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- Garett Gwenour
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Two relevant issues are raised in the past week.
The Tavern: Should it be taxed as the Seahorse and Shop? (yes or no)
The Blackstone Cult: Should they be disbanded immediately or treated fairly until the trust is broken? (Yes or no; and if you have the time elaborate on your beliefs)
I thank you,
Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane
The Tavern: Should it be taxed as the Seahorse and Shop? (yes or no)
The Blackstone Cult: Should they be disbanded immediately or treated fairly until the trust is broken? (Yes or no; and if you have the time elaborate on your beliefs)
I thank you,
Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane
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- Garett Gwenour
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The last three voters are invalid, two did not leave names and Brer I believe, is apart of Varshikar. Also I believe Damien's vote is invalid as he is apart of Tol Vanima and so voting in both electing elders and the foreign policy of Trolls Bane is simply unfair. I had thought I made that clear earlier.
Also, concerning the tavern, the dwarves have decided to make it their embassy without informing myself. It is a clear way for them to avoid paying any tax, however what they have forgotten, is generally when a town decides to build an embassy on foreign soil they contact the government of that town and make a deal with it. However I am used to unorthodox and heavy handed political manuvers as of late. I still wish for the people of Trolls Bane to voice their opinions on this option, people of other lands please do not show disrespect for this democratic process by trying to argue in this parchment.
Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane
Also, concerning the tavern, the dwarves have decided to make it their embassy without informing myself. It is a clear way for them to avoid paying any tax, however what they have forgotten, is generally when a town decides to build an embassy on foreign soil they contact the government of that town and make a deal with it. However I am used to unorthodox and heavy handed political manuvers as of late. I still wish for the people of Trolls Bane to voice their opinions on this option, people of other lands please do not show disrespect for this democratic process by trying to argue in this parchment.
Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane
- Cliu Beothach
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No to the tax for the Tavern
I dont cara about the cult as long as theyre only killing the guards who stole their things
Stephen should definitly not stay gouvernour! He changes laws as he wants, he makes people angry, so that they dont help and the city gets dangerous. Since Stephen is gouvernour, the town gets worse and worse wich every day.
Negyth, the banned dwarf, who was killed five minutes before the bann by a robber in front of Eliza's
I dont cara about the cult as long as theyre only killing the guards who stole their things
Stephen should definitly not stay gouvernour! He changes laws as he wants, he makes people angry, so that they dont help and the city gets dangerous. Since Stephen is gouvernour, the town gets worse and worse wich every day.
Negyth, the banned dwarf, who was killed five minutes before the bann by a robber in front of Eliza's
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No, the tavern shouldn't be taxed.
Not sure....I'll vote no,
Jon.
Not sure....I'll vote no,
Jon.
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Negyth, you hold no power in this election, nor no say in town as you disobey my orders, and spat on me.
As for the vote
Yes. By the current relations the Dwarves have shown me. They are no more than the Orcs, I wish a private talk with Ghorn as soon as he can spare the time.
I care not for the gods, as i have small faith in them at all. This one in particular though, is a threat. But as they have done nothing, nothing shall be done to them
As it stands, the Military arm of trollsbane could take down any major onslaught of this city. We may not be able to defend the town at every waking second, But the city will not fall completely. Know this. memorize this. For it is the truth, and it is a promise.
Stephen is to stay Govener. Every one of you has your own problems. Being in a station of power such as him, publicizes those problems. Look at yourself before you bash at others.
Taylor Windslasher
Recruit of the Guard
As for the vote
Yes. By the current relations the Dwarves have shown me. They are no more than the Orcs, I wish a private talk with Ghorn as soon as he can spare the time.
I care not for the gods, as i have small faith in them at all. This one in particular though, is a threat. But as they have done nothing, nothing shall be done to them
As it stands, the Military arm of trollsbane could take down any major onslaught of this city. We may not be able to defend the town at every waking second, But the city will not fall completely. Know this. memorize this. For it is the truth, and it is a promise.
