Guild Council Meeting - Let's review the outcome

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:10 am

Basically what happened at the meeting is this:

- It was decided that there will be a list of lawbreakers who are exiled from the town.

- It was decided that there will be judges who have the power to put somebody on the list. A few chosen candidates were Korwin, Galadria, Dyluck, Aragon, Damien (he said yes already), and i forget the rest somebody please help me here

We need conformation from these people.

- It was decided that the Guild Council will have a website.

- The requirements for a seat in the council are as follows:

- For a Guild or Clan:
- 1 seat requires at least 6 members and 1 month old
- 2 seats requires at least 12 members and 2 months old

- For a School:
- 1 seat requires at least 12 students, 3 teachers, and 1 month old
- 2 seats requires at least 24 students, 6 teachers, and 2 months old

- All Guilds that meet the requirements (even if they are "evil" ) have the right to 1 or 2 seats (specified above), as long as they behave. If a guild member loses a seat, all the seats from that guild will be revoked and the guild cannot attend the meetings for one month.

That was what was decided at the meeting. The Guild Council site should be made soon.

These are the guilds with seats that i know of:

- Order of the Grey Light (2)
- Knights of the Grey Rose (2)
- Magic Academy (2)
- Ironhammers (1)
- Titans (1)
- Ranger Guild (1)
- School of Combat (1)

These are all the elidgable guilds i could find in the links section. If there are some i missed, leaders please post here.

People that are selected as the judges will also get seats.

(Edited by Lord Chaos at 8:11 pm on Dec. 29, 2001)

sean · Post by **sean** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:53 am

preatorian guard (1)

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 4:02 am

Titans are inactive as far as i know.
I will later send to each guild a document of the "exile" policy that I have written up.

Also let us find a time for the next meeting not too far in the future.

(Edited by Dyluck at 7:07 pm on Dec. 29, 2001)

korn muphin two · Post by **korn muphin two** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:02 am

sean don't the Preatorian guard only have 2-5 members?

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:30 am

Sean, you already have a seat, although it is not specifically for Praetorean Guard.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:30 am

Next time try not to break all the tables sean

@Dyluck:
Who will fill your second seat? Maybe Shi Long or Cosma? One of your top students i am sure.

(Edited by Lord Chaos at 10:32 pm on Dec. 29, 2001)

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 7:18 am

If you wanted me to make a TEMPORARY guild council page i could, until the official one is done.

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 2:43 pm

@ LC
Why would Sean allready have a seat, if his guild has not enough members?
We haven't discussed this yesterday, only the rules, you've posted above.

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 2:53 pm

bleh, and where's my seat? I'm in with or without permission as you all probably would've guessed... why not make it easy on yourself and safe the problem of me breaking into the meetings all the time?

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:09 pm

@ Peace-Keeper
The seats are dedicated to guilds and not to special persons. So if the rangers will send you as their man / woman, you were in the meeting.
And we also said, that the persons, which the guilds will send to the council, refering to their seatnumbers, can change from meeting to meeting.
But for a better working, it will be better, if always the same people will be send to the councilmeetings.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 8:47 pm

The Guild Council was sean's idea and all, so i think that he deserves a seat there. We discussed the requirements and the "list". Sir Hope has said that he will represent the Rangers in the meeting. I will represent SC, Roke will be coming as soon as we meet the 2 seat requirements. All of the "judges" would have seats there.

@Aragon:
If you need more information on what the "judges" would do, contact Dyluck. Then please post your response.

Leif · Post by **Leif** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:33 pm

we currently are fewer than it looks like...
we only have 4 or something active members i think...
we will fgix that up...
but i hope we keep our seat... as we DO influence alot in illarion

(Edited by Leif at 10:47 pm on Dec. 30, 2001)

sean · Post by **sean** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:11 pm

ahem we have 11 members in total and active for about 3weeks

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:15 pm

Well the guild council was not only sean's idea, it was brought up a long time ago already.

