Oasis

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:42 pm

Silverbrand owns huffen on da surface, yoo only owns yer caves under. Yoo nut fights fer it or buies it so it nut yers.

Gabon Corad
Chief of da Shadow

Talaena Landessi · Post by **Talaena Landessi** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:52 am

I like the area of the desert, im often at the oasis. Ive made my camp there, and as im a citizen of varshikar im assuming its alright.

-Konsteric K-

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:49 pm

You're own Kingdom doesnt declare the oasis is part of their kingdom. I've been nice enough to copy the map they provided to all to see there borders. Take a look.

You should read before you write, surfacer. I never said the oasis belongs to the realm of Silverbrand. I just said that parts of the desert, the area on which the oasis lays, are belonging to silverbrand.

To the stinking orc. we don't need a fight to make sure that this land belongs to us. It is our by Irmorom given right to claim the land of us dwarves which was given to us by the god Irmorom. the whole throne of Irmorom belongs to the dwarven realm. That also means the mountainarea. But we are so nice and give western parts to the grey rose castle.
And by the way, we paid more than enough for our realm, it is payed by our work and our money and was blessed by the great Irmorom. so go and hug an ogre, greenskin.

Athian, I asked Varshikar for a meeting to negotiate a treaty a long time ago, but your leadership never reacted on it, so your opinion is unimportant. if you don't care for your lands politic and prefere to be in Trolls Bane than its not our problem if something isn't like you want it. Be a better leader or don't complain about your failures. You still can negotiate treatys with us, if you want. But the next time you should react sooner if an other realm want to start negotiations with you.

Trolls Bane and Silverbrand are the oldest Realms on the isle. And as the oldest realms and one of the biggest powers we accepted for each other the claim of land. Just like the peoples of Varshikar did it too, just that they never spoke with any other power about that.

They grey refuge could have talked with us about that whole matter too. Its not our fault that they never did it and came too late. Next time don't wait too long for politic.

And Alexander, its unimportant if you like me or not, lad. I don't try to win a pobularity contest, I just do my job. and your castle is wrong placed because a castle should be at a place from which it can protect. but your castle is in the corner, behind everything else. the only land your castle protects is the bandit forrest, har! The town Trolls Bane is overrun before the enemys forces reach the castle. Like it happened before. And you can see now the result. Trolls Bane lays in debris. Many citizens died.

Ghorn Gemfist

Alexander von Hattingen · Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:52 pm

Dear G. Gemfist,

I speak for myself and not for the Rose.

When I learned something, than it is that we can only be strong if we work together. You try to do your Job, but in my eyes you do your Job more than bad. Your Words won´t bring you many friends. Your Silverbrand was overrunned by a handfull of fools. And those who helped the Dwarfes... you´re kicking with your Words. The Dwarfs were not seen in the Battles in front of the Castle, but fighters of nearly all Towns were helping the Dwarfes to throw out these Traitors and to hunt them.

When you think Silverbrand is an Realm who can stand alone and needs noone, than I believe your not the right man to lead any of the Dwarfes. And when I look around then I can´t see many Dwarfes around. But weeks ago there were many Dwarfes. What do you think is the Reason that I can´t see many Dwarfes around?

I know many Dwarfes and I like the most of them. There Words are sometimes harsh and they are always thirsty, but I can say some of them are my friends. They were always Welcome, when they visited me in the Castle or we were together on Journeys. And now when I visit Silverbrand, I am not very Welcome. You think youre the greatest and think it´s funny to make Jokes about a popularity Contest. Lose all which were fighting at your Side or liked the Dwarfes and you will see, that your Silverbrand will break slowly down. To isolate Silverbrand would destroy all friendships earlier or later.

You didn´t seen what attacked us at the Castle and how many Battles we fought, cause you were hiding with your arrogance in the darkest Corner of Silverbrand and did nothing. At any Place of this Isle we would lose many Citizens in the Battles too, cause the Enemy was too strong. But we fought tough and defended the Castle in many Battles.

~Alexander von Hattingen~

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:06 pm

The handfull of fools were just able to have success because they had help of the traitor Gishmel who, somehow, managed to get the key for our gates. Something we never handed to him! And if I would have been on the isle while that happened i would have beheaded that traitor myself! But for that its still time.

As you wrote it there are few dwarves at the moment on the isle, so we needed all the few dwarves to defend and protect our home. We can't offer help at the expense of silverbrands safety. Even you should understand that.

