Prostitution in Trollsbane

Mark Strongarm · Post by **Mark Strongarm** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:25 am

There is a prostitute trying to earn a living in Trollsbane... what does everyone think about this. I would like it made illegal, it's not nice for the youngsters in Gobiath to have harlots offering themselves infront of the shop. Have them make a whorehouse if illegality is too harsh.

Mark Strongarm.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:47 am

while your intentions are good Mister Strongarm, if your worried about our youngsters then it would have been more prudent to discuss this matter in private with someone in charge rather then, announce it so...tastelessly upon the walls. while i can understand why you think, the public should be aware of the situation. we who are adults would easily have understood any need for keeping this matter quietly taken care of. you've drawn your attention though.

to a matter we all know exists and a matter that most have no problem with so long as it exists QUIETLY outside the general public eye. the guard of trollsbane is probably not so innept as to not be able to move a single woman form the shop front without the need for a crier to draw everyones attention to a single point. do keep this in mind in the future.

Athian

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:49 am

I was never aware it was illegal to do such acts on Gobiath?

Stephen Rothman

Mark Strongarm · Post by **Mark Strongarm** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:53 am

its not illegal, but I still think it should be, and want to see what the majority think. I, as I think you know Stephen, respect you opinion a great deal. But I feel very strongly about this and was upset to see you in opposed belief. My appologies if this is improper,
Mark Strongarm.

((the note is pinned up high out of reach of children.))

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:54 am

I don't believe it has ever been. however it was of such vast import and threat to the isle that it need be brought up immediatly amongst the people of this land.

Sarcastically
Athian

J S · Post by **J S** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:02 am

I have no problem with it.

~ Johnny Lant

The writer of the note walks off giggling

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:05 am

I once met a fine looking lass in TB, who told me, she would do "it" cheaper, than the others.

after a simple "no, thanks" from me, she excused herself for having molested me, and went her ways.

you know, what i liked about that situation? - I had a choice to accept or not.

so prostitution to me does not seem so bad as robbers or killers.

and me, allways in favour of the crafters and and peacefull people, why should i be against the oldest female profession?

tjalf

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Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:07 am

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J S · Post by **J S** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:07 am

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Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:23 am

if i think twice, i think, i see where the problem is.
we are not religous enough here on this island.

if we had a temple or two, those girls could serve as temple priestesses, like it is the old tradition in many lands.

well, they needed a little help and teaching, to learn the difference between religious services and commercial work. but i am positive, that there would be enough volunteers.

tjalf

Mark Strongarm · Post by **Mark Strongarm** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:28 am

I can only immagine Brer would bring it to public decision, I see no reason to keep it in the closet, if it is acceptable then there is no harm in my post , except perhaps my embarassment. If it is not, lets hear it, better to stop a problem before it starts. I don't enjoy the idea of walking through trollsbane having such offers being made. If the consensus 'is' that it is ok quietly and outside the public eye, should there be rules and laws regarding it? How else do you propose it is enforced? If I had children I would not want to tell them 'this path is not ok for you' when society has deemed it appropriate in certain conditions. I take pride in a honest and open society living by the will of the majority.

Mark Strongarm

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:23 am

Hmm....Interesting....

The issue I believe is a moral one. For what is the difference between this and warriors 'prostituting' themselves as mercenaries, or Bards 'prostituting' themselves for songs. They are the same economically.

Companionship as 'prostitution', whether male or female, is the oldest profession, and much needed. Yes, needed. When 'courting' the opposite sex is difficult at best, and marriages are rare, and families are rarer still, what can you expect? I am personally surprised it is not more common than this single person.

If potential customers are given free will to accept or deny, their welfare is not threatened, and the 'transaction' is conducted in a private location such as the Inn (resulting in more room rentals there), I see nothing wrong with it.

As long as there is need for coin, I believe people are always going to find creative ways to earn it. These issues will always arise in which individual morality is challenged. In most cultures (Orcs, Fairies, Elves, Barbarians, Halfling, etc.), children accept 'companionship' as a part of life, a natural process and need. It is part of Nature's design. It is only 'civilization' and 'religion' that tends to view it as 'dirty' and unnatural. I see no reason to shield it from their view, that is a choice for parents.

It sounds like this woman, because of her 'discretion' should be a role-model for this profession, not condemned for it.

~Dusty Bottoms, a 'confirmed' bachelor~

Agrona · Post by **Agrona** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:54 am

Deputy,

If a whorehouse is what you wish then a whorehouse is what you will get. This just means I will have to work even harder to come up with the needed coin to do so.

Victoria

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:53 pm

Trollsbane has always been full with those kinds of woman ever since I returned, only now one actualy ask for coins wich is in my eyes better than those who simply do it to do it, without any added feelings. Everyone needs coins if they want to live a decent life, and most will do what ever it takes.

And if anyone tends to blame 'us youngsters' for these things, remember well that alot have hardly any knowing about such things and simply try, not seeing the bad since noone ever told them so, and noone ever explained anything wether they asked or not. I got lucky, but not everyone can.

It is a way to make money, not the most approved way but it is a way.
Sure, 'us youngsters' may be affected by it but I honestly do not think that is the worst wich could happen. I would rather see that happen then the same child being killed. Take care of the more essential things first, then sort this out.
I'd rather see a prostitute than a bandit or murder.

