Murder Mystery - Case of the Invisible Balcony Archer

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:35 am

Earlier this evening, a large number of people were in front of the shop when suddenly many started getting wounded and knocked out by arrows. In an attempt to find the murderer, almost all the people in the vicinity agreed to all travel to the library balcony together. Some people eventually had to leave but since people continued to get wounded after they left, it is most likely the ones that left were not the culprit. Some people came and stayed a while but the prime suspects who stayed the longest and were present during most of the time when the arrows were fired were:

Dyluck
Gurok
Nik Elrah (a lizard, not sure if that was the name)
Rune Scape
Sean-san
Setherioth
Ssssssla (a lizard, not sure how many "s")

Since there is no way to know for sure who the archer was I do not have solid proof of who the murderer was, but after a series of experiments and deductions I have concluded that the murderer was most likely Sean-san. Here is the evidence I have found to support this conclusion:

1. Sean-san had just learned to use archery lately:

-a few days ago Sean-san had purhcased some wind arrows from Caranthir. This is also the first time i've heard Sean-san buying arrows.

-in a recent bar brawl that I had with Sean in the tavern I had knocked him unconcious. Later he admitted to have tried to fire over 250 arrows at me to no avail ever since he had gotten back on his feet. Olorin and Galadria was also present at the tavern during this incident.

2. Sean-san was the prime suspect of an earlier attempt to murder me:

-earlier before the massacre, i was outside near the mines and being not fully prepared, I had been hit by a few arrows. There were 4 suspects near me at the time. I procceed to move away from 2 of suspects until i was out of range from them but noticed that I still being hit by arrows so I concluded the archer had to be one of the other two that were still in range. One of them was an elven lady who was quite new to the area and was mining (she also went to the balcony but left quite early and the attacks continued after therefore she didn't make my list of prime suspects) . The other was Sean-san who seemed to react (to my being hit by arrows) rather quickly and a rather suspicous concern for my safety. This leads me to evidence #3.

3. Sean-san seemed to always be the first to notice someone getting wounded.

-while on the library balcony many people continued to get shot and everytime after someone was knocked out, Sean always seemed to be the first person to react saying "!" or "omg!" or "wtf?". He always reacted very quickly, too quickly it seemed. He also seemed very quick to try and revive the person, showing a concern that somehow I wasn't convinced was genuine.

4. Sean-san became the one of the prime suspects in experiment #1

-I did a little experiment where I moved one of the people, Setherioth, to one end of the balcony where he was out of firing range from some of the other suspects. A few minutes later Setherioth was victimized and knocked unconcious. I had already quickly observed that the only suspects in range to have hit Setherioth were Sean-san, Rune Scape, and me. Therefore one of those three for sure had to be the one who hit Setherioth.

5. Sean-san became the prime suspect in experiment #2

-one of the others in the room decided to do an experiment secretly in which he told me about later on. He deducted that the archer hoding a bow and arrows would have poor defenses so he proceeded to shoot one regular arrow at each suspect. All survived except for Sean-san. Then he did another experiment where he threw one throwing star at each suspect. Again all suspects survived except for Sean-san who fell in one hit. Now the question that comes to mind is: Being in a room where so many people have been hit and everyone is a suspect, why would Sean-san wear such inadequate protection that he would be knocked out from one flimsy arrow or little throwing star each time? One would have to conclude he is probably the one holding bow and arrows in his hand.

6. Sean-san has had a bad history:

-as we all know Sean-san had already misbehaved and acted inappropriately in the past. We all deserve second chances and shouldn't judge only from the past, but his record is still something that comes to mind.

These are the six pieces of evidence that leads me to believe Sean-san is the murderer. This is my opinions and deductions so if anybody agrees or disagrees or have any better evidences feel free to voice your opinions here. Until there is further better evidences, I must now issue a warning to the people of Troll's Bane:

People of Troll's Bane should be aware that Sean-san is the prime suspect of a recent murder case. Use caution and wear adequate protection when near him.

korn muphin two · Post by **korn muphin two** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 2:57 pm

Well Gurok came in after many many people were murdered so
he should be off the list.

Terri · Post by **Terri** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:08 pm

Well, I can only say that the day we were on the roof of lib, it was weird... EVERY single one of us died at least once... that included even sean. However, most evdience proofed that it's Sean, I'm still having problem trying to figure out if he is the only one...

