All Against Govener S.R

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:16 am

The overthrowing of Stephen is near...

~*Unsigned*~

Callith · Post by **Callith** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:24 am

This is getting beyond foolishness.

Stephen Rothman's only claim to the city is the fact that he married Bailey Thunnigan, a woman he promptly cheated on, like all his previous lovers, then when she left the island and him, he started proclaiming himself lord of Trollsbane, and sadly he could do that because he was the only one with the strength of arms to hold the town, after his wife started a civil war. However how can you trust a man who can not after taking the vows of marrage, remain faithful to his woman, or perhaps he loves power more than those he claims to love, his past certainly shows this.

Brer, as to your claim the people on that list took the care to register, I am on that list and have as little to do with the town as possible, I have never apporached a member of this government and asked to be a citizen, I am there by default. I also count only about ten people on that list that I see or hear of on a regular basis.

As to taxes to pay the guards, back before Stephen was even a citizen, when he was away trying to establish his own town, the guard were never paid, they did thier job because they chose to, because they loved this town, and wanted to help the people, while all they got in return was insults from people like Stephen and his lackeys. Now the guard is populated by mercenaries who love gold, and are as likely to rob the townsfolk as protect them.

Perhaps there should be a rebellion, perhaps Stephen should help fund it himself, that is certainly what he seems to do best, has Silverbrand been forgetten, or has the rebellion against Derek Croydon been forgotten.

Fooser, I believe it is time for you to be silent on your attacks on Varshikar, you were one of the people who helped make it what it is today, and are as much to blame as anyone else. Perhaps you feel helping Stephen will erase that, or at least make up for it, who knows, you have never been sane, or has the self proclaimed 'Emperor of Gobaith' been dethroned?

Brer, you are a good man, and I do know what you see in Stephen, you are a better town leader than he is and it is you who should be govenor, Stephen came into power because it was the person with the strongest army wins. There is no need for that kind of leadership now, you are the leader Trollsbane needs, the fact is, most of the island is against Stephen, did you know that he and his knights are completely banned from Tol Vanima? If Stephen does let the people choose a new leader one who the islands leaders will work with, not against, I beg you, put your name forward.

That is all I have to say, no doubt Fooser and Stephen will try to discredit me by bringing up past events, however according to themselves past events should not matter, or perhaps they will call me a savage killer well that is true, I will indiscrimnatly kill anyone who seeks to harm me or anyone I protect, but I have never killed an innocent, nor have I ever betrayed someone I love, wether it be a lover or friend.

Callith
Co-Captain of the Tinechor en Vanima

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:25 am

Speak ill of me all you will. Call my lady any foul words and that oversteps the meaning of this arguement. Karguk overstepped that line and I will not let that stand.

Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:27 am

First,

We can gladly take your name off the list, if you feel it falsely represents you.

Also, I am flattered that you feel that way. I feel though that Stephen is doing a better job than I could. I still feel the majority is strongly for him, and until further proof, I will continue to do so.

~Brer Beothach~

Travian · Post by **Travian** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:27 am

Don't care cause you are to slow to catch me.

Karguk Inkathurg

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:38 am

Yes I did help them, but on numerous occassions I protested their obvious opposing of Trollsbane for little reason, like their pettyness during the orc war, and the list could go on. Eventually the nonsense was no longer worth it.

F

Turonga Mudwater · Post by **Turonga Mudwater** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:43 am

to bad stefan dus nut listun tah Turonga den he myt b saf now, nut has to del wit protestrs. He jus get so caut up in hatin Turonga cas she be orc an she call him fur wut he b: a zombay.

now it time fur stephun tah leav. maybe has he been votd in at first den he stil be guvnur but he dosnt so he mus leave.

yo is band frum town furevar by ordur of yer town

Turonga

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:45 am

I was not aware I nor the Knighthood was banned from Tol Vanima. Strangely not even Damien told me this the other day when I spoke to him. Perhaps you are mistaken ?

Stephen Rothman
Governor of Trolls Bane

Siegfried Schtauffen · Fri May 12, 2006 3:46 am

I agree with Callith.
Before, the town guard was just happy doing their job, because they loved the town, and were not copper-hungry.
It seems the only reason you implemented a pay service is to keep the guard from leaving?

Signed,
Scipio.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:00 am

Indeed.
~Dhaeraow

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:02 am

This job would not be taken for the copper. I can think of hundreds of ways to get more copper for less work. This is just a perk, they will still do it for the love.

~Brer Beothach~
Magistrate of Trollsbane

Siegfried Schtauffen · Fri May 12, 2006 4:13 am

Cliu Beothach wrote:This job would not be taken for the copper. I can think of hundreds of ways to get more copper for less work. This is just a perk, they will still do it for the love.

~Brer Beothach~
Magistrate of Trollsbane

How are you so sure that you can read the mind of the guard, Mr. Beothach?
I say it's an easy job, most of them, discluding Devrah are not doing anything anyway.
How often do you hear of raids and jailbreaks, and the guard were not there to protect them?
I would say sleeping and walking around sure is an easy job, which is certainly the summary of a guard, especially since they're paid.

Signed,
Scipio.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:17 am

name one time where the town guard robbed someone. and the so called "good" guards still kept there job, it's not as if we hire bandits to protect the town.

Callith, your insulting us because only ten people in our cityare well known? it's a big city, we're not all famous. I see no logic in that. And if your name is there, as Mr. Beothatch said, ask them to remove you. there must have been a mixup.

scipio, so your saying there should be no guard at all? this has nothing to do with them being paid really.

so far, your points on Stephen being a bad leader is:

1. He was never elected.

2. he pays the guard.

is that correct?

