Not that fair..

TheRipper · Post by **TheRipper** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:00 am

I was rp'ing with some guy named bloodhound and we were going to have an rp battle over baurus and who gets him, me to kill him or him to save him.. and this guy jsut dashes up and slits my throat.. Now ive lsot this character that i had future plans for... please can you be a little less... like... slity with the thrat, maybe cut me up somehwere non fatal? thanks.

Dain Ironfoot · Post by **Dain Ironfoot** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:01 am

Erm. Ok. I lunged foward and put it to your neck. You put your axe up and said not in time. I said either give Baurus or Death, You said Death. I sliced you. Thats fair.

TheRipper · Post by **TheRipper** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:03 am

alright i suppose that it was slightly fair... but maybe next time this happens can we maybe.. not dash straight for my neck? eh its ok i guess. it was fun while it lasted.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:12 am

LMAO. Mess with the best, die like the rest.

~Hackers

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:58 am

I was going to make a reply to this thread about bad/forced rp, but
...dammit is this seriously what Illarion is coming to?

I despair.

Enwell van Illdoran · Post by **Enwell van Illdoran** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:42 am

*agrees with Jeremy*

Killing is always a force and forced RP is a rule break. I learned that the hard way, too (thanx samantha). But i did not emote to kill somebody, i just forced, while discribing someones past, for an RP. You can emote to hurt somebody, dash somebody, to life danger damage, but not killing. because the death of a char is always the descission of the PO of the the dieing char. And if your char makes an challanging sentence like "Baurus or death", it is quite logical, that the kidnapper, which does not want to loose his victim, will take your challenge with choosing "death". That doe not mean, the PO wants his char to die. That means, something like try me, i'll take your challenge. Got it?
Kay then apologize for that bad-ass forcing and do not do that again ayy?

@ Ripper: Just solve this Problem with a wonder. Just emote that you survived the throat cut. Because of a the fast healing of a elven mage, which doesn't no why you were hurt, but just wanted to save your life. Most elvens wants to save life... Kay? Ayy.

Lrmy · Post by **Lrmy** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:52 am

Enwell van Illdoran wrote:*agrees with Jeremy*

Killing is always a force and forced RP is a rule break. I learned that the hard way, too (thanx samantha). But i did not emote to kill somebody, i just forced, while discribing someones past, for an RP. You can emote to hurt somebody, dash somebody, to life danger damage, but not killing. because the death of a char is always the descission of the PO of the the dieing char. And if your char makes an challanging sentence like "Baurus or death", it is quite logical, that the kidnapper, which does not want to loose his victim, will take your challenge with choosing "death". That doe not mean, the PO wants his char to die. That means, something like try me, i'll take your challenge. Got it?
Kay then apologize for that bad-ass forcing and do not do that again ayy?

@ Ripper: Just solve this Problem with a wonder. Just emote that you survived the throat cut. Because of a the fast healing of a elven mage, which doesn't no why you were hurt, but just wanted to save your life. Most elvens wants to save life... Kay? Ayy.

Just a few points I'd like to atempt to make below.

1.I agree with almost all that, but was just wondering if anyone spoke OOC, like to ask if you could slit his throat?

2.I also dislike this aspect of the game because a person that would normally slit the man's throat would have to act OOC for the PO's sake.

3.Not all deaths are forced RP.

Enwell van Illdoran · Post by **Enwell van Illdoran** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:05 am

i didn't said all deaths... well, if i did i didn't meant...
i meant, every char that is killing another char, without agreement, that, after a fight, or similar situations, the other char dies, is forced RP..
relly hard force RP..

My oppinion

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:05 am

Lance Thunnigan wrote:LMAO. Mess with the best, die like the rest.

~Hackers

I'm pretty sure that's a Marine motto.

Can you two kindly take to this issue via PM'ing, rather than trying to embarrass one another on the forum? You both can come to a conclusion easier that way, and nobody loses credibility.

Alli Zelos · Post by **Alli Zelos** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:44 pm

Dain Ironfoot wrote:Erm. Ok. I lunged foward and put it to your neck. You put your axe up and said not in time. I said either give Baurus or Death, You said Death. I sliced you. Thats fair.

He has a point, when you said you'd rather take death, that gives him permission to kill you, so it isn't forced RP.If He just ran up and slit your throat, that would be forced RP, but he did give you a choice...so, choose the one that doesn't kill your character next time =)

Dain Ironfoot · Post by **Dain Ironfoot** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:45 pm

Lrmy wrote:
Enwell van Illdoran wrote:*agrees with Jeremy*

Killing is always a force and forced RP is a rule break. I learned that the hard way, too (thanx samantha). But i did not emote to kill somebody, i just forced, while discribing someones past, for an RP. You can emote to hurt somebody, dash somebody, to life danger damage, but not killing. because the death of a char is always the descission of the PO of the the dieing char. And if your char makes an challanging sentence like "Baurus or death", it is quite logical, that the kidnapper, which does not want to loose his victim, will take your challenge with choosing "death". That doe not mean, the PO wants his char to die. That means, something like try me, i'll take your challenge. Got it?
Kay then apologize for that bad-ass forcing and do not do that again ayy?

@ Ripper: Just solve this Problem with a wonder. Just emote that you survived the throat cut. Because of a the fast healing of a elven mage, which doesn't no why you were hurt, but just wanted to save your life. Most elvens wants to save life... Kay? Ayy.
Just a few points I'd like to atempt to make below.

1.I agree with almost all that, but was just wondering if anyone spoke OOC, like to ask if you could slit his throat?

2.I also dislike this aspect of the game because a person that would normally slit the man's throat would have to act OOC for the PO's sake.

3.Not all deaths are forced RP.

We had OOC yes. I asked if he wanted an RP battle , he agreed. And when I slit his throat, he could have done "#me ducks and tries to hit the man"

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:26 pm

A #me slits his throat is completely and utter forced. A #me aims a slash at the man's throat on the other hand is not. So please, describe to us the exact wording used.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:08 am

key word that always works for me: attempts

#me attepmts to slash his throat. you'll never force anyone into nothin.

TheRipper · Post by **TheRipper** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:08 am

just a quick thing i grabbed from my file.. it when something like this

Someone (): Baurus or death?
w:Someone (): (( Ok ))
Someone (): drop the axe!
Dethrill: Death.
Someone () slices his throat
Someone (): Your choice.

When i rethink it i dont know if that is a force or not.. but before it he just outa no where came and did this

Someone (): Give Baurus over.
Someone (): even though I am no friend of his.
Dethrill: Baurus is no where near now.
Someone (): where is he.
Dethrill: Give me the money and youll get him back.
Someone () lunges foward with his very good serinjah-sword at his neck

that is where the force was.

and that is where it was not fair