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:06 pm

hmm... its wierd to see my name coming up in a murser invetigation ...and if sean is guilty , and he used my arrows to kill people , i wouldnt have never sold the arrows for him.

well..this surely seems to be work of sean..

hmm. I must become cranky again , darn im selling / giving stuf away...no wonder that they cause trouble...when you get something while doing nothing you wont think a second what to do with it..

this is the way to do a murder report..
nice work.
#me starts to look at dylucks report more closely..
indeed nice work.
maybe you should for a "town guards" or somekind "peace-keepers" , if you can do paperwork this well , i have no doubt that you couldnt do the work as well on the "field".

you should really think about the peacekeepers ,maybe we should have a voting or something..
if the majority of population agrees with the building of peacekeeper/town guard organisation , they would have rigth to serve justice / hold up laws.

this idea is good to bring up after again one massarce .

Regards , Caranthir.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:21 pm

@terri: Actually I'm pretty sure that me, Gurok, and probably the two lizards didn't die. Also as I mentioned above, Sean-san did get knocked out twice as a result of experiment #2. I wasn't able to keep track of exactly how many times each person got knocked out though, but my initial suspicion was that there was probably more than one murderer.

Also I want to clarify that in experiment #2, nobody even got hit except for Sean-san.

sean · Post by **sean** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:42 pm

not to mention if i was the murderer how did an X apear over myself 3times on the baclnony when i was killed and i emember getting the arrows but when i woke up theywere gone maybe i was drunk as hell??

sean · Post by **sean** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:49 pm

EXP#2 is flawed
1: the answer is simple i had on simple leather armour b/c i was training my skill erlier (korn2 can account for it)
2: i was wering a wand at the time b/c i am a mage and my parry already is poor
3: my parry is poor anyways so i would fall in ome hit

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 7:32 pm

Your arrows were gone because you used them all trying to shoot at me in the tavern and killing people duh o.0

1. Yes and korn muphin can also account that what you were "training" were your arrows . Thanks for reminding me of this piece of evidence.

2. Who believes that Sean-san is so honorable that even in such a dangerous situation he would wear only a wand for the sake of being a "mage"?

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 7:44 pm

I am not going to speculate on the killer since i was not there. Maybe sean-san would have done something like that before, but I really believe he has changed. Sean only goes after people he has something against anyway. You cant be prejudiced against sean just because he used to be like that. I think you should give everyone a fair chance to defend themselves.

PS: This topic is getting a bit OOC right now with "parry" and "X's"...

dragonsoul · Post by **dragonsoul** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 8:48 pm

hey i dint get hit either.... but i hope u guys can trust me enough when i say it wasnt me... not that i was a suspect ne way....
@whoever is the archer: you r a @#$%#@$ coward and u make me sick!!!!!!

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 8:56 pm

I remind you once again that only a few days ago at the tavern, Sean-san had cast hept kels at me and tried to shoot over 250 arrows at me which he admitted himself plus he often starts yelling. So I wouldn't say that people are prejudice against Sean-san just because of the way he USED to be.

I AM giving him a fair chance to defend himself. I've simply stated my conclusion that he is the prime suspect, supported by many pieces of evidence (and witnesses who can back it up if doubted) which he can try to argue if he had a good explanation.

Oh by the way, Sean-san says he was holding a wand for the sake of being a mage and yet he was training with bow and arrows earlier. Kind of ironic isn't it?

Elk Head · Post by **Elk Head** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:24 pm

yea i remember sean doing that... but i dunno who i think it is cause im kinda stuck in the tavern... its pretty much my life.... live in the tavern and see if ne thing exciting happens ( which it usually doesnt)

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:30 pm

Well, I am not saying he did not do it. Just if you're going to post evidence against people, don't focus on sean san. I am sure that you have reasons to put the other people on the list, so where are they? If someone who was neutral read all this, I am sure they would sway after seeing evidence against sean alone.
Why is it so strange that he had a wand equipped? Even if he was training with Korn earlier, he could then equip a wand. I know that I never walk around with a bow equipped. A wand maybe.
Please list the reasons that the other people are on the list. It may help in solving this...

PS: Some of this evidence is quite vague... And why did you knock him out in the tavern?

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:48 pm

Based on the expreriments and evidence showed here. We also must think of Sean-san's past offensives there for... I do believe that sean-san has been murdering innocent civillians... Sean-san you are under arest for mass murder... you have the right to remain silent... anything you say or do can and will be used against you in the court of Illarion... You have the right to an attorney. If you can not afford one one will be supplied for you. Your trial will be set at a later date.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:52 pm

AHAAAA!!
Thinking only of his past offenses!
He is the one that just organized a good and stable government!
He may be guilty, but i suggest that we postpone "aresting" anyone until we have good proof.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Dec 03, 2001 11:39 pm

@Lord Chaos: Please read my original report document thoroughtly and completely before you repeat questions that I've answered already. I've already explained why its highly unlikely that he would be wearing a wand. Why would someone wear such inadequate protection such as a wand when he knows there is a dangerous sniper around? The only good reason I can think of is for the sake of being a "mage". But since Sean-san was practicing archery earlier, I doubt that Sean-san is that kind of a devoted "mage".

