Food Level

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:36 pm

Another complaint.. the food level drains too quickly, and doesn't increase quickly enough.

I'm not complaining about eating 25 apples to cure your hunger, but bread...

Bread is obtained by working a lot for it, even having to wait 10 minutes for the grain to grow. Now my crafter requires about 7 loaves to return from "Can't work" because he's hungry to "stuffed". Now, most prices of each loaf are 4 or 3 coins each. THis means that he must make from 21 to 28 coins of profit from each time he eats, so it will be worth it.

Also, just sawing branches off trees seems to require a lot of food in itself, so it is turning unprofitable; since apparently crafting items got a bit harder now. [Don't know.. but i'm finding it harder]

Meat on the other hand is obtained by slaughtering pigs, easy for any fighter. And my fighter char actually needs 6 units to heal an almost empty health bar, to stuffed.

Now the logical reason is "get your crafter to eat meat"; but I have a valid RP reason for not eating meat [vegetarian elf].. could cooked and grown items be given a bit more food value please?

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:42 pm

Eliron, stop complaining about every little thing. The Gms work hard enough. Everything should be cool in the new client.

Btw if you guys need anymore testers

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:03 pm

Food values were rebalanced and will be uploaded as soon as our technical crew processes my changes to the script.

Am I not right, martin? *nudges martin to remind him*

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:14 pm

Thalodos Artemetus wrote:Eliron, stop complaining about every little thing. The Gms work hard enough. Everything should be cool in the new client.

All right, i'm sorry i'm complaining, but some things have to be said.. anyway the client won't be out for a while...

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:16 pm

Lol, that did sound a bit harsh. What i meant was that there are more serious issues that need addressing. Food system isn;t that bad, 5 meat's should do the trick (preferably not raw).

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:21 pm

Yes that;s true.. just one problem Eliron is a VEGETARIAN remember? He won't eat meat...

I just wanted equal amounts for those who prefer a vegetable-based diet.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:34 pm

Buy pies, onion soup, cabbage stew, mushroom soup. Cakes are the best though. Drinks also increase your food level albeit small amount.

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:43 pm

Estralis Seborian wrote:technical crew processes my changes to the script.

Did i miss something? What changes?

Pendar · Post by **Pendar** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:54 pm

If i played a vegeterian character i would collect huge amounts of mushrooms and cherries as well as appels. I have also seen carrots and tamatoes in game.
Vegerterianism "spelling?" is a relatively new concept i would guess and not one well suited to a cut and thrust world where people would turn every carb into sweat and toil, battleing to survive.
I think it is a great concept how ever it has a challenge as the choice to rp that challenge embrace it.
Much as people do when playing mutes. If you feel it is truly that unbalanced nothing to stop you using a little pork to keep your health up while eating plenty of veggies with appropriate #me to portray your eating habit.
Brian

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:11 am

Nitram wrote:Did i miss something? What changes?

I did some changes on the food script and sent it to Nop on 08/30/05. Since I didn't get any confirmation (Nop cannot upload scripts to the RS, right?), I resent my changes to martin last sunday. Maybe I am wrong, but I doubt that those changes found their way to the RS.

One can notice the changes quite easily, for example I changed the food value of an apple from 1000 to 2500.

martin · Post by **martin** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:21 am

You're wrong, I already uploaded them.

Martin

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:24 am

Thanks alot and sorry for my impatience! You are working faster than one can complain

Faladron · Post by **Faladron** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:13 pm

Vegetarinarians generally look rather sick and tired for they're lacking a big part of the nurishment, one would need to keep his body in shape.

So Eliron can't work that hard anymore for he doesn't have acess to nurishing food or doesn't want to eat it.

Guess you'll have to live with it.

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:29 pm

Wrong. Vegetarians have actually been known to gain more weight.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:37 pm

I know nutritionists ['doctors' specialising in nutrition] who are vegetarian... and she doesn't look very dead or thin to me...

In the old ages, meat was hard to come buy anyway.. so more than 95% of the population was vegetarian anyway

Shandariel el Lysanthrai · Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:04 am

One can notice the changes quite easily, for example I changed the food value of an apple from 1000 to 2500.

I highly disbeliefe that. Sorry Estralis, but that can't be. My char got too hungry for work and I ate 31 apples without getting stuffed!!!

So I really don't think the food value got up, because I needed less apples before the change of them.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:14 am

Quinasa wrote:Wrong. Vegetarians have actually been known to gain more weight.

That is become the "Some" Vegitarion do not eat meat, but instead cake, bread, etc.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:37 am

Ziel Oden wrote:
Quinasa wrote:Wrong. Vegetarians have actually been known to gain more weight.
That is become the "Some" Vegitarion do not eat meat, but instead cake, bread, etc.

Wrong again. THe tired part comes from a lack of iron (hope it is the same word in english as it is in dutch) in their food, which can be easily replaced by vegetarian something that is high in iron. My sister eats it, for instance, and, you do not even have to gain weight in this process. They most certainly not eat cake nor bread, for it is usually not very high in iron.

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:48 am

Misj is right, but its more than just iron. Zinc and proteins, amino acids and the like are all things you need to stay healthy that you get regularly and in large amounts from meats. There are foods that give you those things and vitamins that you can take to supplement the loss in your diet. I was a vegetarian for almost 3 years, so I know about the nutrition you need and the foods you can eat to help you stay healthy. Being a vegetarian doesn't always make you gain weight, that's not what it's about. But its been known on common occasions to happen because it builds a healthy body, vegetarians who eat healthy can oftentimes be more healthy than your average meat-loving Joe simply because they pay attention to things that our Joe buddy doesn't. ;]

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:42 pm

Iron may easily be obtained from vegetarian foods...even lettuce contains iron... cows who eat just grass do not suffer from lack of iron...

Also pulses [seeds, beans ect..] have a lot of protein in them...

Zinc > A common thing

Also for those who havne't noticed > THIS IS A GAME! You can get "stuffed" by drinking [an real lot].
You can eat 36 apples without feeling sick.

So we are just talking carbohydrates here...

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:11 pm

Cows get iron because they chew grass in a whole new way with 7 stomaches...Or atleast somewhere over there. Or was it 4?

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:15 pm

I was defending a point, Hadrian. My post actually had NOTHING to do with the game. Retract everything I said, sorry I polluted your thread.[/sarcasm]

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:30 pm

Misjbar wrote:Cows get iron because they chew grass in a whole new way with 7 stomaches...Or atleast somewhere over there. Or was it 4?

It is 4.. and thats to digest the cellulose which for us humans acts as fibre..

@ Quin... I didn't mean to be harsh.. but when you'r working IG you don't get "You feel weak and turn white from lack of Iron"

Eating just meat is just as bad...