Bye.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:00 am

Markous. I have heard of you telling a fellow illarionite about how glad you are of my banning. Mind enlightening me on this subject?

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:02 am

Sure. I did not like your way of RPing those mass murders. If you see the fact, that you are just 12 years old, it really made me think, wtf are you doing here?

We can discuss this via PM though.

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:13 am

Ziel Oden wrote:A) "this is a permanent bann meaning that you won't be unbanned forever"

Oh, and everyone get's a second chance one day.

Just look at the other banned from Illarion.

Moirear Sian · Post by **Moirear Sian** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:17 am

The guy who posted above me was banned too, right?

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:31 am

Ziel Oden wrote:Hmm.. Keep in mind it is an imagination - and if you feel ILLARION is my biggest negitive influence, you are so.. so.. unbelivably wrong. The internet holds worse things then illarion. Want me to name a few?
www.rotten.com
www.google.com
www.newgrounds.com

and keep in mind the infinate ammount of porn and snuffs sites across the internet.

The problem is not *how* bad of an influence it is, but wether it is a bad influence at all. I know of cases where Illarion has been entirely an unhealthy habit for adults, let alone our younger players.

Now, about my killers. Ever think this is how I take rage out, instead of real life? And you know how the lizard was the ONLY mass murder?

I don't intend to sound mean, but Illarion was not built to be a conduit for rage, rather as a method of escape.

A) "this is a permanent bann meaning that you won't be unbanned forever"

I took it upon myself to PM you with what is said on the internal boards. Trust me. I have more access on these boards than I wish I did often. I know what I'm talking about, generally.

B) Get a kid, get over me. The last thing I want is a bunch of grown german and americans that I dont even know worring about me. Or better yet, adopt! Go grab a child that accualy NEEDS love. This is the kind of behavior that makes me PUKE.

I don't want a child. And you weren't banned specifically because you were too young. I only explained to you my own concerns and I hope that you can respect them as such. You were given more chances on one hand, but on the other hand too far is too far.

Aristeaus · Post by **Aristeaus** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:58 am

Be well Josh. a pleasure playing with you, who knows we may meet again.

PO Farel,Aris,Kaja and others you know but i wont tell

Be well my friend.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:00 am

Your Farel and Kaja?

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:05 am

Ziel Oden wrote:Your farel and arist? Neato!

Yeah i would have never have guessed he was Arist.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:10 am

>< Yeash.. Let me use ye' ol' edit.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:16 pm

Aegohl wrote: The problem is not *how* bad of an influence it is, but wether it is a bad influence at all. I know of cases where Illarion has been entirely an unhealthy habit for adults, let alone our younger players.

*cough*

Yes.. unhealthy habit, indeed. Not to mention all the e-Drama that can come from the roleplays when people who are completely enveloped in the game meet other people who are equally as absorbed.

*cough*

Ziel, on the front page of this game's site it says:

Illarion Main Site wrote:This game is strongly recommended for ages 16 and older. This has nothing to do with game content, but rather the maturity required to play the game.

This means that we want the people playing to be of a certain degree of maturity before playing this game. If the game is a conduit for rage (as worded by Aegohl) for you, then perhaps that is a sign you should not be playing until you are a little older. Though, I look around and still see many exceptions to this concept lurking about on the forums and in the game as well. People who constantly argue with each other just because they feel they can, being one of the things that is littered everywhere.

I'm not saying that I'm defending or attacking you, because in the grand scheme of things, I haven't known you since you first came here. I was still on a rather extensive (around a year or more) hiatus from Illarion. I've seen many bad players come and go, leaving behind small puddles of immaturity behind them, and I've seen wonderful players go in the same manner. Its hard enough for the GMs to decide who is mature enough for this game, so I'm glad you're not taking this with too much hostility. Then again, we can't really see what you truly think, and I would be inclined to imagine you are rather devastated. If that's the case, then at least you can relate to someone else who knows devastation, who knows of losing very good things in one's time in Illarion, if not all of Illarion itself.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:39 pm

Oh ho! Where oh WHERE do I start?

Aegohl wrote: The problem is not *how* bad of an influence it is, but wether it is a bad influence at all. I know of cases where Illarion has been entirely an unhealthy habit for adults, let alone our younger players.

Do you have any idea how stupid this is? I play grand theft auto and live with my mom who is WORSE in respect for life then I am. Just yesterday I relized how much I unconsiously try and be like her. And oh.. trust me.. You'd ban her the first day.

Yes.. unhealthy habit, indeed. Not to mention all the e-Drama that can come from the roleplays when people who are completely enveloped in the game meet other people who are equally as absorbed.

Smart man walkin.

Though, I look around and still see many exceptions to this concept lurking about on the forums and in the game as well. People who constantly argue with each other just because they feel they can, being one of the things that is littered everywhere.

