looting

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:52 pm

ok I seen that people dont like to rp pick up items that would require you to be in plain sight ripping off dead bodies, so to make it fair how about a little message when you pick something up from a dead person it says "2342524 pick up an item from the dead body" or something of the sort.

what do yall think?

Nerian Finera · Post by **Nerian Finera** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:54 pm

It's generally quite unfair to loot dead bodies while fighting a battle...and it's rather ridicioulus...did you ever try to pick up a whole plate armor, while being in a fight?

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:57 pm

I agree but the it doesnt stop people from doing it. Perhaps we just need to stop the item drop from monsters in a huge quest so we dont have that problem.

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:05 pm

But in a real situation there would always be people running around, stepping over dead bodies, just to get there hands on the loot. In that time period, people used to grave rob!

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:09 pm

But not in the middle of a fight. You would be slain yourself while trying to rip the armor off a dead body or walk away with the hands full of stuff.

Mr. Cromwell · Post by **Mr. Cromwell** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:15 pm

True, but do we really need yet another message to clutter up the screen with? In a big fight most people probably wouldn't even notice it anyway because of all the magic-spamming..

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:18 pm

And I used to try to #me when picking up stuff, but no-one else did, so i never got to pick it up before someone else. And I agree it is bad rp if they are actually fighting against people whilst looting, but some chars just run around staying out of battle and looting. And I think that is absolutley fine.

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:20 pm

well, this is more of a tehnical problem cos' if you let the stuff on the ground you risk them to rot away

(that doesn't happen in rl

)

Gwendolin Cad'ell · Post by **Gwendolin Cad'ell** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:38 pm

A friend of mine who started playing about 2 weeks ago, was rather frustrated about, that her char fought in the battle against Negros, .. then died. And people picked up her stuff and were gone with it.

I understand it

you're fighting in a battle and then your own 'battle comrades' loot your body - though they are fighting for the same matter.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:40 pm

Small things (coins and the lyke) i beleive SHOULD be allowed to be looted. Armor would require you to spend a few minutes playing around with the corpse, so its not somethign someone would steal.

My two cents

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:40 pm

Everybody for himself .. like in real life

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:43 pm

shouldnt the armor be busted too from all that fighting. I mean you cant really kill somone uless you get through their armor anyways

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:46 pm

What Gwen wants to say is, when you take the stuff of a fallen one and keep it you steal it. and you as a player should think twice if your char would steal, or not.

i saw often chars looting and keeping stuff from others who shouldnt do that, because stealing doesnt fit to the chars rp.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:46 pm

Unless you cleave , or bash their heads in/off.

In RL, if someone caught you looting one of your comrads, you'd probably get a sword through your head....

So, having said this, give us the opportunity to reanact this part of history....and #me it for us, so we can rip looter's heads off..

Thank you

nmaguire · Post by **nmaguire** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:46 pm

Actually.. the way to kill knights in that time wasn't go get THROUGH thier armor. The armor was so heavy, that they just knocked the knights into their backs, and they couldn't get up. Then someone when round with a hammer and chisel, and lifted each knight's visor up, put the chisel onto his face, and BANG with the hammer. Dead knights aplenty.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:57 pm

Hammer? clisel?

I'd imagine they'd use a nice halberd to do that instead

^ pointy bit

Achae Eanstray · Post by **Achae Eanstray** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:35 pm

I know that in RL someone may, or may not see the looting, in the thick of battle with a #me, it would be either seen or not as in life?

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:30 pm

I loot, Stephen Loots, all because in real life armor doesnt disappear when it is on grass for more then 5 minutes. He holds it for people, but if no one comes around, he keeps it. It isn't his fault people don't listen to him when he tells them to fall back

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:42 pm

I loot, Retlak Loots, all because in real life armor doesnt disappear when it is on grass for more then 5 minutes. He holds it for people, but if no one comes around, he keeps it. Although he keeps it anyway. It isn't his fault people don't listen to him when he tells them to fall back

This would fit me when i used to play ^^

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:45 pm

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:18 pm

hmmmm.....

