Dodge

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:45 pm

I work really hard to get this skill. Everyday i train and train hoping to get it. I know some people that i can beat easily that have dodge and i don't. How do they get it and not me? I mean thats pretty stupid.

Shadows · Post by **Shadows** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:47 pm

Maybe it's not pretty stupid? Maybe you just don't know how.

So now,
Find out IG

EDIT: Also, by train and train i'm hoping your not indicating powergaming?

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:48 pm

I know i have asked everybody and they say train which i do everyday. I even train a couple people that have it.

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:49 pm

No i don't i always go back to town and roleplay alot but still.

Shadows · Post by **Shadows** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:50 pm

Then ask some more.

Little hint

The skill is called 'Dodge' and what is needed to be dodged more than sword, axe or hammer?

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:52 pm

Arrows or fists?

Shadows · Post by **Shadows** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:55 pm

Ding ding ding, we have a winner

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:57 pm

Oh so that was how he got it...

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:00 pm

But when your trying to learn do can you have armor on?

Thariel Feuersturm · Post by **Thariel Feuersturm** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:22 pm

are you able to dodge with a armour?

Hey guys. Why must we talk about IG-issues ooc?

I dont want to fight against a new powergamer who has all skills...

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:30 pm

I'm not a powergamer it's just when i do fight and beat someone and they say they have a skill that i don't and i'm stronger thats kind of wierd.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:34 pm

okay that previous post about powergaming and ooc issues has sent me into a rampage.

You do not ask someone Ingame, "How cna I learn to dodge?" that is not a logical question. In real life you would learn to dodge as you fight normally. But in this game the mechanics of it make it so you do not learn how to dodge when you fight against swords/axes etc. You must fight against arrows or puncture weapons.

ANd it is not powergaming. Powergaming is learning a skill in a way your character would never logically try to learn it. Think sitting by flies for hours/ hell even going to train at flies your character wouldn't do.

Learning a skill in a logical way like fighting mummies/ other monsters is not powergaming. ANd I swear to god if someone gives another person in this closely knit community more crap about wanting to learn a particular skill and that person calling them a powergamer; I will cuss them out.

Belgram · Post by **Belgram** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:36 pm

Pfft, you big powergamer you.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:38 pm

Thariel Feuersturm wrote:are you able to dodge with a armour?

Hey guys. Why must we talk about IG-issues ooc?

I dont want to fight against a new powergamer who has all skills...

Yes we can dodge with an armor currently, Retlak dodges a lot .

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:45 pm

I am a popular one aren't i?

I dont even train properly and i have high dodge, it really is random.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:48 pm

OK, personally; the first time i got DODGE was when i fought 2 mummies (Same time), and i was armed with a sword AND sheild AND with platemail..

AND it was about 4 days ago.

Does that mean anything?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:51 pm

That mean that everyone gets dodge one day. Just faster with certain conditions, but you werent in theses certain conditions, you just got dodge that moment, so it was nearly high enought so you learn it just before the fight.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:52 pm

ts a bit illogical though.

Why would i dodge if i have a shield?

(oh did i mention I ended up half dead anyway?)

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:11 am

i dunno, in previous fighting system you would dodge more with shields so you would learn dodge faster. new fighting system i dont think it works that way.

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:14 am

If you guys read the question you would have known what i was asking. I was asking how a weaker player knows skills that i don't and i'm stronger?

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:36 am

they did something that got those skills...

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:27 am

Garett Gwenour wrote:You must fight against arrows or puncture weapons.

Thats not true at all, my char acheived 181(oldclient) dodge skill without ever fighting against either. Dodge is gained through...I don't know, ironically. I never found that I dodged anymore with a shield, and my char still doesn't dodge that much at all.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:32 am

I still think this has flaws. I always wonder how one duel with me and I cap, Aremeh training for hours in a crypt or dueling and never caps. or how Retlak all of sudden is a master at dodging, or how I dodge better in full armour then in leather...

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:26 am

i am talking about the new client grobul.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:51 am

Poots wrote:I still think this has flaws. I always wonder how one duel with me and I cap, Aremeh training for hours in a crypt or dueling and never caps. or how Retlak all of sudden is a master at dodging, or how I dodge better in full armour then in leather...

Yeah, dodge does not matter at all about armor, and it was supposed to, this needs to be fixed or light armors are as useless as in old system.

Edit : By fucking god's sake! Its ArAmeh!

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:07 am

you'll get over it.

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:58 pm

Unusually Balamos lives much longer against Skeletons and Mummies in light leather armour than he does in his ElvenSilver. And he's inclined towards parry and not dodge. ?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:09 pm

Armor dosent change much right now, i had proposed something in fighting system topic but no one read it.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:42 am

Garett Gwenour wrote:i am talking about the new client grobul.

Ditto. I don't know where you get your information saying only puncture damage will increase your skill, but if thats true I've found a bug. I have gotton dodge skill only from monsters using slashing and conc weapons since the update.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:32 pm

i have noticed that Retlak's Dodge skills goes up faster than his parry...

Splendid! My parry has not gone up for months, i bet this is why.