Idea: illagal things

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:01 pm

I just got this idea and thought I would show it. I think there should be things that are illegal to have. Maybey citys have differant rules and allow certain things. this can be anything from poisen weapons to a small and rare type of herb. This way, there could be more villains that could run a black market. plz post your thoughts

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:39 pm

Thatd be interesting, to have smugglers and stuff, but would be hard to do Id imagine. Because most players dont care about what items others have and so on. Sibanac: Legalize it!!!

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:40 pm

that is true, and that's why I held the idea in for so long, but still, I'm sure theres a solution, and just thoguht I would post it anyways.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:43 pm

most just wont show that their carrying illegal stuff now wold they?

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:49 pm

how about saying your char is carrying a small leather bag trying to hide it under his cloak, or your char looks suspicious, or he's seems high, or he slips a small bag to the person next to him secretly. just putting ideas on the table.you don't have to say #me is carrying illegal weapons and drugs hoping he doesn't get arrested. there are many ways.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:57 pm

But many wont say that they have it just so they can sell it for alot later.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:03 pm

many also like yourself pucshed a 24 year old grown assasian back when you were 15 years old, it's all on how good are you at rp? thiefs have to rp stealing, and when I used my char as a thief, he got along fine as a thief, got caught sometimes, other times he was succesful. Many things depend on rp, why not add another? plz post your thoughts, no matter what they are, we have 60 views and 6 posts, cmon

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:26 pm

But logically you'd need an rp reason to ban them as well. If the items were in conjunction with producing strong poisons, evil rituals, summoning monsters, making explosives, ect. There would be reason to ban them and take action on anyone carrying them.

amorax_kaka · Post by **amorax_kaka** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:31 pm

I think in the new client they show what your wearing just by looking at you

Saradomin_Meranwyn · Post by **Saradomin_Meranwyn** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:32 pm

They do. they are providing a describe self text-box. ^^

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:56 pm

Poots wrote:many also like yourself pucshed a 24 year old grown assasian back when you were 15 years old, it's all on how good are you at rp? thiefs have to rp stealing, and when I used my char as a thief, he got along fine as a thief, got caught sometimes, other times he was succesful. Many things depend on rp, why not add another? plz post your thoughts, no matter what they are, we have 60 views and 6 posts, cmon

yer sorry, btw last time you where 22?

If he leans forward to go and push my head into the depoti can easely kick his kneecap to kick him back, normal people wold slip and hit their noses.
And Kevin is for some "mystereous" reason verry strong.
Some day the world of Illarion will know why

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:15 pm

There are many things which can easily be illegalised:

Such as Drow blades..or what about sibanic?

I think Drow blades are illegal in Vanima.. not sure though....

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:17 pm

It would make sense.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:18 pm

Strong yes, But fast No. Dei is the fastest person IG, allthough Devrah gives him a run for his money. Now your telling me a 15 year old boy, That is STRONG. Can Hear an assassin that has been training since he was 7 years old, coming from behind? and Even if you did, Would you have time to say "shoo"? This doesn't make sense. But i don't want to spam this thread, since it does have a reason.

@Poots. There are weapons/armors that are illegal in peoples eyes, but not law. They are just incredibly hard to find, as they are GM spawned.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:42 pm

He can say shoo while kicking and you where already insulting me so i wold be extra carefull and hear him. And you said come at me with speed not silence. and you dint actualy do it you only said you where gonna do it so?

And now lets stop whyning before estralis or japeth walks in and closes the thread

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:20 pm

When you try to make something illegal you get nothing by this acting except some fun im matter of the RP

. The reason: Whenever we have some laws (like the taxes of Varshikar), the most people ignore them. Thus the law is senseless. Thus to act against this law is not a special thing because lots of poeple do the same.

The only thing you can get is trouble because you want to try to do it in a way of good RP. But that means that you get watched and in anytime you get punished for that. Therefor to roleplay someting illegal implements automatically the end of the illegal acting. You have to live with that.

The other people do the same without RP and act in times when noone is online for example. They will get whatever they want...

I hope that i have not a too much cruel view at this topic

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:55 am

@lennier, better than not posting at all

@kevin, your rp did seem a bit goofy, no matter how you put it. the grown assassin rushes at kevin with incredible speed and might:kevin pushes him away and says "shoo".......

but I'm sure we've all done bad rp before so lets just forget about it. anda what does, "yer sorry, btw last time you where 22?" mean? too many abbreviations.

@falcon, I have never seen any illegal items, and if there are, there should be more of them or become more common, not COMMON, just more common. the legendary sword of illarion, most powerful weapon in the game, shouldn't be illegal, no guard is going to walk up and confiscate it. it should make the owner king of illarion

@amorax_kaka, I didn't say anything about illgeal clothes, and if the new client makes it so you can see items in a man's pouch.....that would be freaky

@everyone, this idea is starting to look bad, but thatnks for the feed back, just wanted to know what you all thought.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:36 am

I would suggest to have bandit gangs too,there are many characters that would want to become ones because of various reasons,it would make the game more realistic.For that we would need a bandit camp or something like that thought,because now bandits got nowhere to go,i think that game really need bandits,now its like too safe.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:45 am

at least someone sides with me.... but I didn't quite mean bandits, more like, drug dealers or smuggelers, but they could be both i guess.

