to a reasonable weekly tax, mostly based off the size of property owned, along with other factors.

5. For new property, it can be sold to those who wish to build homes or other structures. If you want to buy land within Trollsbane's jurasdiction you can do so by either:
A. Making a direct up-front payment for the land, then with no tax after.
B. Pay very little up front, but then subject to a weekly tax like other land owners.

6. Only Citizens can build housing structures within Trollsbane, or nearby. Service buildings are open for all if they have the money and materials. Buildings can be sold to anyone, but auctions can only be won by citizens, and auctions can only be held by the town.

7. Failure to produce proof of ownership can lead to reclaim of property by the town. Refusal to pay tax at any point forfeits your property. Missing 3 tax periods ((3 weeks)) will lead to the same thing.

Buildings and there owners.
Red- at risk of losing building
Orange- behind in taxes
Blue- no taxes

Trollsbane Shop
Owners: Public building, maintained by merchants, mostly Eliza.

Library
Owners: The Town of Trollsbane. Public Land for the moment.

Fluffy Sheep Tavern
Owned and Maintained by the Dwarves of Silverbrand.

Hospital Building
Owners: Owned by the Druids of the Forest. Untaxable due to contract.

Seahorse Inn
Owners: Thomas. Maintained by Samantha and Others.

Workshop
Owners: Public Building.

Town Jail
Owners: Town Government and Guards.

Gates into Trollsbane.
Owners: Town Government and Defenders.

Outside Arena
Owners: ??

Livestock Location
Owners: Public place.

Dark Pillar, near the lake.

Small Island that can be accessed by small boat from behind the inn.

House #1
Owner: Fooser

Silverbrand will be required to pay 300 coppers to me in the upcoming weeks or they will be upgraded to red.

Samantha is so far behind in taxes that I will look into it. If she cannot pay off the taxes in 2 weeks I will take the building and sell it in a aunction.

Fooser doesn't have any proof of owning the house and has no contract with it. Only reason it was his was because he was the Governor of Trolls Bane. The house is now under Trolls Bane's custody and will be aunctioned off in the near future.

Thank you,
Constantine Valentine
Govenor of Trolls Bane

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:25 am

How dare you to write i am far behind with my taxes, and how dare you to be so blunt to call me simply "Samantha"? I paid off my taxes in the past with my dutys, in which i protected trollsbane several times against attacks of demons and bandits. And I did an important part in doing so. Fooser self took that as a "payment" for the taxes, so be sure I am not that far behind.

I tried for over three weeks now to get in contact with you to discuss this topics, but you never answered or shown any sign of life in that time. And now you allow yourself to write something like that? After you ignored my tries to speak with you about all that?

And I want to inform you that Mister Fooser built for sure that little house while he was Governeur, from his own money. I can proof that, and many others. You have no right to take him now that house away just because YOU see no papers of property somewhere.

To decide if someone loses the property of his house is not by you, that will be a desicion to be make by the Magistrate. Never forget, you are the governeur, but not the absolute sovereign. You have no unlimited powers or possibility to decide over the town. You are elected by the peoples of this town, and so have to decide what is best for them, and not for you.

I wish to meet with you and discuss this with you directly. I also advise you to be more restrained and polite in the future, Mister Valentine. Don't allow yourself again to adress me that unpolite.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:18 pm

About Fooser's house, I hardly believe the money isnt coming from the town, where would the town's money have gone then? I would also mention the disappearing of the depot in front of the tavern, it was a very useful one and somehow got removed by no obvious reason, why is so?
_____________________
Arameh,
High Knight of Kallahorn

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:24 pm

What money did the town have? Two weeks of taxes that no one paid? Hardly enough to build a structure I would think. And what I did have went towards new keys and guard equiptment (some of which was my own money because taxes couldn't even cover that tiny charge). Not to mention Stephen, your buddy, supposedly had a large amount of town money after he ran off. The depot was traded to the Farmers Union, who are friends and allies of the town, you may ask whoever is over there if you don't believe it. Now do you have any other false slander you wish to put forth?

F

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:24 pm

The town had no money. All money the town ever had was gone with Stephen Rothman when he was chased away. He kept the money and never returned a single coin. And since the town had no money, Mister Fooser couldn't use the towns money.

A simple and logic fact.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~