The reason that there are few dwarves are not harsh words, for that we dwarves are used to them. the reason was inactivity of our king. A missing leader of our town.

And just that you know, I thank everyone who helped Silverbrand in the fight. That shall not be forgotten. But that change nothing at other facts. We had not the amount of fighters or citizens to send help, and I hope you understand that, lad.

Ghorn Gemfist

Rand Kalhan Al'Vega · Post by **Rand Kalhan Al'Vega** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:18 pm

Perhaps you people should find another place to bicker? Konsteric wishes to buy the oasis... who has the authority to sell it to him? and will they? and what price? That is what needs to be known... not who likes who.

-Rand Kalan Al'Vega~

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:19 pm

Buying the oasis would be a pointless and harmful thing, seeing as it is a haven for all those who travel the desert, for water, shade, and rest. It should be a place that belongs to all who decide to make such a long journey.

Fooser I

Alexander von Hattingen · Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:24 pm

Four Dwarfes are needed to defend a closed Gate, empty Halls and a few Rocks and let all the other Citizens of the Isle die in Battles in your Neighborhood?

I for myself dont visit or trade in Silverbrand again cause of only Person, named Ghorn Gemfist. The King I respected, harsh words or not that he always used, but it was all in all a friendly King and a member of the greys. Maybe like you kicked me out of Silverbrand, you kicked the Dwarfes same Way out?

There were many Healers and non-fighters in the Battle. Some spended a lot of things and helped other ways, like to heal wounded Persons or to catch up Food or Iron for Weapons and Helmets. The Dwarfs are good Smiths and Miners... but some people like Salathe or myself had to catch up Food, Smith at the same Time and searching ore for ore in mining and Fighting in the Frontline? We needed a lot of help and only Friedwulfa spended a lot to help our Army. My Thanks goes to her.

~Alexander von Hattingen~

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:34 pm

What you call empty halls and a few rock means for us home. Can't you understand that? You demand that we leave our home back and alone, vulnerable to outer threats, to fight a war at an other place on the surface?
I can't help you when you think that 4 dwarfes, not all of them warriors, are more than enough to defend a town. Is that what the knights teach you in the knighthood? That 4 guys are a big enough group to defend a town? No wonder Trolls Bane got overrun.

And I didn't throw you out, lad. I just told you our laws, and what you should know. It was you who left on his own wish, pouting because I didn't use velvet gloves. Don't twist the truth.

Ghorn Gemfist

Alexander von Hattingen · Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:46 pm

The Isle we live on is not our all home? It´s important to defend your own Halls and lose all the Isle than to stand together and beat the Evil back? Never said that they are enough, if the Evil attacked Silverbrand you will overrunned too. The Knighthood teach me to act not like a fool and to stand side by side together. The safest Place was the Castle. All Fighters were there. And they had protect your 4 Dwarfes with their lives.

How you told me "your laws"? Yes I left the Mine in which I was invited, and I throwed you all the Ore I had back on the Floor before I had walk back to the Castle and get 200 Coins for the few Ores I had. And with your Words that it´s your Land to the Northern Forests I didn´t agreed and so I don´t agree now too. But I didn´t wrote you here to discuss political things of the Rose, cause I am just a Squire and Smith, it´s not my Job to do that. So it´s only my Person who talks with you and not The Rose.

~Alexander von Hattingen~

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:53 pm

Which lands to the northern forrests? The only land Silverbrand claims are the mountains around the throne of Irmorom and every land in viewable range ((That means every land you can see when you still have the mountain border in your window

)). The northern forrest don't belong to that, lad. And that was what I told you. And we also didn't claim any land in viewable range to the grey rose castle and the mummy ruin.

Silverbrand is more my home than the isle, lad. Your "We are all brothers so let us hug and dance" morality is cute, but nonsense. We are dwarves, you are a human. We are not brothers, we are not the same. I don't know you, you don't know me, so don't speak like we all are brothers and sisters and belong together, lad.

Ghorn Gemfist

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:54 pm

the idea of the oasis being a neutral zone is fine by me, any travelers can feel free to use it however rulesw will stilkl apply. and they will not be dwarven rules. Varshikar is free to pass for all those who follow the simplerules set in place. and thusly it's expected that traveler behave accordingly while there.
Varshikar will take some responsiblity for seeing to it that no ill purpose will be fostered at the Oasis, since the dwarves do hate so much to come above ground. we wouldn't want you to have to do any actual fighting, of course unless bandits pose a serious threat to your underground kingdom. If we take into account the only representive of your people, Gishmels fine workings, then it's fairly obvisous that any argument about something that happens on the surface shouldn't even be brought up with you, because frankly really don't care, but you like to cause trouble anyway.