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:17 am

Why, I usually see the captain on rounds and training. I know of work that takes much less skill and time but has greater yields.

It is simple logic.

~Brer Beothach~

Siegfried Schtauffen · Fri May 12, 2006 4:20 am

Cliu Beothach wrote:Why, I usually see the captain on rounds and training. I know of work that takes much less skill and time but has greater yields.

It is simple logic.

~Brer Beothach~

Simple logic is that they are supposed to be there when bandits raid the town.
They are supposed to do their jobs.
Training is nothing if it is not put to work.
In one instance, the whole town was raided by a skeleton. Not one was there to defeat it, including the guard. She then was raided by a bandit on her way to the Grey Rose castle.

Signed, Scipio.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:21 am

This only means that we need more guards, and money may contribute to this enlistment. The manpower we have now is not enough.

~Brer Beothach~

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:23 am

now your point is, that the guard happens to not be around everywhere, every day ((which shouldn't be valid, bringing in on/offline time.))
which brings in the payment, it attracts more guards, more guards means more shifts, which means less and less times where no guard is around.
there are more guards then there was before, which means Stephen is fixing the problem to the best of his ability.

~Allen~

Siegfried Schtauffen · Fri May 12, 2006 4:26 am

Poots wrote:name one time where the town guard robbed someone. and the so called "good" guards still kept there job, it's not as if we hire bandits to protect the town.

Callith, your insulting us because only ten people in our cityare well known? it's a big city, we're not all famous. I see no logic in that. And if your name is there, as Mr. Beothatch said, ask them to remove you. there must have been a mixup.

scipio, so your saying there should be no guard at all? this has nothing to do with them being paid really.

so far, your points on Stephen being a bad leader is:

1. He was never elected.

2. he pays the guard.

is that correct?

I would like to mention to you that reason 1 is enough. He is not strengthing the town, as you can see, he has created even a rebellion. Before he had come, we could handle on our own. Now many are scared of him and his goons that hide behind him. We need an established goverment, that knows what their doing. The citizens do not realize that it is them that hold Troll's Bane in their hands, not their goverment. I suggest we create an election to vote for the new leader of Troll's Bane.

Signed,
Scipio.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:29 am

Read the laws over again and tell me that we hold the town in our hands. As well, the first reason should apply to the history of almost every ruler on this island. There will always be a resistance.

~Brer Beothach~

Daashi · Post by **Daashi** » Fri May 12, 2006 6:26 am

I do not wish to speak ill of the governor as he has always treated me with kindness.

But the recent problem with the tavern shows that he is far too heavy handed for politics or diplomacy, both of which are required for such a position.

Brer, I have never met you, but I have never heard a bad word about you and I constantly hear that you are a man of honour and worthy of respect.

Should Trolls Bane have a vote, I wish to nominate you.

Sincerely
Leto Mahn

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri May 12, 2006 6:34 am

Scipio,

stop bringing that point up, it is completley pointless. you can't say that he is a bad governor because you are unhappy, or that there's a rebelion going on. you and others have brought it up many times before. you can't say he's a bad governor because your un-happy, it's just silly.

~Allen~

Pharun Mizzrym · Post by **Pharun Mizzrym** » Fri May 12, 2006 8:54 am

a figure in a black shroud with the hood drawn walks to the board and chuckling rips the note from it and crumples it up, he turns and tossing it away he mumbles , hmmpf Governor indeed.

Jon Childs · Post by **Jon Childs** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:05 pm

Meh wunts ter point out dat Stephen is Racist! Who wunts a Racist bloke being Govener? All it wood do is cause wars!

-Gra

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:53 pm

and I would like to point out that insn't even valid. if you could give examples and such, that would be helpful. I could say your racist against halflings, but it doesn't matter until I atleast give something for you to judge. Once agains, so far, many of your points are that you don't like him, and he's racist.

And if you around these boards, you will find that our Noble Governor heard the voice of the people and set up and election.

~Allen~

Aristeaus · Post by **Aristeaus** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:09 pm

Personally i wish Stephen luck. But my reason for writing upon these walls is a matter of curiousity. What made you so resentfull Fooser, from my memory we parted on good terms.

Aristeaus

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:13 pm

I don't think that all of you rebels are reading the election topic, but anyways.

the election is in progress. not by you, but by Stephen. But before it can really start, we need someone to replace Stephen. You can't take him down without a replacement, so start thinking. aA few of you kept mentioning Brer as a canidate, but first, you have to have a canidate who wants to become governor,

~Allen~

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:48 pm

Is this what Troll's Bane has now become? A town of mercenaries, fools and murderers baying for the blood of their leader? You all let Rothman rise to the top and could have stopped him, democratically at any previous stage. All who have signed for the blood of Stephen Rothman are no longer welcome in Greenbriar. I would encourage Aristeaus to introduce a similar rule.

-Brendan Mason

Siegfried Schtauffen · Sat May 13, 2006 12:50 am

Poots wrote:Scipio,

stop bringing that point up, it is completley pointless. you can't say that he is a bad governor because you are unhappy, or that there's a rebelion going on. you and others have brought it up many times before. you can't say he's a bad governor because your un-happy, it's just silly.

~Allen~

You can though say that he is a bad govenor because many are unhappy, as shown by this board.

Signed,

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat May 13, 2006 12:59 am

I wish to reiterate this, as Jeanette said so eloquently. Give Stephen a chance. You cannot expect the greatest stability possible when there are few citizens not willing to participate except for their shouts of discontent. If you would give him a chance, you might actual be content.

~Brer Beothach~

Siegfried Schtauffen · Sat May 13, 2006 1:08 am

I gave him a chance for a god damn while, he's not shaping up.

Scipio.