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Kamik Windslasher is hereby stripped of his position in the guard untill further notice, for a number of allegations including.

Aiding a prisoner to escape jail,
and the unjustified assult of a person within the territories of Trollsbane.

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Post by Devrah Liioness »

Funny, I never heard Pendar issue such an order. Pendar, who is 1st in command. And I would like to know who he attacked..

Oh, and your prisoner, Callith. Check the jail. I put him there myself two nights ago, and made sure it was secured correctly.

--Devrah Liioness, New Recruit of the Town Guard

A note is added in the same handwriting, beneath the first

Oh, I know what this is about. Your little prize elfess. Perhaps she should not have been robbing a corpse as we tried to conduct funeral rites. Surely you elves have some sense of respect for the dead? I see now. This has nothing at all to do with the prisoner.
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Post by Cliu Beothach »

Finally.

This man has caused more harm to be than most citizens in Trollsbane. I am glad to see that justice is served.


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Devrah, who made you a recruit, there has been no annoucements from Pendar, therefore I suggest you remove that title from your signature. However as 2nd in command I can make such decisions, Kamik is only suspended untill we can find out what has actually happened.


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Post by Devrah Liioness »

Maybe if you actually spoke to your captain you'd be more up to date. Perhaps you are spending too much time with your fellows from the North to have the chance to speak with him, though.

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Oh yes, my friends in Varshikar, yes nevermind I've only been there once in the past month, also I spoke to Pendar at the tourny today, you remember the one where I beat you in four hits. He made no mention of you being a guard.

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Post by Devrah Liioness »

The guilty conscience elaborates where it is not needed.

I suggest you give Kamik back his authority, as you are certainly not around enough, from what I've heard, to keep a constant patrol.


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My command stands, untill Pendar or myself decides otherwise, this will be dealt with as soon as possible by the two of us, and a long term decision about Kamik's future will be decided upon.

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Post by Shrouded Figures »

once again it seems that every person strong enough to weild an axe must, make there descisions on it. striking someone down for any reason other then the cause of harm is something to be looked into. a corpse is a corpse, but to take a life because of a corpse, mind you one who is already dead, only does further to soil that memory. here it seems we have two supposed town guard who kill at the drop of a hat without seeking any other solution, and if any of ye can say that compiling death upon death is honorable then, you may need to look into your own souls, before condeming that of others. both Kamik and his lover should be banned from the guard it's obvisous no one will be safe with them patrollling the streets.


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Post by Devrah Liioness »

He never killed her, merely knocked her out.

Next time, sign your name.

Coward.

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((I am assuming, if they can return to the cross, this means KO'd. That is the way I understand it to be..And people that delete their chars have actually died? ))
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Post by Shrouded Figures »

and that somehow still makes it exceptable? so his victim survived, i hear the murderer you seek still remains free in the mean time, but i guess we can assume assulting a person over a corpse is more important then finding the maker of said deceased. thank you for clearing that up. as to a name. it's not for you to know, nor for you to care. do not try to belay the topic by scapegoating myself. the point still stands.

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Post by Pendar »

Alligations will be looked into by myself personally, as i know Kamik there is little to hide in this matter.
I am content to allow the suspension to stand until he and I can meet and work this out. How ever I am certain knowing Kamik as i do he will still be available to adress any direct threat on the town.
The only reason I am condoneing the suspension of his title is that the allegations are seriouse and under such shadow i must take what action I am able with out Kamiks side of things.
This is not a reflection on Kamiks character for i have much faith in that. Simply a measure until I can clear this up myself.
Also Deverah is official a recruit of the guard my apologies to you callith for not mentioning it today.
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Post by Kamik Windslasher ~ »

I know why this is happening. And I have not much to say to defend myself. The alligations are all true, but they are being looked at the wrong angle.
That Guider matter was already solved. I know it was a terrible mistake let him go, but I wasn't thinking of him, but of his sister Rhiannon. And besides, we didn't know he was the murderer.

What have you done to solve this matter, 2nd in command?

And, I attacked your wife today because she can't hear. I told her the corpse should be buried with it's belongings, but she prefered to rob him. I asked her to give the items back. I asked three times. And she ignored me. Like you said, we were in Troll's Bane territory and as a guard of that territory, I should stop robbers. I did my duty.
I also have to say that I am surprised by she telling it to you, since she told me once that she doesn't care about our laws or our people.


I am looking foward to meet you as soon as possible, Pendar.


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Post by Talaena Landessi »

I care not for any law of any man, i follow my own code and im out to protect myself and my family, friends and allies.