I'm banned, not from maturity, but from inabbility to click Back instead of Send. And just messing up one more final time. I do wish I had gotten a warning, IG or in a PM instead of just ringing my neck for killing a character that kept attacking my orc.

I'm glad you're not taking this with too much hostility

That is becuase I'm still gathering my peices back up.

we can't really see what you truly think

If you did, you'd only live to about 30 years

I would be inclined to imagine you are rather devastated

Smart man walkin.

Berengar · Post by **Berengar** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:16 pm

PO Farel,Aris,Kaja and others you know but i wont tell

YOU are Farel?!.... Wow I would never have guessed

edit: Bye Josh

Aristeaus · Post by **Aristeaus** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:19 pm

I should'nt have said anything.

Now get back to the thread ol boy

say bye to Josh

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:55 pm

Meh - I cant leave.

I'm like that ghost that keeps comming back

Till the IP ban!

, Joshua

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:26 pm

I'm banned, not from maturity, but from inabbility to click Back instead of Send. And just messing up one more final time. I do wish I had gotten a warning, IG or in a PM instead of just ringing my neck for killing a character that kept attacking my orc.

I beg your pardon? Have you not had a thousand warnings before, even a non-permanent ban before? There is a time when warnings are no longer the way to go hun.

Shandariel el Lysanthrai · Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:06 pm

I'm banned, not from maturity, but from inabbility to click Back instead of Send. And just messing up one more final time. I do wish I had gotten a warning, IG or in a PM instead of just ringing my neck for killing a character that kept attacking my orc.

Joshua, a few days before that with Cirindil you were res killing a halfling and a dwarf at the cross for stealing Ko's leather and insulting him. I told you that day that it is forbidden to res kill, even if the other one insult you or whatever. I told you that it is against the rules and will be punished by a GM if he sees or knows that.

You can't have more warning, you knew very well what happens when you res kill someone.

Pocal · Post by **Pocal** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:14 pm

And I've said Shan, that at least for the dwarf part, I, the PO of it, did not consider it wrong. I was asking for it. I was fine with it. I told that to everyone OOC that bitched about it. Can we please at least drop that part of the argument? I was expecting it, and I got it. It was all IG, just to piss off the orc, cuz my dwarf dislikes Orcs.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:26 pm

Taking Pocal's argument into case, I belive people are just saying shit to litteraly keep me banned.

What If I brought up the thing where Byron killed that halfing twice infront of town?

Lahela · Post by **Lahela** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:34 pm

Oh dear. I enjoyed playing with you lately. The char Capus I mean with that.
Who will bring Lahela her beer now?

Anyway, see you around or maybe later.

Aristeaus · Post by **Aristeaus** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:35 pm

The reason for his banning is for none of us to debate or to justify, its happned and its done. I see no point in rubbing salt in old wounds. As i like to say if you havnt anything nice to say, keep it to yourself. Josh came and tried, and damn he did well. The golden violin a prime example. From what i read of the guild, it was highly respectable. And as to Ko, he wasnt a random Pk'er, i roleplayed with him on numerous occasions. And the person who spent most of his time with Ko, Alkuurg who's PO is the simon cowell of the illarion world didnt have many a reason to complain, and spent alot of time with Josh.

So Josh had his good and his bad. Farewell once more fella.

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:35 pm

The only legitimate reason to res kill is if the other person keeps returning and attacking you.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:59 pm

Moathia wrote:The only legitimate reason to res kill is if the other person keeps returning and attacking you.

ding ding ding ding ding!!!!

Alkuurg · Post by **Alkuurg** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:16 pm

I'm sorry to see you go... Alkuurg will have to beat up Flamies on his own from now on.

-Simon Cowell?

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:18 pm

I lost mister Arist there too, to be frank.

Aristeaus · Post by **Aristeaus** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:18 pm

Chap, criticises

Mmm, that is his name isnt it?

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:19 pm

Simon Cowell is a man famed for sheer sarcasm. I haven't seen much of that in Alkuurg, really..

Aristeaus · Post by **Aristeaus** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:19 pm

I meant the PO, orrible lil chap

Avareniah · Post by **Avareniah** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:21 pm

Simon Cowell. Judge on American Idol (reality t.v. show that has thousands of people from the states auditioning to be the next "american idol"). He complains and insults everyone's performances and no one can seem to catch a break around him. (For the most part). I also do not see Al'kuurg like this, but if he is and Ko got no complaints from him... wow.

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:22 pm

What I meant was, I have never seen PO Alkuurg to be sarcastic.

Alkuurg · Post by **Alkuurg** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:23 pm

I know who he is...Just never thought i was like him. Well not on here anyway.