Why should I not focus my evidence on Sean? It is MY opinion that he is guilty therefore I am supporting it with evidence against him in order to convince others. If anybody else has a different opinion as to who is guilty or who is not they can post THEIR evidence and arguments.

I already stated why those people were on the list because they were there the longest and during most of the attacks. I think I've explained the evidence pretty well but if you have trouble understanding it you can ask me to explain in again here.

I told you we had a brawl. More specifically he started casting hept kels at me so I knocked him out. This is also an example that his tantrums are not just a thing of the past

Once again, PLEASE read my entire report thoroughly first.

Good luck finding any better evidence unless there's a miracle from the gods.

You know what, I think a trial would actually be fun. In fact, that way we could have a good lawyer speaking for Sean-san.

(Edited by Dyluck at 4:19 pm on Dec. 3, 2001)

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 12:43 am

It would be hard to punish Sean-san if he was found guilty. I was just joking but... a trial may increase the interest of our little town and. If Sean-san was found guilty we could not punish him. It would be interesting. by the way DO NOT KILL SEAN... he still may not be guilty

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:31 am

Quote: from Dyluck on 1:35 am on Dec. 3, 2001

Since there is no way to know for sure who the archer was I do not have solid proof of who the murderer was, but after a series of experiments and deductions I have concluded that the murderer was most likely Sean-san. Here is the evidence I have found to support this conclusion:

~
--evidence--
~

These are the six pieces of evidence that leads me to believe Sean-san is the murderer. This is my opinions and deductions so if anybody agrees or disagrees or have any better evidences feel free to voice your opinions here. Until there is further better evidences, I must now issue a warning to the people of Troll's Bane:

People of Troll's Bane should be aware that Sean-san is the prime suspect of a recent murder case. Use caution and wear adequate protection when near him.

I want to clarify that I did NOT say Sean-san IS guilty. I have ONLY said that he is the prime suspect, the one who is most likely the murderer, and supported it with my evidence. These were only MY opinions and MY evidence along with the evidence of some others who were present during the incident. I ONLY told people to be careful around him. I did NOT say he was convicted and should be killed on sight.

Galadria · Post by **Galadria** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:34 am

I´ve tried to read this long text but my english is not so good

but i understand that dyluck has written many things why Sean COULD be the Archer... there is no proof!!!

And you can´t say he is guilty because of his past, everybody deserve a second chance without beeing the first one who get suspected when something bad happens.

So if you are not sure it isn´t fair to attack him or something like that.

(Edited by Galadria at 2:38 am on Dec. 4, 2001)

(Edited by Galadria at 2:39 am on Dec. 4, 2001)

Terri · Post by **Terri** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:55 am

IMPORTANT:

I think everyone is drawing their own conclusion too fast!!! Chill down and look at the facts, Dyluck, I'm not certain if you dropped once, but I'm certain that the lizards didn't drop until the crazed attack by... #me mutters some names so quiet that no one can hear ... now that that's out of the way... Listen, I'm sure Sean died when I was still around, which means it was before the experiment. If by any chance that he is the killer among us, there were a second archer in it. I recall when I got in there about 2 mins later, I was getting shot as well. I was well out of range by the lizards, that means we can illiminate the lizards. But I think it was Seth who pulled me, which means that Seth should be clean, unless he's a terriable archer and need me to be closer, but then I was only one square beside Seth and the attack stoped, which indicates that it was on the far side, that leaves Sean and the other human male that I can't recall, terriably sorry about naming crisis. Anyhow, from there on, I grabbed a shield, so I was fine, Sean dropped a couple times, Gurok, and especially Seth dropped alot of times. Most of the time people were no where close. This brings me to conclude that either Sean is the archer and some other person is, or Sean is completely innocent. Either ways, EVERYONE becareful around the place, carry protection armors as close to hand as possible. DO NOT blame anyone for shooting arrows, they're in this place for a reason...

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:59 am

Maybe we should get a new judge. Since you personally think it is sean, you won't be willing to accept the fact that might not be him. Or you won't examine the evidence with a neutral opinion. Give us the quote in which sean said he was using a wand at the time of the attack plz.

About the tavern brawl, do you think that you used only the needed amount of force? Maybe a paralyze to start, then maybe a hept kel back, but not killing him! Maybe if it continued for a LONG time it would be alright to kill. If it did not hurt, why use unnecessary force? Or did it hurt? Then it would be alright.

