Ban Notice

Thomas Jin'takar · Post by **Thomas Jin'takar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:02 am

I'm glad you are showing your true face, Callith.

Everyone should know how "you" will make things better.

With a laugh,
# Thomas

Shandariel el Lysanthrai · Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:04 am

Oh please Jacob. She put no 10 peoples in danger. She told Alkuurg to do that with the ring after Dei, who left her on the day of their marriage, come to her and gave her the ring back. She was angry, and that with a good reason.
It was Dei's own fault, it was because his failure he done before. Kryssia told him to let her alone, that he should never talk with her again. He ignored it and harassed her again. And because she is not strong enough to defend herself she asked a friend to help her, to make Dei stop harassing her. You don't know how she feels after what Dei did to her. The wounded heart she has. And than seeing how the man who hurt her so much comes again and again back to rip the fresh wound again open.

Where was the guard when one of their own men harassed her? Followed her and talked to her after she told him to let her alone? Where was the guard to help her, and telling Dei to let her alone? Revlen was there, because Revlen knows how hard it is for Kryssia, and he knows how much Dei did wrong. And Alkuurg was there, a friend with a good heart.

But the other guards just stood on the side of Dei, their friend, one of them. A man, oh yes. Its okay when he harass her, right?

And it was the other peoples own desicion to get involved in their quarrel. Noone asked them to stand on one of the two sides.

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Callith · Post by **Callith** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:07 am

Thomas Jin'takar wrote:Don't we all remember Callith, the elf - Following Grant Herion on his path of the Movement?

Yes the Movement, which was set up as a force to remove Darlok from power, sadly Grant was stupid enough to also get into a fight with the town, I did not support him in this action, and when we Grant finally lost track of the true goal, which was to defeat Darlok, I surendered to Trollsbane, and spent time in jail. I was never involved with any battles against the town. When the 'Kingdom' of Notherot was defeated, I was involved in the battle, I killed Darlok's second in command Zerbus in single combat, I even killed old movement members who instead of surrendering to the town, chose to side with Darlok. So do not hold the days that I fought against evil against me.

Callith

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:08 am

Where was the guard when one of their own men harassed her?

I think you answered your own question. Leave it to an elf to make such a foolish mistake.

Aokan

Shandariel el Lysanthrai · Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:11 am

You didn't understand what I wrote, Aokan. Where was the OTHER guards when one of their men did that. They allowed him to do what he want and to harass her just because he is one of them. Just Revlen was man enough to help. Just he was guard enough.

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:14 am

Were you there to see Dei harassing Kyrssia, Shandariel? I was, I saw her follow him around, I saw her prevent him from helping me chase down Torin, a dwarf who set fire to the shop. I saw her get in the way time and again because she wanted to argue and fight with Dei over her broken heart.

Jacob Kent
Recruit of the Guard

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:16 am

Oh, I am sure I understood.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:23 am

I tried to warn Pendar and Lennier about you. You slew orcs in town just because they were orcs, and covered up a murder right in the middle of town. I brought up the first wave of guard corruption and only Durin was removed, I believe he left. The rest remained the same and it continues to happen over and over. Morons continue to come in, abuse their authority, and events like this will continue to happen. Many of us will no longer act defenselessly to this.

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Callith · Post by **Callith** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:30 am

I assume you are talking to me Fooser,

I killed bloodskulls in town, because they had declared war on Trollsbane, it was my job Fooser. I never covered up a murder, and I never even tried, because I have never commited a 'murder' as you call it, I have never killed an innocent person, the woman I was with atempted to cover it up which I told her not to do. I killed a man who admited to being a murder and a rapist, and who also admitted that he would do so again. Therefore I was doing my job to protect the people of Trollsbane. As to Durin's actions, I was not with him, or anywhere near him when he killed Turonga, however I believe the killing was out of town, and against no laws. So there was no need to cover up.

Callith

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:31 am

If he was so innocent, why was it necessary to place a weapon on his corpse to make it look like he was attacking people?

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Callith · Post by **Callith** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:33 am

Again that was my companion, not me.

Callith

Ferrari Swifteye · Post by **Ferrari Swifteye** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:46 am

It Is my nature to become involved in the politics of any town that I may end up in and thus I shall become enrolled in this discussion.

I personally wittnessed the incident for which the Lizard was banned for, and, although I was not paying full attention, I did not see him doing anything, but rather the orc.

