It would seem Pendar has decided he is now powerfull enough to take over Trolls Bane and fill it full of his lackies.
All those of you who used to be citizens and have given blood, sweat and coin to your town, have now been discarded. You can of course apply to Pendar to see if he will let you continue to be a citizen or if he will strip all rights from you. Best of luck.
Is it just me or do most of the "new citizens" names seem familiar?
L.
I would sign my full name but a smaller target is harder to kill.
Trolls Bane's displaced.
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Perhaps you would do one better and meet me with more than a half factual letter on the walls. You speak of displacement where i inherited a town in chaos my only option to find out who of our citizens where still active and even on the island was indeed to begin a new list. Some have screamed for an election or speak of the people’s voice. How shall any such ever occur if we have three active citizens?
You speak of blood sweat and toil I live my life in this towns service and weather as recruit or leader my blood has held this town many times.
Where were the citizens in the past months since Lennier stepped down?
Where were the citizens when Lennier and I sat all but alone in town meetings?
Be aware the town elected me captain of the guard at well attended and hotly contested meeting. Be aware Lennier approved my leadership when he stood down, By chance and service the role of leadership has fallen at my feet.
I would counter that many citizens have forgotten there place and I plead with them this includes you if you have the heart to return and stand by brothers and sisters on our citizens role.
If you term for loyalty is lackie such is not my failing yet there are yet those among us who recognize our duty is to something larger than ourselves, something finer than self service. A dedication and passion for our people our walls our legacy, the peoples town of Trollsbane.
Meet me the invitation is open always.
Yours
Pendar Fayed
You speak of blood sweat and toil I live my life in this towns service and weather as recruit or leader my blood has held this town many times.
Where were the citizens in the past months since Lennier stepped down?
Where were the citizens when Lennier and I sat all but alone in town meetings?
Be aware the town elected me captain of the guard at well attended and hotly contested meeting. Be aware Lennier approved my leadership when he stood down, By chance and service the role of leadership has fallen at my feet.
I would counter that many citizens have forgotten there place and I plead with them this includes you if you have the heart to return and stand by brothers and sisters on our citizens role.
If you term for loyalty is lackie such is not my failing yet there are yet those among us who recognize our duty is to something larger than ourselves, something finer than self service. A dedication and passion for our people our walls our legacy, the peoples town of Trollsbane.
Meet me the invitation is open always.
Yours
Pendar Fayed
To Mr Mason.
Who says I have only started to complain now? I have tried to overcome the injustice that befell this town for many moons and have the scars and graves of friends to prove it. Our words were, and still are, no match for their weapons.
To Pendar.
I would meet with you with pleasure, if I were tired of breathing. I have seen you and your "men" discuss things before.
Point to me where the inaccuracies are in my letter. You had a choice, keep the original list of citizens and ask who still wishes to remain one; or tear up the rights of every man, woman and child who used to be citizens, appoint your friends as such and then demand people should apply to you if they wish to become a citizen of your town. Hmmm....Now which did you choose again?
People do not attend your meetings? Your friends do not need to attend and we others feel it unsafe. Why would we show you our faces, so the graveyard could expand its borders as you do yours? Do not question my heart. I too have stood many times in defence of Trolls Bane, but for the good of the town and not for my own ends.
L.
Who says I have only started to complain now? I have tried to overcome the injustice that befell this town for many moons and have the scars and graves of friends to prove it. Our words were, and still are, no match for their weapons.
To Pendar.
I would meet with you with pleasure, if I were tired of breathing. I have seen you and your "men" discuss things before.
Point to me where the inaccuracies are in my letter. You had a choice, keep the original list of citizens and ask who still wishes to remain one; or tear up the rights of every man, woman and child who used to be citizens, appoint your friends as such and then demand people should apply to you if they wish to become a citizen of your town. Hmmm....Now which did you choose again?
People do not attend your meetings? Your friends do not need to attend and we others feel it unsafe. Why would we show you our faces, so the graveyard could expand its borders as you do yours? Do not question my heart. I too have stood many times in defence of Trolls Bane, but for the good of the town and not for my own ends.
L.
Perhaps if you were capable of thinking that the old list is out dated, and a new one is required you would have no need to complain, perhaps if you had a brain of some sort? The only people who will be denied citizenship will be known trouble makers as far as I am aware. As to the new list being familiar, well the guards are automatically citizens, perhaps thats why they are there already. It does not take a great deal of abillity to introduce yourself to someone and ask them to add you to the list of known citizens.
Another point is, where does it say that any old citizen that has been removed has lost thier rights. The guard will still give them the same protection, Eliza will still give them the same prices. If you like Mr L here can't form rational thought, good riddens.
