What ever happened to enjoying ourselves?

[Anarchist]

When and why did Illarion become so strict?
Yea What I did wasnt Decent Rp but it was funny and I got banned fair enough.
But now Even the threads are being closed, Its just a bit of fun, after all its a game, people are meant to enjoy themselves. There is too much of people accusing others of 'bad rp' and imituraty, it seems like as soon as some tries something differant for a laugh the players react like the sky is falling and before you guys give me the whole oh it was immature, crude and inappropriate speech I just want to say SO WHAT!. Its just words there was no actual visuals of what was going on, are people to up tight and 'Good rp' oriantated to enjoy a laugh or two even if it was IG. I hapen to know alot of people found it rather amusing including the player of Dravish himself.

HAHAHAHA! Damn serious is funny stuff
I still love you Japheth

[Japheth]

Because I felt that it was something that didn't belong on the board. It was full of pointless pre-pubescant penis jokes, Anarchist. You may be the kind of person that wants to read and write these, but I can tell you of a few people who don't. As it didn't concern the whole Illarion community, and as only a few specific people wanted to view it, I felt that it didn't have a place on the board. PM the message to interested parties.

I still love you Japheth

And I you.

However, I can't let my love overcome me, so I feel myself forced to keep your thread locked, my beloved.

[Devrah Windslasher ~]

Besides, you have to keep in mind, many, many people under 13 read these boards, and I think there's some sort of liability to be had.

[Jacob]

You are not supposed to join these boards unless your over 13, and this is a nonprofit game so there can be no liability. Reason you got banned Anarchist is because people do like taking this game seriously, the more serious it is the more realistic, the funner it is. I admit I laughed a poo load over this thing, but because it was horribly inappropriate and if it became the norm i would not want to keep playing illarion. Anyways your not permanently banned so wait til January and come back, your characters are interesting.

[Devrah Windslasher ~]

I didn't mean, legal liability, I meant that the players have a responsibility to keep in mind there are children under 13. And if I recall correctly, children under 13 may read this board, but only with parental permission.

[Anarchist]

HAHA come on guys I was kidding.

And I you......my beloved

You know ...*fidgits and looks down* i'm..you know...kinda available this friday...if...your...ah...um..not doing..anything and stuff

[Thalodos Artemetus]

Back off bitch, he's mine!

[Anarchist]

HOE! he can make his own choices
*Attempts to make Thalodos Artemetus spontaneously combust with an evil glare*

[Quinasa]

Well. After all... this is a game. Lets all spell it together now: G - A - M - E. Thats right, optional (meaning no one forces you to stick around and put up with our too strict goodie RP atmosphere) and like every other game it has rules of conduct. Anarchist wants to know why we all take the game so seriously. Obviously you take it seriously enough to make another "wtf you guys suck" thread so you should just shut your trap. I read the entire log that was posted and nothing about it was decent. Sure we all have the right to play our characters but (there's always a catch people and here's the catchy part some of you assholes don't get) we all have the right to play our characters without the player feeling offended by the inappropriate conduct of other players.

So why do we take these things so seriously? Because the GMs and the Devs rule the picture here. They say what goes. They make the game and they can take it away. By showing such disrespect for the world they created I'm surprised any of them are still around seeing as how they do this all in their free time (and some that isn't free because they can get away with it when they aren't supposed to). I don't come to the community be it forums or game itself to be harrassed or offended by the likes of that log and the person behind it. Who cares if it was a 12 year old or a 19 year old lacking intelligence, it was still offensive. If you don't like it that we take the game so GD seriously then perhaps you should leave. No one here asks for that kind of display of behavior.

Devrah has a good point there: children do read the internet and its WITH PARENTAL PERMISSION. So now little Jimmy is sitting at his computer farting around the boards and his mother sees the C word a thousand times all bold and used in very appropriate manners. Jimmy's mother calls Rachel's mother and Suzie's mother and Simon's mother and says what a horrible place their children are visiting. So then the word gets spread that this is a bad website and we get put on the school list which gets shared with other schools and the newsletters that have the "watch out" articles for websites to be banned have our name on them and before you know it the word Illarion will be ranked up there with porn on the "what not to let your kids know about online" chart.