Signed:
Kevin Lightdot

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:47 pm

Trollsbane won't be prosecuting any ladies (or men perhaps) that engage in this activity.

F

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:14 pm

Victoria,

I do not wish anyone to be deprived of a living if it doesn't hurt others. I feel strongly that your 'profession' is needed amongst the men here. Who knows, it may alleviate all this aggression and violence? Contact a builder, get a quote, and I'll provide all the materials you will need. In the mean time, if it is alright with the owners, we could rent a room at the Inn, longterm for you, until its built. I don't wish to be a manager or nothing, so we can call it a loan if you like, payable whenever, no interest.

What do you think?
~Dusty Bottoms~

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:41 pm

my friend dusty,

you are one clever halfling, you are!

so, if you might be seen in the future, entering or leaving a certain house, you can allways say, you just went to collect a payment...

in adoration,
yours,tjalf

hmmm... between the swamp and the western gate should be room enough for a cozy little dollhouse.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:02 pm

Prostitution is dishonorable and unworthy. Women selling their bodys for money should be ashamed of sinking so low to do such shamefull work. I see no legitimation reason for such immorality, and i officiel forbid that named woman and every other one like her to enter the Seahorse Inn and using it for their dirty and shamefull work. Shall they be catched doing anything immoral on Seahorse land I will consider harsh punishments.

Any requests for a room in the Seahorse Inn are declined. I suggest her to visit a priest and ask for redeem from her sins.

I also demand an apologize by Dusty Bottoms for even concidering the possibility that I would allow a whore to do her dirty work in the Seahorse Inn.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
Archmistress of Gobaith
Representativ owner of the Seahorse Inn

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:04 pm

I was not aware there was current ownership laws in Trolls Bane at this time, perhaps now is a good time to establish them?

Stephen Rothman

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:05 pm

I was not aware that you have any right to raise your voice and write your opinion about any official matter. I suggest you better stay quiet before we may concider that your time in the jail wasn't long enough.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:06 pm

That's a nice difference of jobs there. Steward and archmistress.

~Unsigned~

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:07 pm

I do the work of a steward for my fiance as long as he is on his journeys. It is our both business so I look over it until he returns. Maybe in the new language caretaker will fit more.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~

D.C. · Post by **D.C.** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:08 pm

Though I am not overly excited about this new woman, I would rather not condemn her. Simply it is she will do as she wishes, some in the sirani following do similar works and they are not condemned. I would rather this be done within the walls of Trolls Bane in a secluded area, where I can ensure her "customers" are not taking too much, then her out alone with a man, vulnerable.

Those are my words on the topic,

In your service,
Phillippe Charboneau, Paladin on Elara
Captain of the Town Guard

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:11 pm

YOU have a fiancee?

That's heartily surprising.

~Unsigned~

Jeanette · Post by **Jeanette** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:13 pm

While I can not say I would ever do it myself, I do not oppose of the idea. Miss Samantha, I don't understand how you can have a problem with a woman asking payment for something the tramps in town give out for free. Especially if men are willing to pay for it. Everyone has to make a living and you are in no position to pass judgement on anyone's choice of work. I'm sure the woman in question cares nothing for what you may think of her and nothing for your advice on what you think her sins are. To forbid her to perform her practice in the Seahorse was more than enough from you, because just as you boast your opinion she doesn't have to lower herself to your level to read it.

Jeanette

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:19 pm

She is already far under my and any womans level when she sells her body to others. She should be ashamed of doing something like that and she should be also ashamed for perverting with that something that intimate and privat between two peoples. Something that should ever be special and used more honorfull, also something that should be handled with more respect and care. And not sold for a few coppers on the street.

And of course the tramps doing it for free are not any better. It is simply shamefull and immoral. A pity that women lower themself for something like that.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~

Nerian Finera · Post by **Nerian Finera** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:22 pm

Everyone has to follow his own ideals. However I want to say, that it is not a pure business, to do something like this. No one should judge her by it, though.
And Lady Meryadeles: I would beg you to first find a solution, before judging about people's lifes.
Prostitution has nothing to do with honour by the way, but with love. The only god that might be offended, is Sirani, who has to see the beauty of her children sold to those, who might abuse it.

Nerian Finera

Farfara · Post by **Farfara** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:37 pm

It is a matter of supply and demand; prostitutes can supply something that is in high demand. Morality is purely subjective, and should not have even entered the equation. If you do not approve of such activites, that is well within your perogative. However, do not attempt to shove your personal morality down the throats of others. All that accomlishes is dividing the community over what is nothing more than a technicality; whether or not a woman should sell sex. If she wishes to give it away without recompense, this discussion would never have started in the first place. The fact that it can be made a business has, for some reason, outraged many people, much to my amazement. There is also one other side of the issue to consider; the customers. For whatever reason, there are plenty of men willing to pay for sex. If they have no problem with how they choose to spend their money, what business is it of yours? As long as no one is being harmed, there should be nothing to say.

Auric Stoneface

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:45 pm

I think the people who actually spend the money are quite sad. If you're that desperate for sex; get a girlfriend. Maybe that way you could stop your lust and maybe develop a good relationship. Just my opinion.

Sir William Elderberry,
Lord of Caelum

Farfara · Post by **Farfara** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:51 pm

Sometimes it is indeed the only option for some men, which is quite sad if unavoidable. However, some simply have no desire for a relationship, and would rather simply pay someone to do to them what others may marry to get.

Auric Stoneface