The elven teacher

nmaguire · Post by **nmaguire** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:46 pm

Never mind. Sorted

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:54 pm

Whats your rp explanation that your char wants to learn the elven language from him?

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:16 pm

Sorry for bringing this up again, but NPC teachers teaching languages must be put to bounds in one way or another. It is just outrageous that the entire fucking world knows elvish.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:18 pm

Disable learning languages / Charwipe ftw.

Post by **Nitram** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:07 pm

Misjbar wrote:Sorry for bringing this up again, but NPC teachers teaching languages must be put to bounds in one way or another. It is just outrageous that the entire fucking world knows elvish.

Feel free to propose a better way.

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:15 pm

Well, how about getting rid of the elvish teacher for starters. I'm sure the only reason for his existance was so people could utilize the elvish merchant on Vanima? With the Human merchant there as well, that problem was solved long ago. There's no need for the teacher anymore. I think he's occasionally bugged anyway.

Why not make 'Language' a teaching 'Rune(Skill)' to be given IG, like you all do for Magic? I think only 'intelligent (15+)' elves should be the only ones with the ability to teach others elvish.

If that is established, then the other races could easily teach their languages too, as long as they are 'intelligent (15+)' enough. Problem solved.

Dom Bompatill Dent Ings · Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:59 pm

I agree wit Dusty because people want to learn languages but it is unfair if there is only an elven teacher

Farfara · Post by **Farfara** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:52 am

Um, where IS the elvish teacher, anyway? I didn't even know there was one until this thread...

Ku 'Agor · Post by **Ku 'Agor** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:54 am

Don't quote be on this, but I think it's a human up in the northern woods surrounded by animals.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:25 am

and bandits, and he's an elf (imagine that)

I don't like it too much either. my vote is simple: take him out or, make other teachers.

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:13 am

Taking him out would be not fair at the moment.

Many Characters learned the elven language allready and have this language. New characters can't learn this language now.

So IF we take this teacher npc out, we would have to remove the "elf language" skill from all non-elf characters.

Nitram

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:24 am

I think its more fair to take this NPC out right now.
Its very unfair to every elf character that everybody and thier dogs are able to learn thier language but nobody is able to learn human, ork or dwarf language.

I suggest one of the following methods, ordered by difficultness:

1. Remove this NPC. (Already learned skills remain.)

2. Add NPCs for every language.

3. Teachers only appear from time to time at a set of possible places.
One day you meet the elf teacher in the woods and vanishes after some days, another day the teacher for human langauge appears at the docks.

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:28 am

Keikan Hiru wrote:3. Teachers only appear from time to time at a set of possible places.
One day you meet the elf teacher in the woods and vanishes after some days, another day the teacher for human langauge appears at the docks.

Thats a little difficult. Imagin if you find such a teacher. The teacher tells you: Get this, this and that. You get everything, return to the place and the teacher is away.

Thats not really funny ;D

Nitram

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:30 am

If its well know that teachers travel from time to time, vanishing for a period of time and/or reapearing at a different position, I think it would add a little more spice to the "item-grind" of this quest.

However this idea would not be my first pick to solve this problem, it just struck me when thinking about this issue.

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:34 am

Elven Language teacher is disabled now.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:03 am

*dances in eternal happiness* No longer shall human/orcish/halflers/lizardic/dwarven tongue desecrate our language. *elves rejoice in the background*

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:01 pm

Yeah!!!! Thanks Nitram. It really was the best way to be fair and preserve the Noble Elven language from abuse, until all the languages could be equally taught.

Now an alternative system can be created in such a way to be fair, make sense, and not easy to get.

We could try an NPC for each language?
or a book in the Library?
or given by players with 15+ Int. just as Magic Runes are?

However it is established, I'm sure it'll be better than whay we had. Thanks Nitram!

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:59 pm

If i find some time i may write new teacher npcs.

But currently i have other problem. Flying tomatos and stuff...

Nitram

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:36 am

We know, and if there's anything we can do to help, just ask.
Thanks!