Its just a bit of fun you say? Fun for whom? I'm positive not everyone shares your definition of "fun". Sure people are meant to enjoy themselves but not at the expense of others. Why do some of you think that the only way to get attention or get a 'good laugh' as you call it, is to go to extremes? Yes. We are uptight. Yes. We are 'Good rp' orientated. SO WHAT!. My damn point and the point of everyone who was offended or felt a general disliking of the scenario you started is that you shouldn't infringe upon the rights of others for your own pleasure or assume its alright just because you think its funny. Its just not.

[Anarchist]

LMFAO. This isn a wtf u guys suck thread.

HAHA come on guys I was kidding.

HAHAHAHA! Damn serious is funny stuff

its an "all you players who make wtf u guys suck threads suck"
LOL Such passion for the game Quinasa

[Ellaron]

"wtf you guys suck",.. assholes, ...so GD seriously, ....farting,.... porn,.... damn.

Oh won't someone think of the children! I once got banned from a game for saying damn. It's stated the game is recommended for over 16's. If little 12 year old Timmy's mom is offended she needs slapping for leaving little Timmy alone on the net.
Should Anarchist have done it? Probably not. Was it funny? Yup. Is it the end of the world? If it is you need some awaytime.

[Damien]

His intention was parody, although it obviously went too far.

[Alexander]

You are not supposed to join these boards unless your over 13, and this is a nonprofit game so there can be no liability.

Am I the only one who just lied when I was little when I filled out those little surveys? I mean it says are you under 13 or whatever and you know that if you say no you don't get in so you just click yes. Maybe I am alone on thinking that some people in these chat boards could easily be under 13. Not that it is any liability to anyone if they lie about their age, just saying that if the age of others is your concern then there might be more cause for your concern.......and BLAH!!

[Ellaron]

True, but then how far do you take it? If underage people are here that's their bad, or at least their parents. We should not have to change. There could be some 10 year olds out there. Should we take out all the sex and violence from the boards and game? Even Furcadia has an adult "dream". Look at all the topics on the boards and tell me a waggly penis is the worst. Tell me those "whispered" conversations in game are for delicate ears. Come on people. He's had his wrist slapped. Let it go now.

[Anarchist]

Can I just say i'm sorry it was not my intetion to go out and delibratly try to
offend anyone. I obviously hit a nerve with a couple of you and I hope you
can forgive me for it. Also I would like to let you know that if need be then
Killing me is also an option.
All up I think we learned something from this experiance though. I now know
not everyone has my sence of humour which is fair enough and I respect that
Despite this I am me and will continue to find that kind of thing funny.
Prehaps oneday we can all get along and live as one huge happy rping family
emphasis on happy because thats what I want everyone to be happy here.
Not bitching and complaining like we all do. It looks like it, but that wasnt my
intention with this thread at all. OK what Im really trying to say with this all is
sorry so yea ill leave it at that.

*Walks away smiling*

[Alexander]

God no!! I am not an advocate of censorship and I appologize if it sounded that way. I believe that parents are solely responsible for the censorship of their children and if they aren't paying attention to their six year old and they are chatting here in Illarion or somewhere else that the liability should fall solely on them. I mean why reduce the content of our lives because some people can't watch their own children? Censorship is bad mmmkay.

[Devrah Windslasher ~]

However did
Anyone miss that
Horrible little display of
Absolute immaturity? >_>

[Fooser]

There are plenty of ways to have fun without using sexual images, and harassing other players, if that is the only way you define "fun" then fine, but it isn't appreciated

[Jacob]

I of course forgive you Anarchist ..
Youve had interesting characters and you are clearly good for a laugh. But just try and not go over board with it next time as some people did not enjoy reading about a lich being bum raped, and at the same time hear the orc clearly enjoying himself.

[Anarchist]

So why are we laughing then dev?
Come on I was almost genuine kinda maybe

[Alexander]

*thinks back* Almsot remenicent of the old Darkwalker/Wanderer player only without the mass murder.

[Devrah Windslasher ~]

*rolls eyes*

Really, now.

Wake up, people.