As for Revlen: The man Deserves Ban under Law Number 4 and law number 2. I witnessed him beat Dei to the ground and I do belive raising blades at Several people, claiming it to be in the name of the town gaurd, is ground enough for 'attempting' to start a fight. He infact Raised a blade at me and said that he was able to Strike me because of the simple fact that 'he was not a Gaurd on this night'. Does this mean that upon his next 'shift' as gaurd he is to arrest himself for violation of the town charter? If so I do belive he has not followed through.

As for your gaurd, while I was having my life threatened by this mans ill temper they simple turned their heads and stated bluntly 'I saw no crime' This is no way for a gaurd to be run, Infact I do belive that its is the gaurds job to up-hold the law for all, friend or foe.

When I questioned Revlens motives for raising blades at me he simply raised it higher and others just said 'Step Down sir or we will Kill you, it is obvious that Revlen is right in this issue for Revlen is a guard and as such he is allways correct.' This is not how a gaurd should be run, Revlen should be stripped of his badge if he has not already retired and thrown from this town.

Ugarte Kalhazzir.

Kryssia · Post by **Kryssia** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:55 am

First of all might I suggest, Jacob you simply stop talking because you don't know what you are talking about and as to me stopping Dei from doing his work? Nay, I believe it was I who brought Dei the water to put out the fire in the shop and who also told him of the dwarf hiding therein.. so please cease and desist with all your drival... You and Dei both keep referring to Revlen's attack on Dei.. which I might add happened only after Dei attacked another guard a female guard.. and after the attack on him by the Orc.. he came up to me and threatened me..So please have all of your facts Jacob before you open your mouth it makes you look even more stupid when you don't if that is possible..Alkurrg and Revlen stepped forward after Dei got in my face as did you..so please..do the world a favor and don't speak unless spoken to..I won't deny that Dei hurt me badly very badly and yes I wanted that ring shoved down his throat..but I was in the shop when a fight broke out AFTER everything that had happened before then was over.. then I went outside and asked what happened and someone said there was a fight and that Dei had got hurt badly they thought. Then next thing I know Dei comes up behind me and tells me that I will get the same as just happened to him and walked off..I mean really its a shame when a woman has to rely on the defense of townfolks or friends when the guards are to drunk or to stupid to do so themselfs..

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:38 am

Don't worry "LOVE". I'm no longer a guard, Or should you worry? First of all, i don't care what you think about nor do i care. Maybe i did care for you, maybe i didn't. But this is something i will never tell you for the acts you have commited upon me these last few days. You'll just have to sit. Wait. Wonder. and Soak in your stupidity. You Know what this means if you know anything: The Shadow is back.
-Dei Gorgeon

Ezor Edwickton · Post by **Ezor Edwickton** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:38 am

Here is what happened today in the town walls of Troll's Bane:

Myself, Derek Corydon, and Dei Gorgeon where talking to each other on the street outside the shop. The orc Alkuurg approached Dei Goergeon and insisted he "eat it," reffereing to a ring. Dei Gorgeon ignored the orc and he went away. Some time later the Alkuurg returned, again the orc told him to "eat it," Dei Gorgeon told the orc that he was not going to eat it and for him to go away. Right away Alkuurg begain attacking Dei Gorgeon, totally unprovoked. Myself standing right beside Dei, steped in to assist Dei, in his defense. Dei Gorgeon fell at the hands of Alkuurg. As myself and Alkuurg fought, Fooser who was not far away, came up from behind me, and without any warning whatsoever proceded to attack me.
These are the events that led up to the ban.

Derek Corydon

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:39 am

Yes, I attacked when I saw Akluurg in harms way.

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Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:45 am

For starters, I know for a fact that Fooser would not attack without due reasoning. I have known him longer than most of you even have, so I think my opinion on this matter is quite an accurate depiction. Callith, your guards are the main problem; a statement I will explain right now.

It is the events that happen within the supposedly protected town of Troll's Bane that I wish for a vote of whether or not the Town Guard should remain the controlling power here in Troll's Bane. I certainly voted against the Town Guard to begin with, but at the time, many fools were blind to what chaos this would have (and has) brought to our home. We deserve the right to vote again on who is in charge, the people, or the guard. Too many events have transpired with the Town Guard in charge. And whether or not they are responsible for it, they are the core of all this anger and malcontent. If it is truly the Town Guard's duty to protect the people of Troll's Bane, then they should relinquish power back to the people, because they are the central hub of all this madness, regardless of whether or not they have instigated it. And that is what puts Troll's Bane in danger's path.

Disapproving citizen,
Cain Freemont

Berengar · Post by **Berengar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:13 am

You do not know how Berengar felt about having to risk his life protecting Dei

You dont know me either, nor my reasons to help dei in this fight. I am not with the guard and don't like to be drawn into their affairs, I can speak for myself though.