You cant rob a dead person.You will have to arrest half the population becouse when a fight happens and someoen gets killed , the person that was killed is looted.Most battles take place in trollsbane or what you call Trollsbane territory.It was outside the gates and it was a wooden shield and a copper peice, which would have served as fire wood and a nice mug of wine for a poor person who happens to be alive.

Again i dont listen to those who i dont care to listen to. At the moment i wasnt in the mood so i didnt listen.

My lists grow longer and time for action comes, beware, the two times youve cut me down are the last. I will surpass you and you will fall to my knees like the bitch mother that brought you into this world. You will beg at my feet the way she begged at the feet of becca.

May the gods have mercy on you , for i wont.
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Post by Kamik Windslasher ~ »

Second time you asked for it. I said I didn't want to beat you again. You came to me with your hammer.
And killed people? No, I don't think so. The dead don't return. And yet, in one day, you came back from the cross two times. That man was dead, his belongings had other meanings.

And I forgot to mention that you kicked the corpse. That was when I lose my respect for you.

But go ahead, call your minions. Grow stronger. I'm not afraid of you, Stephanie, nor your stupid assassins.
But an advice, mind your tongue when speaking about my mother. I doubt that, as an elder elf, she begged for her life.


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Miss Stephanie,

You may ofcourse disgrace Kamik Windslasher for his foulness, for his own disgracefullness to two races, and ofcourse his ridiculous acts. But do not ever talk about an elf that way, do not ever "loot" corpses who's souls belong to me and the Synode. Do not ever dare to attack elves in public, and most certainly do not dare saying the dead never return. I am "living" proof of it.

The Synode shall watch your actions with great distrust, and if we ever hear such stories again, maybe your "soul"(though I loathe calling your miserable thing you call soul that). He shall empower me, and the Synode, because of our decisions in this matter.

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Stephanie,

Consider yourself having made an enemy.

I will kill you on sight, provided we are not in town.
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Post by Kamik Windslasher ~ »

Misjbar, your orcish green arse has nothing to do with this matter.


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Post by John Irenicus »

Actually, if you haven't changed that, recruiting and removing of guards and recruits could only be decided by the captain and no second one in command, only if the captain was absent and has chosen a proxy person.
Furthermore I would propose that it is spoken about the whole thing, with every involved person being present.

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Post by Garett Gwenour »

Sounds like your entire guard is falling apart Pendar.

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Post by Kamik Windslasher ~ »

You are wrong, Stephen. But then, you are not inside the Guard and didn't know everything before you decided to post here.
Either way, I see the Windslasher name is on the mud and my post on the Guard may be removed, so anything I hear more will not surprise me.


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Post by Garett Gwenour »

I say this because there are guards fighting against guards.

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Post by Kamik Windslasher ~ »

No. There is one guard, on a higher post than he deserves, fighting with me and the rest that know I am not the monster he is trying to make of me.

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Post by John Irenicus »

Of course you could just stop complaining about things which do not concern you, Stephen. I am sure you are busy with your own businesses.

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Post by Callith »

Kamik, and Devrah, I am only acting upon aligations that have been made against Kamik, once these have been settled, he may or may not be able to return the guard, I am not trying to make you out to be a monster or anything of the like.

John, you left the guard with two full ranking guards and two recruits when you left, things have changed.

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Post by Pendar »

What I still do not understand is why my word on the matter lacked finality enough to cease the bickering. We all appreciate that fools like Misjbar will open there mouth at any chance. How ever as my word stands to look into the matter and I have agreed and as such sanctioned Kamiks temporary ban I fail to see what more there is to discuss.
So to be perfectly clear this letter is now closed to memembers of the guard and the issues will be dealt with by myself amongst us.
Stephen your concern moves me but as you can imagine running a guard is similar to starting a new town occasionally problems arise.
Yours in service.
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Post by Farel Leonsepth »

Kamik told the elfess to stop her looting of a citizen within the territory of trollsbane, the man was dead and those who cared about him stood and watched as the lady went through thier kins belongings. Not once, not twice but three times was this lady told to stop her actions before Kamik took it upon himself to enforce the law we stand for, the law we all abide by. If you wish the land to become a grave diggers paradise, by all means take the uniform from this good man, and let the level which is our pride drop. And by our i mean all the citizens of trollsbane, not just the guard!

Futhermore after these actions the elfess entered the town seeking revenge, attacking a member of the guard in broad daylight. For this we honour the man by taking away his uniform? And we allow the elfess to walk free, can someone here please explain to me where this makes sense? As from my eyes all i see is an elfess who has contacts high within our ranks, and who has used these contacts to defile all which we stand for..

