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Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:54 pm

Armies? Trollsbane? What are you talking about?

Its just you... no one who you deem hates trollsbane really does. In fact, they're fighting for it to be free of what they deem is tyrrany caused by you. The only thing you'r doing is pretending to protect trollsbane, to get more peopel to guard you.

And how would you know that spinner was punished? I'm sure we wouldn't tell you.

And if you dont NAME the lizards you plan on attacking, how will you know which lizards you kill?

Brother Selisidour

Belgram · Post by **Belgram** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:17 pm

Stephen, you say we are working for propaganda when we say you wish to destroy our race. But when you call out for all the people on the island becuase this great threat is arrising you feel in the right? Now Stephen, you have no solid proof on the case of Spinner and yet you call upon the island. Your ignorance is stunning for a knight.

If we punished him, you would still have it that we were all slain.

Gort Greegog · Post by **Gort Greegog** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:28 am

Greebs to all ob joo.

Meh first question is for Lennier.

Who is de leader ob de ob lizzard's an orcs?

De second un is for Stephen.

Joo said dat joo banned de man dat brutaly cut down Mazrian, dat is worse den meh defending meh self against a knight an a guard dat was angered cause he suspended frum his position?

Meh banned fur year ur forever. Meh nub cares anyway. An he banned fur whub 4, 8, 12, ur 16 days? Nub evan jailed an his crime was against another cause he looked like a bandit. I was der, I saw de intire thing. I think urr mad cause I cut down 2 ob urr shields.

Stephen joo are lot like a lich. Liches hab bonies, joo hab knights an guards. Lich undead, joo undead. Lich nub cares for de people, joo nub cares for de people.

An to joo Marzian. De day us orcs helped joo nub was because we saw knights against joo. Dis was befor meh hated most ob dose people, Meh only knew 3 ob dem. Joo were out numbered an treated unfairly cause dem made a search party to KILL de bandits. Meh was asked to join dem, meh said yes in jopes ob findin joo lizzards an protectin joo. Same wiff Ret. Dem nub was going to gib de lizzards them found a trial ur a chance, dem was going to deal death.

Arameh, Zathe, an william were together wiff others in dis search party.

An people wonders why meh cut dem down? Dem dumb?

An on top ob dat they tried to prevoke meh with words an dishonorin meh! Dem also had picks in hand to stab meh with. If deese people nub deserved death fur dat ur nub jailed for bein involved in de party for killin, den Trolls Bane has really fallen.

An one last thing, Stephen. Maybe remember whub lizzards look like when joo sees dem. Funny when joo makes mistakes like dat.

Crunk

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:47 am

Are the lizards willing to give Spinner a trial ?

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:52 am

There used to be a Retlak i fought with quite alot. Though he was brave, and even foolish, he was honorable. Yet i guess that was what has passed. I show no allegance in this matter, though you know where to find me

~~Jace

Belgram · Post by **Belgram** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:54 am

Garett Gwenour wrote:Are the lizards willing to give Spinner a trial ?

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

I would give Spinner a trial, yes.

But will you allow us to hold a fair trial, with lizards judging lizards.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:57 am

I would need to watch the proceeding as well as bring key witnesses and victims. I would also need to be sworn that what would pass is entirely impartial. I would also need to know the punishment if found guilty.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

~Darius~ · Post by **~Darius~** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 pm

I have an oath still in place which holds my service to yourself at this time Sir Rothman. Supply myself with armour and blade and by your side i shall stand.

Brother Darius
Paladin of Zhambra

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:19 pm

All my knights shall stand to your side, mister Rothman, and those who do not, shall be burnt by Zhambra's wrath.

Brother Markous

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:12 pm

Brother Markous

With all due respect, I will not help in a genocide of my people. I have nothing against all who fight against armies, but those who cut down farmers and innocents I do. Of the 'army' of lizards, only 3 are good fighters; and 1 of them hasn't yet chosen his side.

I will fight against all who touch any of my people; for they have been wrongly branded. And stephen, we were not present for the Revlen council, and you will not be present for Spinners.

Brother Selisidour

Tinuva Geogroda · Post by **Tinuva Geogroda** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:24 pm

I will not fight against every orc that i see or something like that, i will only fight against the evil. By everyone who breaks the town rules i will help to get him.

-unsigned-

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:28 pm

Unsigned one, he who makes the rules is the person who we are attempting to remove.... and evil is not that which breaks rules...

Unsigned

Tinuva Geogroda · Post by **Tinuva Geogroda** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:31 pm

whe know by ourself what whe must do and not must do that is what i understand under "rules", whe know that we don't may kill and that kind of things, we dont need letters on a paper to let us know that. Evil is the one who does that kind of things. Maybe i sayed it a little bit wrong, but i hope you now understand me good.

-unsigned-

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:37 pm

Once more I will say I had no intention of killing all orcs, I can show you plenty of orc comrades of mine as well of lizard. The genocide Selisidour speaks of is just smoke and mirrors to disguise his act of protecting a murderer and theif by the name of Spinner so his lizard community will still be large.
Markous, we still need to speak as soon as possible.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Alkuurg · Post by **Alkuurg** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:41 pm

Seems Stephen does not listen. A trial was going to be organised against the one known as the bandit, but like Mazrian wrote before: Only Rothmans justice is enough for him. Zzyathis will protect Spinner from vigilantes. Rothman holds no power of Zzyathis, and we will not be bullied into following your every wish. William Greye and Zathe Luke understand this, that is why they have left your side.

