~ Building Rules / Bauregeln ~

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:02 pm

Die gültigen Bauregeln und Preislisten können unter folgendem Link eingesehen werden. Fragen und Diskussionen können hier im Topic gestellt werden.

http://illarion.org/illarion/build_rule ... _rules.php?

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The building rules and price lists can be found in use of following link. Questions and dicussions here in this topic.

http://illarion.org/illarion/build_rule ... _rules.php?

J S · Post by **J S** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:09 pm

My personal opinion is that.. the prices are.. kind of cheap..
I mean.. in the matter of two weeks, Johnny Lant managed to gather up about 100 silvers worth just by tailoring and selling..

Not sure..

Just my opinion though..

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:11 pm

Perhaps by extreme powrgaming and selling shoes to greenbriar halfling?

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:11 pm

Powergamer.

Not everyone has all day to play, some have work and school.

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:12 pm

As long player are active its equal. If it helps to give them the possibility back to found own homes, the prices are not so important.

But in general, of course. If changes are needed we change the rules and pricelist.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:12 pm

1) Fields as in a tile?

2) I think its a bit unbalanced. A bed costs more then a grindstone, and one is just there for RP, the other can actually be used .. still

Thank you ^^

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:13 pm

But beds are... beds!

Decoration (5 silvercoins)

* Wall decoration
o 15 boards of apple trees, 1 axe, 1 shield, 5 nails
* Mirrow
o 10 logs of cherry trees, 15 nails, 50 sand

I want Mirrows!

xEleas · Post by **xEleas** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:14 pm

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Unbalanced.. yes..

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:15 pm

Kevin is to nice for that >.<
He gives half of his fortune away to friends and whatever >.<
He owns over 10 silver coins now! Yaay!

J S · Post by **J S** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:18 pm

No, not by powergaming..
Rather by buying leathers and entrails off a very, very cheap price (Ask Ella, she knows Wink) and by selling.. for instance.. leather legs for 2 silvers to "inexperienced", "easily convincable" characters.

Actually my tailoring was barely green.. I would go gather leathers once every two days, gather about .. 40-50.. and buy 150-200 from Ella.. for.. hmm.. three or four serinjah-swords Wink

So yeah.. If you're a good trader, have nice convincing skills or simply a scammer (*cough* arxxxh *cough*).. well you can easily come up with some coins.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:23 pm

Ok, I don't even get what it says on fields and what-not.
Care to clear it up a bit?

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:24 pm

One field is one tile I guess.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:29 pm

That would make it... REALLY expensive...

Street

* 20 brickstones and 10 sand per fields
* 1 hammer and 1 shovel per 10 fields

.: a 5 X 5 area will take:

3 hammers, 3 shovels, 500 brickstones and 250 sand. and thats just the floor, the walls are worse

TOo expensive IMHO

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:30 pm

*chuckles*

If i call it 'tile' anyone would start to say 'tile' is no name for something inside of a roleplaygame like Illarion. If i call it 'field' no, some people do not know what is meant.

But yes, i mean a single tile to where you can move your char or make a campfire.

Brickstones will be cheaper in some future by the possibility to make them youself.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:31 pm

Well, don't have a floor.
Mud floors are fun!

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:33 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:That would make it... REALLY expensive...

Street

* 20 brickstones and 10 sand per fields
* 1 hammer and 1 shovel per 10 fields
.: a 5 X 5 area will take:

3 hammers, 3 shovels, 500 brickstones and 250 sand. and thats just the floor, the walls are worse

TOo expensive IMHO

And don't forget the 100 silver aswell

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:34 pm

Skaalib Drurr wrote:
Hadrian_Abela wrote:That would make it... REALLY expensive...

Street

* 20 brickstones and 10 sand per fields
* 1 hammer and 1 shovel per 10 fields
.: a 5 X 5 area will take:

3 hammers, 3 shovels, 500 brickstones and 250 sand. and thats just the floor, the walls are worse

TOo expensive IMHO
And don't forget the 100 silver aswell

I agree. 'Spensive.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:35 pm

Oopsy, forgot that... 50 silver for ground...

hmm, i'll work out the total for a square 5X5 with a door in it... when i have tyme

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:43 pm

pig buisness : how many pigs do we need for a spawn point?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:50 pm

Its also unbalanced.

10 squares of any tile, cost you as much as a pig...

10 squares for putting that tile, PLUS the stuff you're goign to make the tile from...

It needs to be made cheaper and more balanced IMHO...

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:54 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:Oopsy, forgot that... 50 silver for ground...

hmm, i'll work out the total for a square 5X5 with a door in it... when i have tyme

Oops, my maths is not that good obviously. It's not 100, it's 50.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:59 pm

The prices are fine.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:00 pm

OK, have a lot to do and decided to work this out to procrastonate a tad.

Lets say a person wants to build a house 5X5 squares, within the boundaries of town, and put a wall around it, with one door... let us sum up his costs

The floor:

50 Silver Coins
Lets assume he uses parquet: 125 naldor logs
75 apple tree boards
250 nails
3 saws 3 hammers
-
The roof:

50 silver coins
Let him use the tiled roof

360 naldor logs
720 boards of conifer
360 nails
4 hammers 4 saws
-
The wall:
48 Silver coins
24 hammers

960 Brickstones
240 sand
24 buckets of water
=
A door

2 silver coins 1 hammer

20 naldor logs
10 nails
1 saw

=

Adding them up...

Silver Coins: 150
Naldor logs: 505
Nails: 620
Apple Tree Boards: 75
Conifer Boards: 720
Saws: 8
Hammers: 8
Buckers: 24
Brickstones: 960

There, I dont think I left anything out...

THAT is the cost of a 5X5 room with a wall around it and a door....

EXPENSIVE

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:01 pm

you need money but it isnt excessive.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:02 pm

Garett Gwenour wrote:you need money but it isnt excessive.

The above was for a 5X5 room... with NOTHING in it...

Elizas shop would cost a few thousand for example....

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:03 pm

i think when you pay the silver that is all you need to do, or you collect the items.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:03 pm

Woot now Caelum shall rise from the dirt!

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:04 pm

Your a bunch of noobs that dont have a guild thread, you still need to wait 3 months real life before you can do anything

Just conform with greenbriar already.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:05 pm

Garett Gwenour wrote:i think when you pay the silver that is all you need to do, or you collect the items.

I agree with this entirely.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:06 pm

Let me just disprove you guys...

Tools (15 silvercoins)

* Millstone
o 100 brickstones, 20 sand, 2 long wooden stacks, 1 hammer
* Smoking oven
o 100 brickstones, 20 sand, 1 hammer

The long wooden stack is redundant then?

They aren't the same price....