- Monster balancing -

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:13 pm

There was a white skeleton in my jail cell once too, that didn't even attack!

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:13 pm

There was a white skeleton in my jail cell once too, that didn't even attack!

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:58 pm

erm.. Dravian?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:59 pm

Dravian is red

Retlak is white

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:00 pm

Dravian is white dude.. retlak is blue

EDIT: "Dravian, white skeleton lich - Use of offensive magic in town, helping to free a prisoner, being part of the Bjolmur temple. " quote from RPG section

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:02 pm

It was an NPC, this I am sure of.

Ku 'Agor · Post by **Ku 'Agor** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:09 pm

Most likely a necromancing spell. There are such things as nonagressive skeletons.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:49 am

Siltaris wrote:
Athian wrote:... but my character using Wrestling was parried every 90% of the time when he had a match with Siltaris.
Don't know which skills your char has, but Sil had a big shield and is really good at parry. I would wonder if she would not parry your cute little punches

try it without the shield next time. you might be surprised how cute a couple slugs to the head might be

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:15 pm

Topic is monster balancing. Please stick to that topic. There is also an internal dicussion going on that could use some input.

Yandran · Post by **Yandran** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:31 pm

Als es noch zwei Mumien in den Ruinen gab ging es so gerade für einen Anfänger , jetzt mit 6 oder mehr ist es Selbstmord dort runter zugehen , auch die Fliegen sind um einiges zu stark geworden und mein neuer Char ist wirklich kein Weichei . Andere Monster hab ich gar nicht erst versucht . Auch ist es so gut wie unmöglich von den Monstern wegzukommen und es dauert ewig nach einem Kampf bis man die Sachen die es so zum aufheben gibt nehmen zu können .

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:43 pm

Yandran Younger wrote:Auch ist es so gut wie unmöglich von den Monstern wegzukommen und es dauert ewig nach einem Kampf bis man die Sachen die es so zum aufheben gibt nehmen zu können .

Weglaufen ist schon möglich, aber nur wenn man nicht schon im Kampf war. Ansonsten kann es haarig werden. Ich plädiere für einen Knopf zum Beenden des Kampfmodus, da es durch die Verzögerungen ziemlich nervig ist, per Maus aus dem Modus zu kommen, um sich vernünftig bewegen zu können!
Und dieses Lag beim Looten (nicht im Kampfmodus!) ist mir in den letzten Tagen auch aufgefallen (hatte es da aber auf die vielen Spieler geschoben).

Yandran · Post by **Yandran** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:47 pm

Was noch wäre ist der Punkt das sich die Monster sobald man zuschlägt , obwohl sie genau in die andere Richtung gehen im gleichen Moment umdrehen und einen ansehen , viel mit Taktik üben ist da nicht mehr .

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:08 pm

the demon skeletions in the south area of skeletion forest seem a bit weaker then the ones in the crypts, i know there probably supposed to be (at least on average), i'm not sure what type of demon skeletion they are, (since there so many) but they could be made a tiny bit stronger. they don't do to much damage as compared to the time to take to defeat them.

Gilthas · Post by **Gilthas** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:21 pm

Or you could just be damned happy that they are easy to beat! lol who complains that something is too easy?

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:23 pm

shut your face

no one wants to do something if there no challange involved, or reward to gain.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:25 pm

Gilthas wrote:Or you could just be damned happy that they are easy to beat! lol who complains that something is too easy?

Those who care about the development of a good game? No challenge = no fun. No pain, no gain. Too easy equals lame.

Concerning flies: This is not fly-related, it is wrestling related. All monsters who attack with wrestling do much more damage than they'd do with weapons. Does this hold for pvp-fights, too?

Gilthas · Post by **Gilthas** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:31 pm

Well if the Daemon skeletons in the woods are not tough enough for you go somewhere else where they are. Other people need to start fighting those skeletons somewhere otherwise how can weaker people get better!

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:31 pm

you'd have to ask someone with equal skill in wrestling and another combat skill. overall, wrestling can be pretty strong, but as i noted P2P combat is a completely different story. from my experience Wrestling works best in a PvsNPC sense, but in PvsP it seems where it should be.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:34 pm

Gilthas wrote:Well if the Daemon skeletons in the woods are not tough enough for you go somewhere else where they are. Other people need to start fighting those skeletons somewhere otherwise how can weaker people get better!

Good point here. Demon skeletons are NOT ment to be monsters for beginners. In fact, they are ment to be one of the strongest monsters of them all. The loot one can get is very, very good stuff. This is one of the main points of this discussion: Which monsters are too weak / too strong? I fought some demon skeletons recently and they are quite strong but not invincible.

I have written a list that shows the staging of monsters from "total easy n00b victims" to "uber bad mass murdering butchers" like I would set them. Maybe, if the internal discussion is over, I can will make it public.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:39 pm

might also make note, that there are several varieties of the same monster. a demon skeletions at point A might be completely different then a demon skeletion at point B. i wasn't speakingof all of them.

one of my characters fought with a demon skeletion in the skeletion with his mace and shield, the blows did good damage but they were to slow and far between, it dropped alot faster then i thought it would.