Sean, to qualify as a guild you usually have to have a webpage and a list of your members or else how else would we know?

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:25 pm

As I've mentioned... Force, no force, I represent myself and the town, with no guild title other then me, myself, I and our town if I do decide to force my way in...

(Edited by Peace Keeper at 3:27 pm on Dec. 30, 2001)

sir ganon · Post by **sir ganon** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 3:03 am

as a member of the ranger guild and the combat school and friend to all, i want to attend meetings and other functions so come on korwin , lord chaos , PLZ let me come

Drunk Mage Dipstick · Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:12 am

#me looks over the notes

hmm nothing about Servants of darkness, or a seat on the council...hmmm

it's so hard being evil now a days..

guess i need more members

#me nods and walks away

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 3:21 pm

As said, WATCHERS from the public will be alowed for the meetings. They have to be quiet and can elect up to three public representatives in the council.
For that purpose, a public meeting could be useful.
As said, up to three public representatives with the right for votes only in NON-GUILD-MATTERS will be allowed IN the council. For example, the judge and list point.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:41 pm

I am not the one who decides who comes, neither is Korwin!!! But Peace Keeper and Sir Ganon can come as spectators, as long as you follow the rules.

@Peace Keeper:
the meeting is not only guarded by great warriors, it is impossible to reach the meeting area when the meeting is in session, thanks to Lantharan Caine. It is impossible to force your way in, unless you somehow become a GM.

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Another Note:

I think that in order to qualify for a seat in the council, a guild must have a website that specifically lists their members, and is open to the public.

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I hope we get a website for this soon.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:46 pm

Ok, i see that it is an unofficial policy already. It should now be official.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:10 pm

Hmm why will have Sean a seat ?
The pretorian guard is not a guild cuze official they have only two members.
What is with members which are in two guilds? If i´m in two guild i can have then 2 votings if i for both in the council?

How we will declare aktiv members ? or mustend we have aktiv members for a guild?

"If a guild member loses a seat, all the seats from that guild will be revoked and the guild cannot attend the meetings for one month."(Lord Chaos)
Do we will have more then one meeting a month? cuze then is a ban for 1 month a bit less.

(ooc: can i make now 12 chr´s and form with them a own guild? *g* its sounds strange but a few guild´s we have like this. )

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:15 pm

*This is LC with new name*

We decided at the meeting that the 6 have to be played by different people, but i dont know how anyone but Bror and his friends can enforce it. And yes, if there is only 1 meeting per month, banning someone for one meeting isn't very long, so we will have to make it maybe 2 or 3 months.

@sean:
Where are your members listed?

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 1:03 am

pretorian guard is official
11 members in total and active for about 3weeks
members listed in head
nowebpages neaded in order to qualify for a seat in the council

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 1:18 am

You have to let the public know who the members of your guild are or else how can we verify that your guild really qualifies for a seat?

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:26 am

I List after I maiL them

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:35 am

Then you'll get your seat after you list them.

By the way, GMs don't consider it an official guild until there is a website that they can put in the Links section of the Illarion webpage.

sean · Post by **sean** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:42 am

guild council was not only sean's idea, it was brought up a long time ago already.

I Made it work Dyluck

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:53 am

Personally I don't see how you made it work besides calling a meeting, but you can take all the credit you want. It still doesn't mean the rules and policies should be bent for you though. We still have to know and verify the members of your guild before we can give it a seat.

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 3:36 am

I know of someone who said not to shoot flies with bow and arrows... it won't worth the time and effort... You people think that I can't go in, fine by me... just wait and see... As for the part of those who think I want in only because I'm a great warrior, you're wrong. I'm in simply because I want to be in, I have the ability to be in, and I am think your meetings are worthy enough for me to attend; and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it... As for the rest who don't want me in, we'll see who end off standing in the middle of the meeting, even as a ghost if it comes to it.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 3:36 am

The first meeting was sort of "come, you may get in". The next meeting will be a bit more regulated.