[Aegohl]

However did
Anyone miss that
Horrible little display of
Absolute immaturity? >_>

Really, though, maybe he has a point
or something in there. I personally
feel that we've gotten away from the
laughing and enjoyment of yesteryear.

Let's take a vow here and now that
maybe we could all be more, not only individually, but
as a group more tolerant and lenient.
Or maybe I'm just writing in code.

[Anarchist]

Haha Rofl lmao

Im guessing you both noticed huh

[Keikan Hiru]

I cannot fully agree here.

After such a shameless display of disrespect towards others and thier definition of enjoyment, I would rather see a perma-ban fit.

Similar cases, that have shown open acts of rape or sexuality have been handled this way.

Unbelivable to me, that you are defending your position and try to find "excuses" (humor !?) for such behaviour.

I, for myself, will not forgive such an act that easily.
"Get lost, and don't come back.", will be my resonse to you.

[Anarchist]

Well that's one opinion I guess but unfortunatly im not perm banned because
others are in a little bit of a better mood and are able to forgive and forget
when it comes to things like this. although I respect your opinion on the
current situation im inclined to disagree with it. I mean after all it is me you
recomend being banned. Maybe one day you will learn to take the game just
a little less seriously and learn there are some of us out there who are really
not as blessed when it comes to maturity and commonsence. Im sure your a
Kind person really and that you just have strong views but in the end this was
yet another silly prank that was in no way aimed at you.

[Keikan Hiru]

You mistake two very important points.

Taking the game serious, something I don't even think of,
and respecting other persons in your (although virtual) surrounding.

Since you speak of yourself as an immature person that lacks of common sense, I advise you to stay away from games that demand both as basic requirement (hence the age recommendation).

Of course do I have "strong views" when it comes to "playing" rapes.
If you tell me you don't, you just again show me that you do not fit into a healthy game-community.

In closing I hope for you, and us, that you regret the words "yet another" and reword them in "my only ever".

[Anarchist]

No I dont regret saying 'yet another' because im refering to everyone who
openly plays this game. I assure you im not the first or last to do something
considered in appropriate ig. However I will be returning to play this game,
like it or not. I never looked at it as rape seeing as a lich is bones meaning,
usually, it would be imposibble for him to actually have an anus so its more
empty space than any thing else.

[Keikan Hiru]

So, as long you do it with a corpse this kind of thing is okay for you?
You are aware that such an act is in most countries of the world a crime?
(In Illarion "only" rule #3, #15 and #16)

I never belived that you are the only (ex-(yes, still hoping))player of this game that did something inappropriate, otherwise GMs would not need to watch about the rules and could fully concentrate on quests.
I aswell have fist hand experiences with such things due to my time as GM.

And, according to your definition of "openly playing this game" I would be allowed to walk up to your character, slay him/her and walk away.
All without even the need of emotes (or reason), 'cause it adds to the fun and thrill I am feeling when playing the game.
I do not need to pay attention, as you did, if I spoil the fun of others.
(To come back to "respect each other".)

Just a simple comparison.

[Kevin Lightdot]

I didn't mean, legal liability, I meant that the players have a responsibility to keep in mind there are children under 13. And if I recall correctly, children under 13 may read this board, but only with parental permission.

i hope this isent pointed at me for ill be 14 soon ^^

and i think it was children over 12.5 actualy
wierd numbers ^^


i like some more untraditional RP but these days its kind of running out of hand there are verrry much people absolutely new to roleplaying coming in these days.
this was the first actual mass multiplayer roleplaying game i've ever played that has roleplaying involved.
and alot of newbies tends to make the RP of almost everyone look worse.

My RP isent alwais the best either and i get OOC sprees somtimes as devrah can tell you ^^

but it seems that many do not even know that this game involves actual roleplaying.

well i mean if your to lazy to read a bit about the game before you play ... thats just not right in my eyes. and they all have the time for it takes atleast half an hour for most accounts to get accepted i think.

BTW:
@devrah where did your char "devrah" go?
or do you mostly just play on other time then i do? (i mostly play from about 17.00-20.00 GTM+1)
just wondering
Kevin hasent had enough good arguments lately