-Mazrian

Siegfried Schtauffen · Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:50 pm

What you are doing is foolish, Stephen.
The power you have been given is too much.

-left unsigned. -

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:56 pm

A part of the above was copied down

Garett Gwenour wrote:
Kallahorn alone cannot face this onslaught of orc and lizards.

By these words you imply that:

1) Kallahorn is under attack by orcs and lizards
2) By lizards you show that there is more than 1
3) For spinner you need an entire army?
4) An onslaughter means active attacks. So Kallahorn has been activly attacked by lizards.

Where is your proof? Which lizards are you going to massacre with your army?

Brother Selisidour

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:02 pm

Selisidour, I wanted to speak to you privately about this matter but you push again and now i will write something I hope will cause you to bite your tongue. Both Retlak and Crunk have come to me after I called for peace with them and told me you were the lizard disguised at the "ambush." You the leader of this lizard society attacked myself with those orcs, and for this your entire community is shamed. When I wrote lizards I did imply more because I included you and person those who will also fight this two sided war you will lead. Telling me how to find Spinner then set up a trap to kill me.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Siegfried Schtauffen · Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:16 pm

Garett Gwenour wrote:Selisidour, I wanted to speak to you privately about this matter but you push again and now i will write something I hope will cause you to bite your tongue. Both Retlak and Crunk have come to me after I called for peace with them and told me you were the lizard disguised at the "ambush." You the leader of this lizard society attacked myself with those orcs, and for this your entire community is shamed. When I wrote lizards I did imply more because I included you and person those who will also fight this two sided war you will lead. Telling me how to find Spinner then set up a trap to kill me.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Called for Peace, eh?
Isn't it you that said that they must be removed completly from town.
And you would do whatever is met to do so?
I'm guessing that you are man of two minds.

- Unsigned. -

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:16 pm

No more insults and snide comments. Let us be reasonable. Revlen had no trial, my wife, Bailey, heard that he fought in town and he was banned. Simple as that. There was nothing to witness beside the punishment of his him banned from town for so long. He accepted his punishment and he has moved on with his life.
Secondly, the punishment on Revlen was caused by my wife and not myself. You state numerous times you do not fight against the government of Trolls Bane but your arguement to avoid stopping this war is that because you did not see Revlen's trial we cannot witness Spinners. You fight not only myself on this but also the Town Guard captain inturn the entire government of Trolls Bane, as such you do war with the government becuase of your actions.

Allow us to give trial to Spinner in Trolls bane, his crimes were done in Trolls Bane and not on your holy lands. Revlen's crime was done in Trolls Bane and as such he was punished on Trolls Bane's lands. If a dwarf of Silverbrand or a citizen of Varshikar did a crime in Trolls Bane, the punishment would be done in Trolls Bane as the victims of the crime are Trolls Bane citizens.
I do not think this is asking for that much, and if you respect the town of Trolls Bane you will accept that the citizens of Trolls Bane have a right to stand as jury to the trial of Spinner.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Belgram · Post by **Belgram** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:31 pm

Tell me sir Rothman, what did Spinner do? I want names and confimation

Sshak

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:35 pm

He attacked and slew Conner Rapthar within trolls bane territory, then fled with his armour. This was witnessed by a few other warriors I forget their names.
He tried to rob Orren Padrick.
He tried to rob a halfling but Lady Samantha Meryadeles frightened him away.

That is what I recall off the top of my head, however I believe there is more.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Belgram · Post by **Belgram** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:50 pm

From what I have witnessed I feel it more than enough for a 20-day ban and return of the armor.

Sshak

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:04 am

If a dwarf of Silverbrand or a citizen of Varshikar did a crime in Trolls Bane, the punishment would be done in Trolls Bane as the victims of the crime are Trolls Bane citizens.

Wrong, Stephen. Trolls Bane and Silverbrand agreed in their Treaty that no citizen of Silverbrand doing a crime on Trolls Bane land will be punished or even judged in Trolls Bane.

King Ghorn

GorgeBloodstench · Post by **GorgeBloodstench** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:08 am

Nub be near me again .. I will smush yoo into da ground if you stay around me! Yoo be tryin take control fer too long.

GORGE

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:22 am

To King Ghorn, that would be true however one of the crimes in Murder and was witnessed. Murder is what is punishable by Trolls Bane's government found in the treaty. Murder is what Spinner did and has escaped from the punishment.
And I do see your point King Ghorn, it is Silverbrand's soverign right. However, the lizard Spinner belongs to no town other then Trolls Bane and this is why a trial in Trolls Bane is all the more important. Secondly, the lizards of this community do offer the murderer and bandit asylum. This cannot be allowed for any country to do, if a murderer of Varshikar came to hide in Trolls bane, he would be promptly sent out again.
I truely do hope and pray the lizards can see their hard headedness and unwillingness to give ground in the slightest.

Stephen Rothman
Duke of Kallahorn

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:10 pm

Spinner is a citizen of Zzyathis.
I will call for a meeting amoungst the high council to decide what is to be done.

Till now, I ask both sides to pull down their weapons, and let us keep the Spinner case totally seperate from the alleged "Tyranny of Stephen".

I thank you all, and may Tanora's blessing go with you.

And stephen, my apologies for the attack, but you needed to be reminded that you are not immortal. Still.. I'm sure I learnt my lesson...

Brother Selisidour

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