Proposal: OOC Rules for Ingame Wars

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:05 pm

Most illarion players take ingame happenings too personal sometimes. Which causes OOC trouble.
Too few keep in mind that everything happening IN CHARACTER is nothing against the person behind the screen. When, for example, a character spits on the floor in front of the feet of another character, this should never be a reason to feel angry for the PLAYER.
Too many players focus more on wanting to "win" than on actually playing their role well.

Actually, i am pretty convinced that such rules will not work because of the immaturity of not only a few, but a few more players. We need a software solution for such things. One which should not be too hard - that would reduce game fun alot - but which must at least work.

Caldrion Sternenglanz · Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:10 pm

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:28 pm

damien,

i think the basic problem is, a couple of players make their chars behave like members of streetgangs.

real streetgangs often enough kill off a member of another gang, they can get at unprotected.

similar do the two politikal main factions ingame.

but there is a difference, in the streets, there are no comebacks....

so ingame you just have to limit the comebacks.

make a killed char unplayable for four RL-days, and you will notice a whole bunch of very cautious chars...

than death wouldn't even have to cost skills.

korm

Caldrion Sternenglanz · Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:35 pm

that would be great! If you were killed by a player you must wait for a few hours or a few days. could this be possible?

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:38 pm

Well no at first glance that is a good proposal. But then, there is no roleplay involved after you kill that character, no healing at the cross, no wounds etc. I do not fancy that proposal.
I still believe some sort of perma death system needs t obe establish so people have character that don't just run their mouths constantly. Legitimate fear for the character's survival needs to be established, not just their skill and belongings.

Samantha Meryadeles · Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:40 pm

Says mister revival and "i lead my town even after i got beaten up"?

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:05 am

maybe a penality for running back out into battle. for example. for a set amount of time after a battle if your character dies again. he loses X more amount of skill then usual. of course there are factors in this purposal to remember

now that monsters can't touch the cross area you will not be re-killed my monsters, so that wouldn't be an issue.

it could also be made that living characters. (those that still have hp) can't actually step within a certain area of the cross. (and do something about target loccking in that area to avoid arrows). which would avoid player re-kills.

even an injured character can stumble his or her way off of the cross to be carried by comrades need me. or be tossed a potion to get there strenght back so it wouldn't bother rp to much.

this way coming back after battles can be doubly punished. and you don't have to worry about mass pkings during the duration of your double loss time.

just an idea.

Meriel Pelith · Post by **Meriel Pelith** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:14 am

My proposal :

After you die your skills/attributes go down. And it will need up to 1 hour (but not more than 4 or 5) ingame time til they change back to normal.

That keeps the char from running back into fight. And it keeps the player from logging out and waiting til the chars stats are back to normal.

People would indeed need to play how his char is weak.

Gildon · Post by **Gildon** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:19 am

I agree with PO Meriel, I never thought of that.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:23 am

i somewhat like the idea but it doesn't stop the crazies from re-killing while ytour weakened.

Gildon · Post by **Gildon** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:24 am

...So what!?

Meriel Pelith · Post by **Meriel Pelith** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:25 am

Hm. We have people ingame who re-kill?

Apart from some really rare occasions I never noticed it. I don't think that it would turn out in re-killing.

Gildon · Post by **Gildon** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:26 am

Oooh re-killing! No, no... I thought that breaks OOC rules?

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:28 am

in a war situation it may not be the same person that re-kills you, but a member of his group that didn't know you died even. also battles might take place only an hour from last last possibly even less. and when an enemy runs through and spots you, he's not going to ask you if you've died once today, he's gonna smack your arse back to the cross before you can say stop.

Samantha Meryadeles · Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:29 am

And his 2. life is gone @ Stephen Rothman

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:33 am

Well you did use a bug to kill him, so maybe you automatically get temp banned?

Samantha Meryadeles · Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:34 am

A bug? I used a spell. Could have done it with any other too

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:36 am

But you abused a bug, Patric.

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:41 am

this:

there is no roleplay involved after you kill that character, no healing at the cross, no wounds etc.

gave me an idea.

there could be lovely burials RP-ed.
the graphics for coffins exist.

grinning,korm

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:02 am

Suddenly player bitch ooc if thier characters lost a life or not.
Strange, didn't see that one coming.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:05 am

Eh, it was over a spell that was known as a bug, happened before and the PO told me ooc it wasnt glitched and he did it again and now I found out it is infact glitched and he lied to me about it. So yes, when someone lies and abusing a bug to get something accomplished ingame, I begin to bitch

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:05 am

I haven't lied...you said a single spell killed you, i said no two...that was it about. nothing else. and it were two spells

Meriel Pelith · Post by **Meriel Pelith** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:06 am

Wasn't it his third life actually?

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:10 am

Ohmigod !
Someone quickly claim Silverbrand !

Meriel Pelith · Post by **Meriel Pelith** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:11 am

Not yet. He has 2 lifes left. He is a leader

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