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:39 am

Arameh_ wrote:I would suggest to have bandit gangs too,there are many characters that would want to become ones because of various reasons,it would make the game more realistic.For that we would need a bandit camp or something like that thought,because now bandits got nowhere to go,i think that game really need bandits,now its like too safe.

That is something completely player controlled. If there are chars that want to be in a bandit group and they all have a common cause (that's not mindless PKing) then its allowed. Use the search function on the forum (its between FAQ and Memberlist at the top right hand corner for those of you who haven't noticed) to read up on the Movement and you'll get a jist of what is allowable and what has already gone on in game. They weren't all bandits but its a good example.

Ereaes · Post by **Ereaes** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:16 am

There was talk a while ago about a black market NCP. I dont have all the details on it, ask my friend Cliu about it. But there has been little development in that area i think, other than each town now has its own NCPs.
Now about the whole illegal, that would be up to the the council or dictator of that certain town, not a bad idea in my opinion but you run the risk of having many things turning illegal. I remember at one time when Members of certain groups were not allowed to carry wepons in town "Movement membes" and others. But that was a while ago.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:52 pm

Poots wrote:
@kevin, your rp did seem a bit goofy, no matter how you put it. the grown assassin rushes at kevin with incredible speed and might:kevin pushes him away and says "shoo"....... but I'm sure we've all done bad rp before so lets just forget about it. anda what does, "yer sorry, btw last time you where 22?" mean? too many abbreviations.

I dint even know that he was one , lol

It meant Yeah, sorry wasent your char 22 years old last time?

and to many whats? what does that word mean?

And yes i kinda screwed up, i sometimes need some time to think about it and thats not an option when someone's rushing toward you.

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:03 pm

The dictionary tells us (mainly tells you):

abbreviations
ab·bre·vi·a·tion

noun

1. The act or product of shortening.

2. A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.

My addition:
This also refers to "computer-slang", just as lol, rofl, gg and so on.
Heavier forms will result in the so called "leet-speak".

Conclusion:
If lil'Kevin doesn't know a word, he is going to sit down in the future and look into the dictionary.

Otherwise, I can only advise you to take the time you need for thinking, for both, playing and posting.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:28 pm

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:31 pm

Quinasa wrote:
Arameh_ wrote:I would suggest to have bandit gangs too,there are many characters that would want to become ones because of various reasons,it would make the game more realistic.For that we would need a bandit camp or something like that thought,because now bandits got nowhere to go,i think that game really need bandits,now its like too safe.
That is something completely player controlled. If there are chars that want to be in a bandit group and they all have a common cause (that's not mindless PKing) then its allowed. Use the search function on the forum (its between FAQ and Memberlist at the top right hand corner for those of you who haven't noticed) to read up on the Movement and you'll get a jist of what is allowable and what has already gone on in game. They weren't all bandits but its a good example.

I know there are bandits players already,what i meant is that they cant play for long,most of them stop playing because or chose another character because this game is not made for having bandits,they got nowhere to go.If they would be bandit camp with a depot then this would incite thoses that are banned everywhere to continue playing and then the game would have bandit gangs and be more realistic,and peoples would hire bodyguards and there would be more interactions between peoples and more jobs for warriors.I hope you all understand what i mean.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:05 pm

@ Aremeh, yes, I do

@Keikan Hiru and Kevin, lol, I was hoping I didn't spell it wrong, nice dictionry inscription

.Rhiannon. · Post by **.Rhiannon.** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:14 pm

"Illegal things" as you are suggesting require no code changes or anything like that. All you'd need to to is have some of the leaders of the established towns deem something illegal, and boom, it is.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:43 pm

I know, and I asked Pendar about it alll ingame and i didn't look like there was anything illegal, and the creators couldd make a new item illegal but that's a little too much work, so I liked the idea of poisened weapons being illegal

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:35 pm

Arameh_ wrote:
Quinasa wrote:
Arameh_ wrote:I would suggest to have bandit gangs too,there are many characters that would want to become ones because of various reasons,it would make the game more realistic.For that we would need a bandit camp or something like that thought,because now bandits got nowhere to go,i think that game really need bandits,now its like too safe.
That is something completely player controlled. If there are chars that want to be in a bandit group and they all have a common cause (that's not mindless PKing) then its allowed. Use the search function on the forum (its between FAQ and Memberlist at the top right hand corner for those of you who haven't noticed) to read up on the Movement and you'll get a jist of what is allowable and what has already gone on in game. They weren't all bandits but its a good example.
I know there are bandits players already,what i meant is that they cant play for long,most of them stop playing because or chose another character because this game is not made for having bandits,they got nowhere to go.If they would be bandit camp with a depot then this would incite thoses that are banned everywhere to continue playing and then the game would have bandit gangs and be more realistic,and peoples would hire bodyguards and there would be more interactions between peoples and more jobs for warriors.I hope you all understand what i mean.

You can arrange this you know? You can ask around with the GMs, if you, as a player, set up a little scheme of how you would like to see things. This could add to the game, as long as you give details, a bit of a reason for this. I do not know, try to show some initiative.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:22 pm

that's alot of quotes.....