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:10 am

You were the one who killed him because he through a fish at you and took a little bit of damage away... Look who's talking

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:27 am

That was when he was attacking for a long time. First he threw a fish at me, then he was casting ice fields on me for about 2 minutes and i did not use force retalliation. Then I went to the depot and he attacked me with sword. That is when I was at risk and it was doing fair damage so I had to kill or die. At the time I couldn't yet paralyze. I dont think the hept kels posed a fair threat to the Great Dyluck. (Some OOC)

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:38 am

Quote: from Dyluck on 1:35 am on Dec. 3, 2001
Since there is no way to know for sure who the archer was I do not have solid proof of who the murderer was, but after a series of experiments and deductions I have concluded that the murderer was most likely Sean-san. Here is the evidence I have found to support this conclusion:

<evidence>

These are the six pieces of evidence that leads me to believe Sean-san is the murderer. This is my opinions and deductions so if anybody agrees or disagrees or have any better evidences feel free to voice your opinions here. Until there is further better evidences, I must now issue a warning to the people of Troll's Bane:

People of Troll's Bane should be aware that Sean-san is the prime suspect of a recent murder case. Use caution and wear adequate protection when near him.

I'm going to say this one more time:
Look carefully at the the wordings of my original report!
I want to clarify that I did NOT say Sean-san is guilty. I have ONLY said that he is the prime suspect, the one who is most likely the murderer in MY opinion and I supported it with evidence (or maybe i should call them observations) that I found. I ONLY told people to be careful around him. I did NOT say he was convicted and should be killed on sight.

Gurok · Post by **Gurok** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:40 am

@Terri I did not drop once durring the whole affiar, just to let you know.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 4:48 am

Hmmmmm....
Some of those observations seem a bit off...
I would like to hear reasons that the other people on the list are there.
Just because he has been training his archery lately doesn't mean he was planning a killing spree.

But I must say that even I would conclude that sean is the prime suspect. When is the trial set for? His guilt must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt...

Btw, what's sean's motive? Maybe he had something against you (for reasons unknown), but why would he make a public event of it? I don't think sean would kill all those other people without a "reason" that he thought was reasonable.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:05 am

Ok, lets review the initial list of suspects:

Dyluck: Great record, no motive except for sean, does not kill without reason.

Gurok: I dont have much observation, Nice record in the last while, no motive.

Nik Elrah: No observations.

Rune Scape: No observations.

Sean-san: Bad long term record, Good short term record, no motive except for dyluck, Doesn't kill without a "reason".

Setherioth: Good record, no motive, nice, does not kill without reason.

Ssssssla: No observations.

I would agree that sean is the prime suspect, but it still seems hard to believe sean would do this right after his successful meeting with the guild leaders. I have kept Dyluck on here because of his possible but unlikely motive against sean about the tavern brawl. I am sure you would see him differently if you had attended Dyluck. All of the other leaders certainly respected his proposals. The sean I saw at the meeting was not the "bad boy" sean I knew earlier.

All I ask is that we follow every loose end of this case before we make any speculations. (not that you deviated from it)

So the list is narrowed down to these suspects, in order from most likely to least likely (I am not implying anything here):

Sean-san
Nik Elrah*
Rune Scape*
Ssssssla*
Dyluck

*All tied based on the fact I have no observations.
(Any possible motives between the *'s and/or others has not been considered since I have no observations)

Dyluck, please post anymore suspects you have uncovered in your investigation.

Thank You All.

(I would do bold or red or italic font if i knew how...) someone plz tell me...

(Edited by Lord Chaos at 10:08 pm on Dec. 3, 2001)

Gurok · Post by **Gurok** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:16 am

There is no need for a trial. If it happens again, then all involved will feel the wrath of the good members of Illarion until they decide to leave Illarion for good. No matter how good they were in the past or present, if this happens again, I will do everything possible to remove them from town. Whether by force or by persuasion, they will be banished. Mark my words. I have my suspects in mind, and I am watching them closely now, some more closely than others I might add.

@Rune scape.....change your name to something more realistic, its very annoying having to call you Runescape and to be serious about the whole thing.

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:39 am

Maybe sean "dropped" in 1 hit because his parry had dropped dramatically due to an earlier incident...

Explanation 1: His parry was low.
Explanation 2: He lost his shields and could not make new ones.
Explanation 3: He is a devoted mage and used a wand hoping to paralyze the killer.

A more conclusive "experiment" would have been to have someone who is hit by the arrows out, then paralyze the suspects one by one and see when the arrows stop coming.

(Explanations are unlikely, but should be considered as well)

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 6:37 am

-Explanation 2 and 3 is unlikely and would've been mentioned by Sean if it were true. Explanation 1 doesn't work because parry is how well you block an attack not how much damage you recieve from it.

-Your other experiment doesn't sound very practical

-and i remind once AGAIN that my evidence is to prove the LIKELIHOOD of Sean being the murdurer, NOT to prove that he is in fact guilty