Athian Corulas
Steward of Varshikar

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:58 pm

Again, just for you lad, Silverbrand don't want to claim just a little sandcorn of that damn oasis! We never did, and I never wrote that! Take that damn thing and do whatever you want with it, decorate it with flowers, whatever! WE...HAVE...NO...INTEREST in that oasis!

Was that now understandable?

And Gishmel is no longer a dwarf in the eyes of us. He is a traitor and shall be killed on sight, and everyone who helps him will be treated as an enemy too.
He betrayed the dwarven race and Irmorom.

Ghorn Gemfist

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:08 pm

aren't you easily baited. i can see why a total of three people managed to route your lack luster defensive. Frankly i feel that Gishmel is an excellent example of the current behaviorof Silverbrand. we all read your words upon these walls and all we see is pointless contempt from people who barely fought to save themselves. perhaps next time Silverbrand comes under attack no one will show up to your defense.
Don't get us surfacers wrong. Silverbrand wasn't saved because we're all so fond of your kingdom, and it wasn't saved because you of Silverbrans have been so 'helpful'. it was saved because, us surfacers didn't want the enemy to have your walls to hide behind. so i'm suggesting that in the future you try not to speak so badly of your neighbors, you'll never know when you need them.

Athian Corulas

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:17 pm

By Irmorom whats now your problem lad? Where spoke I badly of my neighbours? Lad, do you just write here because you like it to read your own words? Gishmel is an example for a good pile of rotwormshit! Nothing more.

Seriously lad, whats your problem?

Ghorn Gemfist

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:30 pm

Ghorn wrote:To the stinking orc. we don't need a fight to make sure that this land belongs to us. It is our by Irmorom given right to claim the land of us dwarves which was given to us by the god Irmorom. the whole throne of Irmorom belongs to the dwarven realm. That also means the mountainarea. But we are so nice and give western parts to the grey rose castle.
And by the way, we paid more than enough for our realm, it is payed by our work and our money and was blessed by the great Irmorom. so go and hug an ogre, greenskin.

Athian, I asked Varshikar for a meeting to negotiate a treaty a long time ago, but your leadership never reacted on it, so your opinion is unimportant. if you don't care for your lands politic and prefere to be in Trolls Bane than its not our problem if something isn't like you want it. Be a better leader or don't complain about your failures. You still can negotiate treatys with us, if you want. But the next time you should react sooner if an other realm want to start negotiations with you.

Silverbrand is more my home than the isle, lad. Your "We are all brothers so let us hug and dance" morality is cute, but nonsense. We are dwarves, you are a human. We are not brothers, we are not the same. I don't know you, you don't know me, so don't speak like we all are brothers and sisters and belong together, lad.

i think i'll let you speak for yourself, i have no further need to communicate with you. apprently these wrods may not seem rude and degrading to you, but be assured others see them that way. and if you'd like i'm sure i can find more example. you should look into finding a new job, your not very good with political relations

Athian

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:35 pm

Lad, are you serious? You can't be serious about this, that would mean you are stupid. Lad, you don't like it how I write in harsh words to someone whose man attacked our town? Who threaten our race with war because we want to punish the one who attacked our kingdom? ARE you really serious with that?

You gripe around because of some unfriendly words i wrote to some orc who threaten our kingdom with war.

And you DID ignore it when I asked in the name of Silverbrand for negotiations for a new treaty, thats the truth lad. That was your fault.

Ghorn Gemfist

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:50 pm

actually, you didn't ask ME anything, i'm not my brother, i have all messages sent to me in record, i recieved nothing from you, so you know. as for insulting word. as i said i can bring more examples if you'd like. but i suggest you just stop writing, save us both some time.

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:52 pm

I asked the leadership of Varshikar, not your brother. It was your job after your brother was gone, and not mine to write again a request, lad. So don't complain when theres no treaty and when you think something is unfair. I am a dwarf and we dwarves don't fawn. So don't complain because I didn't crawl with honey for your mouth to you, lad.

Ghorn Gemfist