Stephen is to stay Govener. Every one of you has your own problems. Being in a station of power such as him, publicizes those problems. Look at yourself before you bash at others.
Taylor Windslasher
Recruit of the Guard
- Garett Gwenour
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It seems that Governor Rothman deems votes invalid when they are not in favor of his policies.
The tavern should not be taxed, nor was it ever established that the governor must be contacted in order to declare something an embassy. Never has a precedent for such an action been set, thus Stephen cannot merely deem it unacceptable.
If, however, Stephen wishes to do so, then I feel that in the same right the tavern owners should have been contacted and informed when there land became a part of Trollsbane. From my readings of the history books, the tavern was originally founded outside of Trollsbanes limits, and Trollsbane merely declared the territory its own. if the dwarves were informed they would be taxed when Trollsbane annexed it (from my readings I cannot see the dwarves as being informed of anything at all) they would not have agreed. Under such circumstances I feel it is unnecessary and illegal for Stephen to both tax the tavern and declare it illegal to establish an embassy.
Katrina
The tavern should not be taxed, nor was it ever established that the governor must be contacted in order to declare something an embassy. Never has a precedent for such an action been set, thus Stephen cannot merely deem it unacceptable.
If, however, Stephen wishes to do so, then I feel that in the same right the tavern owners should have been contacted and informed when there land became a part of Trollsbane. From my readings of the history books, the tavern was originally founded outside of Trollsbanes limits, and Trollsbane merely declared the territory its own. if the dwarves were informed they would be taxed when Trollsbane annexed it (from my readings I cannot see the dwarves as being informed of anything at all) they would not have agreed. Under such circumstances I feel it is unnecessary and illegal for Stephen to both tax the tavern and declare it illegal to establish an embassy.
Katrina
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Garett Gwenour wrote: I still wish for the people of Trolls Bane to voice their opinions on this option, people of other lands please do not show disrespect for this democratic process by trying to argue in this parchment.
Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane
If you want to protest the tavern's position, there is a parchment for that. This is not the parchment for you to stand on your soapbox and preach your beliefs. This is for citizens of Trolls Bane to vote their minds, please do not try and kill the democratic process by baiting others to argue with you.
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- Garett Gwenour
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No arguements are made here, you are not a citizen of Trolls Bane, do not vote or spout your political beliefs. This place is not for you.Garett Gwenour wrote:Garett Gwenour wrote: I still wish for the people of Trolls Bane to voice their opinions on this option, people of other lands please do not show disrespect for this democratic process by trying to argue in this parchment.
Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane
If you want to protest the tavern's position, there is a parchment for that. This is not the parchment for you to stand on your soapbox and preach your beliefs. This is for citizens of Trolls Bane to vote their minds, please do not try and kill the democratic process by baiting others to argue with you.
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Arr... *grumbles*
Why ye wan' ta tax tha tavern! It's still property o' Silverbran' lik' tha last tim' we talked abou' it!
Ye hav' ta disuss tha' wit' me, tha other both tenants Einkill an' Scorba, Elderkin' Tialdin an' Kin' Ghorn!
If ye wan' ta mak' ye mor' "friends" tax it... *smirks*
signed: Glóin Redlaughter - Tenat o' tha Tavern
Why ye wan' ta tax tha tavern! It's still property o' Silverbran' lik' tha last tim' we talked abou' it!
Ye hav' ta disuss tha' wit' me, tha other both tenants Einkill an' Scorba, Elderkin' Tialdin an' Kin' Ghorn!
If ye wan' ta mak' ye mor' "friends" tax it... *smirks*
signed: Glóin Redlaughter - Tenat o' tha Tavern
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So then Fooser, how come I do not get to participate in Silverbrand's, Tol Vanima's, Greenbriar's, or Varshikar's decisions?
Surely, others effect those communities as well. If those who want to vote and are in another community complain, then they should open their ears and ballets.
~Brer Beothach~
Surely, others effect those communities as well. If those who want to vote and are in another community complain, then they should open their ears and ballets.
~Brer Beothach~