Callith
Another point is, where does it say that any old citizen that has been removed has lost thier rights. The guard will still give them the same protection, Eliza will still give them the same prices. If you like Mr L here can't form rational thought, good riddens.
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You are apparently out of touch with the happening on the islands. I have often told people about my intent to change the citizen list, Lennier for one was aware of my plan months before I brought it to bear.If you are such a dearly loved name about town sign it so I may welcome you back with open arms.
Infact I counter and proclaim a voice of discontent lurking in shadows and living the fringe now stepping up with anonymity to stir discontent. Perhaps if you placed as much energy into the towns wellfare as you do into attempt arguement with myself, we would have a new and treasured memeber of the town.
See me in person dont hid behind false claims I am prone to violence those knowing me, as such most of this island know such is false.
Let me make some use of this wasted paper and also state this is an open invitation for all with concerns to seek me out any time it is with the peoples input we will thrive and this is what i seek.
Pendar Fayed
You are apparently out of touch with the happening on the islands. I have often told people about my intent to change the citizen list, Lennier for one was aware of my plan months before I brought it to bear.If you are such a dearly loved name about town sign it so I may welcome you back with open arms.
Infact I counter and proclaim a voice of discontent lurking in shadows and living the fringe now stepping up with anonymity to stir discontent. Perhaps if you placed as much energy into the towns wellfare as you do into attempt arguement with myself, we would have a new and treasured memeber of the town.
See me in person dont hid behind false claims I am prone to violence those knowing me, as such most of this island know such is false.
Let me make some use of this wasted paper and also state this is an open invitation for all with concerns to seek me out any time it is with the peoples input we will thrive and this is what i seek.
Pendar Fayed
Pendar:
Really who are you trying to kid old friend, people are beginning to see right through you it seems, and the discontent has been long fostered, you and i both know this, we've talked about it before. We all know the guard see's fit to wield it's power far to freely. and though you may be in the right in your actions the level of severity used in situtaion is often far beyond its call.
If you haven't noticed Pendar, no one care what Lennier has to say, it's true at one time he was the elected offical but those times are over now, people aren't looking for his good graces on you, frankly they could care less, it's an old past that isn't important in the present time. dont throw his name to make your own actions seem valid, Goddess knows if did that with my brother, i'd be run off the isle. Lennier may be a respected individual in the town but the general populus is newer to this land and don't even carry any merit in his name other then what they've heard.
You guard have no watchers of there own, on system of checks and balance. no cirrculation of new blood for old, once you become a guard your in an exclusive club that makes you higher then the other citizens around you. but instead of keeping a constant and ever moving flow of people in this system the same members become stagnant and in thus overzealous in there use of power. if anything your guard should have a term of service if your not willing to take personal time to set up a court system that will judge both guard and citizen at equal standing.
There's far more to this then you seem to be aware of and i will give oyu warning now that calling yourself overseeer of the town is going to get you into quite a bit of trouble, now that you've given the discontent people a figure-head to aim for. i suggest in this role as brief or long as it may stand you do make a few policy changes, or of course you could not. Varshikar could always use a few more citizens.
wish you luck
Athian Corulas
Steward of Varshikar
Really who are you trying to kid old friend, people are beginning to see right through you it seems, and the discontent has been long fostered, you and i both know this, we've talked about it before. We all know the guard see's fit to wield it's power far to freely. and though you may be in the right in your actions the level of severity used in situtaion is often far beyond its call.
If you haven't noticed Pendar, no one care what Lennier has to say, it's true at one time he was the elected offical but those times are over now, people aren't looking for his good graces on you, frankly they could care less, it's an old past that isn't important in the present time. dont throw his name to make your own actions seem valid, Goddess knows if did that with my brother, i'd be run off the isle. Lennier may be a respected individual in the town but the general populus is newer to this land and don't even carry any merit in his name other then what they've heard.
You guard have no watchers of there own, on system of checks and balance. no cirrculation of new blood for old, once you become a guard your in an exclusive club that makes you higher then the other citizens around you. but instead of keeping a constant and ever moving flow of people in this system the same members become stagnant and in thus overzealous in there use of power. if anything your guard should have a term of service if your not willing to take personal time to set up a court system that will judge both guard and citizen at equal standing.
There's far more to this then you seem to be aware of and i will give oyu warning now that calling yourself overseeer of the town is going to get you into quite a bit of trouble, now that you've given the discontent people a figure-head to aim for. i suggest in this role as brief or long as it may stand you do make a few policy changes, or of course you could not. Varshikar could always use a few more citizens.
wish you luck
Athian Corulas
Steward of Varshikar
People do not want guards and beauracracy, its been forced upon them for so long now, that the only reason "guards" and government are around is just because the people accept the status quo, nothing more, it isnt supported at all. Multiple problems and crimes have been attributed to guards, and if they lived in any other town, they'd probably be hanging from the most convenient tree.