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Post by Talaena Landessi »

Just a few things:

1) Pendar has clearly stated to me that what goes on outside the gates arent the gaurds problem.
2)Kamik attacked me for taking a single copper peice and a battered wooden shield from a dead man, only he and devrah were present. No kin.Out side of town mind you.
3)Is the man who's body i looted really a citezen?Whats his name?
4)Many bodies are looted, its common fact, and i dug up no grave to take his things.
5)i attacked kamik after he sent me to the cross for taking the copper piece and wooden shield. OUTSIDE OF TOWN. And if i remember right i attacked him after he was stripped of his gaurd title.
6)I hadnt talked to callith, my husband, about the matter at all. I dont know how he found out.

For those who dont know me, who do know me, or are new to the island. I have helped the gaurd trollsbane more then i have harmed it. I have helped gaurd this city even when i was a citizen of varshikar when varshikar was just bieng created. when john was captain of the towns gaurd. I gaurded the city before half the recruits were even recruits, before they came to the island, more then likely before pendar was even a recruit.

Im not a murderer. I kill only when i have a reason to.

Farel, read what you write and gather fact properly before you write something, old friend.

More then likely Kamik found it a good excuse to attack me , seeing as how im sure he is still angry with how his mother died and who was responsible for it.

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Post by Farel Leonsepth »

Talaena Landessi wrote:Just a few things:

1) Pendar has clearly stated to me that what goes on outside the gates arent the gaurds problem.
Since Varshikar expanded its borders so has trollsbane, i can find the relevant document if you wish.
2)Kamik attacked me for taking a single copper peice and a battered wooden shield from a dead man, only he and devrah were present. No kin.Out side of town mind you.
How do you know that none watched from within the gates safety, and the value of sentiment can never be measured by coin.

3)Is the man who's body i looted really a citezen?Whats his name?
His name i have learnt, but do not share.
4)Many bodies are looted, its common fact, and i dug up no grave to take his things.
Many bodies are looted when the guard do not protect them, we are in the town to stop such matters dear lady, not encourage them.
5)i attacked kamik after he sent me to the cross for taking the copper piece and wooden shield. OUTSIDE OF TOWN. And if i remember right i attacked him after he was stripped of his gaurd title.
Read my first answer dear steffi,, even if Kamik were not a guard, you still attacked another in our borders.
6)I hadnt talked to callith, my husband, about the matter at all. I dont know how he found out.
To this i can say nothing, i just wrote what i see
For those who dont know me, who do know me, or are new to the island. I have helped the gaurd trollsbane more then i have harmed it. I have helped gaurd this city even when i was a citizen of varshikar when varshikar was just bieng created. when john was captain of the towns gaurd. I gaurded the city before half the recruits were even recruits, before they came to the island, more then likely before pendar was even a recruit.

Im not a murderer. I kill only when i have a reason to.

Farel, read what you write and gather fact properly before you write something, old friend.

More then likely Kamik found it a good excuse to attack me , seeing as how im sure he is still angry with how his mother died and who was responsible for it.
Stephanie dear lady, i dont think less of you dear, and i hope you do not me. If you were a guard i this situation i would surely write in your defence.
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Post by Talaena Landessi »

Bieng gone for the months i was , i admit to bieng uninformed of current politics. i had no idea about any border changes.
How do you know that none watched from within the gates safety, and the value of sentiment can never be measured by coin.
I know becouse i walked out of an empty town about two steps and the body was there, and only devrah and kamik were present.

Bieng a poor mercenary with little work due to the fact everyone is killing for free these days, i have to mesure everything with coin for its the only way to get supplies nessicary to do what i do. And i find crafting tedious.

Ive seen gaurds looting bodies, keeping things, along with knights. Its the victor's right to keep all items left behind after a fight, especcially if they didnt start the fight or had very good reason to fight. I just happened to try to take what was left after the fight. The man didnt care, and no family was present and he most likely has none on the island so it doesnt matter.
Read my first answer dear steffi,, even if Kamik were not a guard, you still attacked another in our borders
Thats i suppose is true, but like i said. I follow most rules but not all. If im attacked i always get revenge, whether it is right then or later. Its just who i am.

I have nothing aginst you either farel. But this is rather irratating as i dont see anything wrong with what i did. But my point of view isnt shared by many. I fall into a nutral catagory most the time. i insure my survival, and the survival of those i care for. I dont care for many but i try to keep to my own circles. I speak my mind without bieng afraid of concequences and i hardly ever attack first, though sometimes people can provoke me to extreams which is hard to do at best.
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