~Berengar

Farel Leonsepth · Post by **Farel Leonsepth** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:36 am

I am a guard for personal reasons, and to my knowledge have not abused the imaginary power which goes with the position, it would be a agreeable change if people would meet those they judge before judging them.

Farel Leonsepth

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:41 am

It is difficult, if not impossible, to ascend a spire of power to simply pass judgment on a select few that are a part of a greater whole that requires change.

Cain

Farel Leonsepth · Post by **Farel Leonsepth** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:46 am

Everyone has dislikes, be they people or laws and so forth, but to disagree with a certain number of these objects or people gives the right to disagree with the entire entity of which it belongs to. I can see some people viewing objects in this way, but i would see these people as norrow minded individuals whose opinion is simple biased and which holds no true meaning in the greater overview, are you one of these people sir. Or do i just judge you wrongly?

Farel

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:50 am

You judge me very poorly. If you are confined to the belief that such people are narrow-minded, then you yourself are narrow-minded. I have seen many of the atrocities that have been instigated by the Town Guard and I have seen many of the problems that have arisen from them merely patrolling Troll's Bane. I'm not asking for anyone to be punished. I'm asking for the citizens to have a real chance to decide if they want something like the Town Guard, with all the disaster surrounding it in various forms, as their 'protectors.' Can you speak with various townsfolk and just outright ask them if they are pleased with the Town Guard? Not if you want a truthful answer, in many cases. I know, I've asked several people.

Cain.

Farel Leonsepth · Post by **Farel Leonsepth** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:53 am

Its easy to speak of the ill which the guard have done, as with any we do make mistakes, beneath the uniform we are mortal, like yourself sir. But perhaps on one occasion you should ask the rights which the guard have done, maybe ask yourself why it's captain lies close to death, and why its members spend as much time recovering from wounds as they spend trying to stop the trouble where these wounds came from.

Farel

Thomas Jin'takar · Post by **Thomas Jin'takar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:55 am

When Pendar comes back, he will hopefully solve this problems.

- Thomas

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:00 pm

Farel, have you ever asked yourself if the Town Guard brought this trouble upon itself, into Troll's Bane's walls? Preposterous idea for anyone narrow-minded, but entirely possible for those that are witnessing it.

Protectors of the weak and ordinary are supposed to be above ordinary, meaning they have little room for what you call 'mistakes.' It should be the duty of a protector to maintain an atmosphere that is mistake-free, so as not to draw in possible trouble for that which said protectors are trying to, well, protect.

Cain.

Farel Leonsepth · Post by **Farel Leonsepth** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:06 pm

Cain, you say the guard attract the troubles of the town, mayhaps they do but expand your line of thinking. If the guard no longer patrolled the town who would be the target.

Farel

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:16 pm

Those in line of power are those who are targeted, that much is fact. Just look at the condition Captain Fayed is in. As long as someone is in power in Troll's Bane, and the citizens do not fend for themselves, the controlling power will always lure trouble into the town. I do not need to be told to expand my line of thinking. I have lived longer than the ages of many men and have seen the rise and fall of whole cities. Power draws violence. Only when the townsfolk are left to fend for themselves will the trouble either be thwarted by the townspeople, or cease to be simply from lack of importance. It is the idea of importance that brings about peril.

Cain

Farel Leonsepth · Post by **Farel Leonsepth** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:23 pm

Cain, the troubles which come to the land attempt to disable the one in power for a reason, so that the town would be as you say. An unorganised land which is run by the strongest member of its society. It shall become the resemblance of the barbarian cultures of the world whom fend for themselves as you say, but in doing so lose all which we count as civilised.

Farel

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:25 pm

People in such cultures can easily still thrive and improve. How so, you ask? Troll's Bane and its outlying areas used to be controlled by clans and guilds, as "barbarian cultured" as it gets. People were more exposed to danger, but because they were in such a culture, they knew how to fend for themselves, improve, and work together to overcome problems. Now the town can hardly do anything without the Guard's approval. And gods forbid anyone violate a small law set by the Town Guard, for fear of a situation like this original discussion happening. If nothing else, the Town Guard has weakened the spirit of men and women citizens alike.

Cain

Farel Leonsepth · Post by **Farel Leonsepth** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:29 pm

As you say the land once surived on its own, but did not all in the land have to have knowledge of arms, and be trained in melee or some other form of violance, since those times Trollsbane has grown, people can survive in the town without having to carry a blade where ever they walk. The times which you speak of were ruled by the strongest were they not? And were not all within the land adept swordsman, or proficient in some other form of violance?

Farel