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I could not agree more varishikar could use some more citizens starting with fooser who conducts himself as a member of my town. Fooser you don’t like it the gates are open you home in the north waits or our new citizen list also stands open.
Athian you take my reference to Lennier out of context it was a direct response to the accusation that I took it upon myself to displace the old standings on the island.
Your opinion that times have changed is indeed correct and with that agreement i find my decision to annul the old list and build a new one all the more valid.
Overseer of Trollsbane it is the role i now act in indeed it is time I was formalized. I will not stand by as our town my home becomes the islands refuge to bring there disputes and troubles into Trollsbane along with what ever conduct they please.
All this talk about my guard grows tiresome for I can list most of this islands populace who have never had trouble with my guard. Perhaps the rest will have to learn some sense of propriety as guests in our town, if they cannot I am happy manage this i am content to believe they would be happier in other parts of the island.
Again I say I would welcome a tribunal system do not how ever speak of personal time who should i place in this system when I prior to today had perhaps three citizens.
With out this bold sweep I can never hope to create a structure for the town.
Recent events have indeed given me time to acquaint myself with the discontent individuals, yet let us be frank the discontent people tend to be those who wont stand with the town instead venturing from there homes to stir discontent, or simply those who linger on the fringe of society anyway.
I appreciate your concern and I hope we can meet over it soon. Seems on the brink of a new begging for both of us we stand to gain through working together both cities in our care stand to gain.
Yours
Pendar Fayed
Overseer of Trollsbane.
Athian you take my reference to Lennier out of context it was a direct response to the accusation that I took it upon myself to displace the old standings on the island.
Your opinion that times have changed is indeed correct and with that agreement i find my decision to annul the old list and build a new one all the more valid.
Overseer of Trollsbane it is the role i now act in indeed it is time I was formalized. I will not stand by as our town my home becomes the islands refuge to bring there disputes and troubles into Trollsbane along with what ever conduct they please.
All this talk about my guard grows tiresome for I can list most of this islands populace who have never had trouble with my guard. Perhaps the rest will have to learn some sense of propriety as guests in our town, if they cannot I am happy manage this i am content to believe they would be happier in other parts of the island.
Again I say I would welcome a tribunal system do not how ever speak of personal time who should i place in this system when I prior to today had perhaps three citizens.
With out this bold sweep I can never hope to create a structure for the town.
Recent events have indeed given me time to acquaint myself with the discontent individuals, yet let us be frank the discontent people tend to be those who wont stand with the town instead venturing from there homes to stir discontent, or simply those who linger on the fringe of society anyway.
I appreciate your concern and I hope we can meet over it soon. Seems on the brink of a new begging for both of us we stand to gain through working together both cities in our care stand to gain.
Yours
Pendar Fayed
Overseer of Trollsbane.
Ah I wondered how long before insult would replace reason.
To Callith.
I choose to ignore your insults and try to keep this civil. Granted the old list is outdated but that is no reason to tear it up. As I stated previously there was no reason it could not have been kept and people on the list asked if they still wanted to be citizens. New people could have been added to it and those who wish not to be citizens, who have passed on or who have left could be removed. Instead Pendar decided to rip it up, thus making all but those outside his circle of friends without citizenship and the rights that brings. as you say asking Pendar for citizenship is not hard, unless of course he dislikes you.
As to your last point I think you should look into the rights of citizens against those of visitors. I am sure you are not suggesting there is no difference between a citizen's rights and a visitor's. When you are better informed we shall continue the discussion.
To Pendar.
I am not privy to your private deals I admit. I am often in Trolls Bane as it used to be my home and so I am quite aware of the "Happenings".
I am not, nor have ever claimed to be "a dearly loved name". I have very few friends who remain, other than those I visit in the graveyard. I live in the shadows because you and your "men" chased me there. I wish to live in the light once more, but I confess I lack the courage to die for my desire.
You claim to be a man of peace and I claim the blood on your "mens" hands to be equally on yours. History will show which of us was right. I shall continue to support Trolls Bane with all at my disposal, with the hope that one day I can live there safely once more.
Of course you can list most of the islands populace who have not had troubles with your "men". That's because the list is so short.
This matter ends now. You will continue on your path as my words are no match for your weapons and "men".
Pendar - Citizen - Guard - Captain - Overseer - King?
L.
To Callith.
I choose to ignore your insults and try to keep this civil. Granted the old list is outdated but that is no reason to tear it up. As I stated previously there was no reason it could not have been kept and people on the list asked if they still wanted to be citizens. New people could have been added to it and those who wish not to be citizens, who have passed on or who have left could be removed. Instead Pendar decided to rip it up, thus making all but those outside his circle of friends without citizenship and the rights that brings. as you say asking Pendar for citizenship is not hard, unless of course he dislikes you.
