Government/Kingship ideas

Talith · Post by **Talith** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 12:21 am

I was wondering if it would be hard for us to create a government. We could create a democracy, have town meetings, and serve the king/queen. What do you guys think? Would it be too hard, or too complicated, what do you guys think?

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:45 am

Has been proposed before. Perhaps when most of the players are "civilized" a government will be possible.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 4:18 am

It's possible, but for now the short answer from me is yes it's too hard.

Talith · Post by **Talith** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 4:53 am

alright, too bad, i think it would be cool, to usher Illarion into a new era, but it would be pretty hard. Oh well, maybe later we could do something like that.

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 7:29 am

A "government" is possible now. A government is an RP thing.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 9:04 am

You could very well go about creating a government. It would be like a large guild. In the future the government could purchase a town, and they would rule that specific collection of buildings.

Caranthir the great · Sun Dec 01, 2002 11:07 am

*cough* Dwarftown *cough*

Sansonic · Post by **Sansonic** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 1:21 pm

LOL, dwarftown

How about - Sansonicville? Santropolis? Sansonic? Sansonic-al-a-Ville?
ummmmmm, SanSanSanSanSan?

All good ideas

The whole government thing has been discussed waaaaaaaaay back when, and we decided there would be too much spite hassle and assassination ;P lets face it, if you have a player weaker than you who bosses around what you do or says and you see him strolling along a dark bypass all alone, what would YOU do???

Its pretty clear to everyone

San

Talith · Post by **Talith** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 7:38 pm

thats why we create a democracy, plus just like with the government that we have in the U.S., there are bodyguards, and security to make sure that nothing like that happens. Plus, the King shouldn't boss everyone around, he has people to do that for him. But whatever you guys decide, it all depends on you!

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 7:41 pm

Plus, the King shouldn't boss everyone around

Isn't that what kings are made for, to boss people around?

Talith · Post by **Talith** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 7:44 pm

well, if they want to... DOnt they usually have other people do the bossing around?

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 8:16 pm

But the king, bosses those who he wants to boss other people around.

Drogla · Post by **Drogla** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 9:01 pm

we are NOT a monarchy. kings and such....at the MOST lets get a preseint and elect. so such a thing. they propose a law, it is voted on by everyone....dont think a goverment is needed overly much though...

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 9:05 pm

Who is 'we'?

Drogla · Post by **Drogla** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 9:09 pm

everyone who plays illarion. the people of the comunity.

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 9:17 pm

The dwarftown will most likely be a kindom, if Tialdin wants the title.

ElMahok · Post by **ElMahok** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 11:52 pm

I don't like that democrazy-thing!
But on the other hand, I don't like that monarchy-thing, either!

We have a good working anarchy, why change it?

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 12:59 am

If you think you can make a government, then go do it.

Like I said, it's too hard right now. If you don't believe me, take your best shot and prove me wrong.

Caranthir the great · Mon Dec 02, 2002 11:43 am

Well, the thing preventing anyone from forming a working government, is that no-one can really claim the land of Troll's bane. IT belongs no-one and everybody. You don't really have any reason why YOU should rule.
This applies to both Monarchy and Democracy.

They player-made cities and lands will remove this problem, 'since we built this, we are allowed to decide how we rule'.

The one of thousand souls · Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:14 pm

1.First we will need a guild that will patrol the city guarding it and solving crimes
2.Second some bodyguards for the king because there is surly going to be one or two angry citzeins that will try to do a assasination plan on the king
3.Tird who will be the king and who will take the first stand

P.S sorry for my English

Mishrack · Post by **Mishrack** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 3:22 pm

...
The one of thousand souls, do you not think that having a king should be something all of Trollsbane would have to decide on?

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 6:51 pm

I agree with mishrack.
Lets not jump out of the cliff yet, shall we?

The one of thousand souls · Mon Dec 02, 2002 7:12 pm

Well we enyway need some guys protecting the city

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 7:22 pm

If a bunch of people get together and declare a king, how could you stop them? It may not be YOUR king though...

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 8:10 pm

I think majority would ignore them, unless they would be powerful enough to either bribe or kick most on their side.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:11 pm

It depends who that "bunch" of people are. There was a time when certain representitives of our population could have easily selected a governor or government, and most of the people would eventually follow. Unfortunately, that time is no longer existant.

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:18 pm

The most new players and chars would be ignore a general king for all. Or they would be against him.. Its sad

So, the drawftown project is the best way and has the best chances... a kingdom/gouverment for a limited number of people...
It`s the same like the ally between the Order Grey Light and the Knights of the Grey Rose...

Drogla · Post by **Drogla** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 12:50 am

goverment isnt needed more than what we have...
if anything, lets jsut eledct 5 or 6 people to make the major decistions. think this was said, not sure. dont remember what it is called either. anyways, an election should be taken in the forums. someone makes a thread witha pole. the top 5 people weill run Troles-Bane...not as insane power freaks though...

Talith · Post by **Talith** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 5:54 am

ya, Drogla's idea makes sense, why not have an elected official (most likely female

, cause people respect them a lot) that everybody likes, such as people like Korwin, or Helios, or Reda, etc. A lot of people I know respect these, and probably wouldn't mind having them rule over them.

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:17 am

Why this sudden urge of kingship?
There was the council of seven, but it was shot down..
IF you remember that..