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Post by Fooser »

Nitram wrote:Don't compare this.

I made the fights itself longer.

You make lesser damage but your enemy too.
Havent tried yet, but I like the concept. Fooser is decent at fighting, and some monsters hit for so much, with armor and everything
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

longer fights? :( :?
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Post by Dom Bompatill Dent Ings »

I hope they hit less because me being a gnome means After fighting mummies for 2 minutes i get OWNED
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Post by Karl Salameh »

Nitram, for the ones who lost their weapons, what do we do?
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Post by Theon »

Isn't it less realistic that fights are longer?
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

INDEED.. how long should it take killing a pig?
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Post by Nitram »

Those who lost something, contact me somehow. PN, messanger or !gm
Then you get your tomatos back ;D

I think lesser damage is better, because you have a chance to reakt on the strength of your enemy.

If you find a monster and it kills you with 2 hits in 1 second, you will feel really pissed.

Also its good if you try to duel or train. PvP Fights were pretty dangerouse too. Now they should be better possible.

I have to add that the damage on weapons and armor was lowered too.

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Die die ihre Ausrüstung verloren haben, melden sich mal bei mir per PN, Messanger oder !gm. Dann bekommt ihr eure Tomaten zurück ;)

Ich denke weniger Schaden ist insofern besser, das man mehr Zeit hat um auf eine Gegner zu reagieren.

Wenn du von einem Gegner mit 2 Schlägen in einer Sekunde gekillt wirst, wird das keinen erfreuen.

Außerdem wird das besser fürs Duellieren und PvP sein. Das ist jetzt nicht mehr immer potentiel tödlich ;)

Außerdem sollte ich sagen, das ich den Schaden an Waffen und Rüstungen verringert habe.

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Post by Fooser »

Nitram! I lost 10 fire axes and 7 double axes! If you could hook me up ASAP, that'd be great.
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Post by Theon »

I suppose. Good that weapons and armour doesn't break so easily I suppose. But players should just play a safer role than a fighter if they don't want the risk. It's like when thieves get imprisoned and complain, if you play a thief you should accept they might get caught.
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Post by Gildon »

Cawdor, I really would wish someone would set a date when Rankor is released >_>
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Fooser wrote:Nitram! I lost 10 fire axes and 7 double axes! If you could hook me up ASAP, that'd be great.
I return only tomatos to you ;)
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Post by Miklorius »

Mmh, I need tenthousands of hits for a pig. Seems a bit too much...
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Post by Sal Larsen »

Nitram,
I got caught in the tomato incident and was killed by some zombies very quickly. I don't mind my axe turning into a tomato, but since the incident I seem to have lost the use of my right arm. As a result I can only use one handed weapons, and have you ever tried to make clothes with only one hand? Help!
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Post by Daidalos »

Hmm I don't know. My characters seem to be unable to hit anything with turquoise slashing skill.
Sorry if it's intended. >_>
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

fixed
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Post by Garett Gwenour »

I don't know if I am right or not, but I just fought a zombee that was using a concussion weapon. My character has skills that are ample and should have dodged or parry once.. Well never, I got hit every time by this concussion weapon. So check out and see if concussion weapons are very strong now, overly strong.
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Post by Retlak »

My Report: Retlak against 6 mummies, he parries every single hit with a shield and mace (nearly max parry) When he does get hit it does hardly any damage from swords i find, concusison not tested yet) also skeletons the same.

Future reports upcoming.

Note: i am not even wearing armour! jsut a shield and mace.
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Post by Alytys Lamar »

I have the feeling she beats faster now, she needs 15/16 blows for a mummy (before 7/8 blows)
and she gets more hits, too
But she wears an light hunting armor, maybe thats the reason.
She got almost no hits before with the same armor.
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Post by Ku 'Agor »

I hate it.
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

i hate it too.. before it took me 4 hits maximum to kill a pig.. now i kill it in 35 :cry:
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Post by Dónal Mason »

It should NOT take forever to kill a lousy pig. Now it's becoming more and more a game of waiting. Want to kill that mummy? Ok, just ctrl click it, go and make a cup of tea, clean your room, have a bath and when you come back, it'll be halfway dead!
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Post by Retlak »

I still love it, i kill everything in few hits and parry a hell of alot, take almost 0 damage per being hit with swords (i am wearing no armour)

You can tell why i love it :wink:
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Post by Ku 'Agor »

Retlak wrote:I still love it, i kill everything in few hits and parry a hell of alot, take almost 0 damage per being hit with swords (i am wearing no armour)

You can tell why i love it :wink:
Because you rank 99x better then all of us strugglers who werent lucky enough to figure out tactics training and now that the game depends on it we cant train it because it is too hard?

That sounds bout right there ku!
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Post by Retlak »

my tactics skill is only dark green, you will not need alot of it to become good, training it is easy enough.
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Post by Nitram »

I will start banning everyone who starts moaning about it without a useful content.

If you think that the damaged should be raised, that just say it.

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Post by Keikan Hiru »

But don't say:
"I want damage to be raised because I can't kill pigs."

We can tweak friendly animals seperatly.
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Post by Gort Greegog »

I don't have any idea how long battles may take now but befor this updat I could fight quite a few players with Gort and have over a 5 minute battle with no potions.
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

Please don't get mad at me for saying this, but an undo would be a very good thing. I really don't like this at all.. Not because i can't even defeat a swarm of flies or because it takes me loads of time to kill a pig, but because it just takes all the fun away... It just makes me feel like a boy with a toothpick..
I know you have worked for this Nitram, but this is my opinion.. Sorry :?
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Post by Arameh »

The system still needs a lot of balancement, and it was mainly meant so that bug, unbalancements and such can be fixed a lot more quickly. OF COURSE its not perfect yet, did Illarion ever had a system (magic fighting crafting) that was perfect right away? No, it always took time to get balanced, for the bug removed and such. It has been implemented TODAY and already many things have been fixed, just stay patient and wait more eh? Overall attack strenght can be changed very easily I think, stop telling to 'Undo' just because your character is weak for a day, cause it really makes you look dumb.
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

sorry.. don't jump on my head now.. i just said how i felt. i'll just delete m post okay?
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