As to your last point I think you should look into the rights of citizens against those of visitors. I am sure you are not suggesting there is no difference between a citizen's rights and a visitor's. When you are better informed we shall continue the discussion.
To Pendar.
I am not privy to your private deals I admit. I am often in Trolls Bane as it used to be my home and so I am quite aware of the "Happenings".
I am not, nor have ever claimed to be "a dearly loved name". I have very few friends who remain, other than those I visit in the graveyard. I live in the shadows because you and your "men" chased me there. I wish to live in the light once more, but I confess I lack the courage to die for my desire.
You claim to be a man of peace and I claim the blood on your "mens" hands to be equally on yours. History will show which of us was right. I shall continue to support Trolls Bane with all at my disposal, with the hope that one day I can live there safely once more.
Of course you can list most of the islands populace who have not had troubles with your "men". That's because the list is so short.
This matter ends now. You will continue on your path as my words are no match for your weapons and "men".
Pendar - Citizen - Guard - Captain - Overseer - King?
L.
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Perhaps the time for Trollsbane to finally have a king is long overdue, Trollsbane cannot endure itself for the bickering and in-fighting that constantly occurs.
In times of strife such as this there are need for strong leaders. I cannot think of a more fitting and competent one than Pendar.
If Pendar wishes a throne, so be it, I shall not suffer for my pride anymore.
In times of strife such as this there are need for strong leaders. I cannot think of a more fitting and competent one than Pendar.
If Pendar wishes a throne, so be it, I shall not suffer for my pride anymore.
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L.
Whom ever you are you weary me and I believe our forest’s weep for tree’s felled so we may indulge ill informed debate.
Pendar -Recruit- Captain – Overseer.
Standing as Captain with out a voice from my people makes the town a military dictatorship a serfdom of sorts. Now I attempt to return the voice to the people and pick a title more fitting to my role as a guiding voice.
You L are as ill informed as you are mistaken, if you write again I will make no reply unless it is to arrange meeting in public view so we may speak men to men and you may lay these accusations at my feet.
If you cannot think of way to meet me in person I must assume you are either criminal, paranoid or aware of your indefensible opinion.
Pendar Fayed Overseer of Trollsbane
Whom ever you are you weary me and I believe our forest’s weep for tree’s felled so we may indulge ill informed debate.
Pendar -Recruit- Captain – Overseer.
Standing as Captain with out a voice from my people makes the town a military dictatorship a serfdom of sorts. Now I attempt to return the voice to the people and pick a title more fitting to my role as a guiding voice.
You L are as ill informed as you are mistaken, if you write again I will make no reply unless it is to arrange meeting in public view so we may speak men to men and you may lay these accusations at my feet.
If you cannot think of way to meet me in person I must assume you are either criminal, paranoid or aware of your indefensible opinion.
Pendar Fayed Overseer of Trollsbane
To Pendar.
I am sorry if my concerns weary you.
As to me being a criminal, I have not commited any crimes.
Paranoid? Obviously I could not say, though do paranoids have proof? Indefensible opinion? My opinion is there for the people who read what's written. I do not need to defend any part of it, my opinion is there, as is my reasoning. No insults, no dimissive comments. I do not demand anyone does, or thinks, anything.
So lets see, your suggestion I am a criminal answered. Your suggestion of my loss of sanity answered as best I can. Your suggestion my words mean nothing, once again answered. You missed one more reason for me not meeting you face to face, FEAR. This I have already answered but will repeat. I am no match for you or your "men" in combat. I have seen your assassin friend at work. Call me coward if you will, I hope by now you realise your insults mean nothing to me. I understand you will not reply to this and that is fine. A branch could have been saved if you had read my last letter.
L.
I am sorry if my concerns weary you.
As to me being a criminal, I have not commited any crimes.
Paranoid? Obviously I could not say, though do paranoids have proof? Indefensible opinion? My opinion is there for the people who read what's written. I do not need to defend any part of it, my opinion is there, as is my reasoning. No insults, no dimissive comments. I do not demand anyone does, or thinks, anything.
So lets see, your suggestion I am a criminal answered. Your suggestion of my loss of sanity answered as best I can. Your suggestion my words mean nothing, once again answered. You missed one more reason for me not meeting you face to face, FEAR. This I have already answered but will repeat. I am no match for you or your "men" in combat. I have seen your assassin friend at work. Call me coward if you will, I hope by now you realise your insults mean nothing to me. I understand you will not reply to this and that is fine. A branch could have been saved if you had read my last letter.
L.
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