I saw a movie once, I can't remember anything about it, except for during a war, a soldier got greedy and tried to loot something really heavy. He was then killed.

I see nothing wrong with looting, but I think it does deserve some #me's. If my armor broke, I would loot some other armor. Looting too far is taking plate armor off the ground with one hand, while you battle a demon with the other.

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:42 am

well it does make one mad when newbs walk around steeling things from other peoples kills...like after i killed a red skelleton i got attacked by another so i turned an because to fight it...the first skelleton i killed droped some type of armor and a magic lighting sword...i was waiting to pick it up when about 3 people (dwarf and 2 humans that were doing no fighting at all because i watched them ) came and took it before i had a chance to do anything...then when i asked them they all 3 said they didnt have it...no Rp nothing...my only sugestion is the items some how apear in you inventory which i see many draw back to Rp and reality of the game...but yeah...a lighting sword just stolen with no RP right from under my nose...does piss one off

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:54 am

that why I think the messeage should appeare that says 34543545* picked up an item

Urilen Quanasuard · Post by **Urilen Quanasuard** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:55 am

Gabon Corad wrote:well it does make one mad when newbs walk around steeling things from other peoples kills...like after i killed a red skelleton i got attacked by another so i turned an because to fight it...the first skelleton i killed droped some type of armor and a magic lighting sword...i was waiting to pick it up when about 3 people (dwarf and 2 humans that were doing no fighting at all because i watched them ) came and took it before i had a chance to do anything...then when i asked them they all 3 said they didnt have it...no Rp nothing...my only sugestion is the items some how apear in you inventory which i see many draw back to Rp and reality of the game...but yeah...a lighting sword just stolen with no RP right from under my nose...does piss one off

Solution is to pwn them up the ass. You know Gabon can do it.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:06 am

Urilen Quanasuard wrote:
Gabon Corad wrote:well it does make one mad when newbs walk around steeling things from other peoples kills...like after i killed a red skelleton i got attacked by another so i turned an because to fight it...the first skelleton i killed droped some type of armor and a magic lighting sword...i was waiting to pick it up when about 3 people (dwarf and 2 humans that were doing no fighting at all because i watched them ) came and took it before i had a chance to do anything...then when i asked them they all 3 said they didnt have it...no Rp nothing...my only sugestion is the items some how apear in you inventory which i see many draw back to Rp and reality of the game...but yeah...a lighting sword just stolen with no RP right from under my nose...does piss one off

Solution is to pwn them up the ass. You know Gabon can do it.

yep. !name them and get revenge later.

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:47 am

but when there 3 and you dont know which one actually took it its hard to !name them and yes i could kill them but we were in the middle of a battle and it would look wierd if i just seemed to randomly attack 3 people

Edit. Hu's idea sounds good to me

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:50 am

Hu's idea would cause massive spam in the chat box. Can you imagine doing trades?

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:01 am

ah your deffinatly right...but it would be nice to know if the person recieved the item or not

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:10 am

make it then as a wisper.... ok its not that much better but still an improvement.

work with me now there has to be something that can be done...

the !name idea still pwn mine and it wasnt a serious one either

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:13 pm

nmaguire wrote:Actually.. the way to kill knights in that time wasn't go get THROUGH thier armor. The armor was so heavy, that they just knocked the knights into their backs, and they couldn't get up. Then someone when round with a hammer and chisel, and lifted each knight's visor up, put the chisel onto his face, and BANG with the hammer. Dead knights aplenty.

A little late but:

The pick-axe was designed to go through. smash it in their chest, and then not only do they have a cut, but the pick will press the armor into the cut, making it so the blood wouldflow out freely.

though I do find the chisel and hammer thing interesting. sounds like a peasant's job.