We need more people!

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:53 pm

Welcome to the world were the GMs can make life. So why not do it?

There needs to be people in every town that arent person controlled. A very complex thing ive come up with:
Every town should have atleast 3 people:
Trollsbane: 10 CPU Citizens, 7 humans, 2 lizards, 1 elf
Greenbair: 7 CPU Citizens, 7 Halflings
Vashikar: 3 CPU Citizens, 2 orc, 1 elf
Silversomething (lol): I dont know. Something according to its size. My guess is 4 CPU citizins, 4 dwarfs

Now the Citizens have their strenths according to races:
Humans. average
Lizards. Med Strong
Elf. Med weak
Half. Weak
Orc. Strong
Dwarf. Strong

W_MW_A_MS_S

Also, certian races fight till certian times.
Humans: Fight back, if almost dead, run away
Orcs: Fight back. Half HP run away
Lizards: Fight back, run away at 3/4 hp
Dwarfs: Fight back till death
Elf: Fight back till death
Halfling: Run away instantly

Then, there is the matter of drops:
Humans: Clothes and sometimes a dagger
Orcs: The weakest cuncussion wepon
Lizards: Money and clothes and a longsword
Dwarfs: Money, Ore, and shovels and hammers
Elves: Herbs, potions, A dagger
Halfling: Clothes, cabbage seeds, a dagger

Fighting tactics:
Humans: Fight with slash/fist
Orcs: Fight with Maces
Lizards: fight with Slash-Sword
Dwarfs: fight with Crush-Hammer
Elves: Fight Slash, or in some cases weak magic
Halfling: Fight with weak magic and may spawn food to make you stop chasing him and go for the meal.

Now heres what your poboly thinking by now:
OMG WTF BBQ!!!!! YOU MAKE SOME RACES SOO MUCH EASIER AND SOME RACES DROP AWSOME SUTFF!! AND WTF YOU MAKE HALFERS SEEM LIKE GEEKS!!

True. And i dont care!
Nah. Here is the fun counter balance:

Whenever you attack a citizen, a town guard (CPU) comes and attacks YOU.
Human: "You there HUALT!!"
Orc: "Yoo nub need to lib!"
Lizard: "Zss! Comess back here NOWSS!"
Dwarf:
Inside dwarf city: "Arr! Tradior!!"
Outside: "Meh, i'll bash yer' skull in!"
Elf: "Ug, I knew this was bound to happen."
Halfling: "HI HO! Brother halfling run! Ill take care of this beast!"

Now, Town guard's quanity and quallity are based on the citizens and location:
trollsbane: 2 Human guards, 1 lizard guard.
Greenbair: 3 Halfling Guards
Vashika: 1 Orc Guard
Dwarf Town: ?? Dwarven Guards

Human: Average strenth
Lizard: Strong Strenth
Orc: Extra Strong Strenth
Elf: Strong
Halfling: Extra Strong

Othernotes:

Random Citizens should sell items. For instance a female halfling would sell flowers, Dwarf might sell some shovels and hammers at a discounted fee, etc.

I will thank you in advance for any feedback.

Josh
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Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:56 pm

You're talking about so called NPC (Non player characters) like Eliza and Sam.

It is already in work. Just be patient.

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:00 pm

Ahh realy? Thats nice!

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:06 pm

But to be honest, what has your proposal to do with roleplay?

martin · Post by **martin** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:15 pm

Let NPCs run around, fighting against monsters, earning money, and let the players be the static characters who buy and sell to and from the NPCs.

Martin

Moirear Sian · Post by **Moirear Sian** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:12 am

Aragon wrote:But to be honest, what has your proposal to do with roleplay?

More "life" in non-peak times, so some normally populated places don't look like deserts when there are three other people on-line besides yourself.

Before you shoot me down and claim NPCs have no use for roleplaying, they do, it's just up to GMs and such to give them more life on occasion, and only use few, and place them somewhat cleverly within the game. I know most people in this game know Eliza and Sam pretty well not just for filling in a technical function, but also because some life was breathed into them in certain events.

On the same note, what the hell is with Theon, who is that guy, why can he manage to survive so long with a costly artifact in a remote location in a forest?

Just my two cents.

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:58 am

Moirear Sian wrote:
Aragon wrote:But to be honest, what has your proposal to do with roleplay?
More "life" in non-peak times, so some normally populated places don't look like deserts when there are three other people on-line besides yourself.

Before you shoot me down and claim NPCs have no use for roleplaying, they do, it's just up to GMs and such to give them more life on occasion, and only use few, and place them somewhat cleverly within the game. I know most people in this game know Eliza and Sam pretty well not just for filling in a technical function, but also because some life was breathed into them in certain events.

On the same note, what the hell is with Theon, who is that guy, why can he manage to survive so long with a costly artifact in a remote location in a forest?

Just my two cents.

Exactly.
Also:
Who is going to stop him from living there? Any one who wants to mug him will get WHOOPED and also,
Insides

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:00 am

This is all being worked on extensively, and will continue to be worked on after the client. The NPC's will eventually outnumber the players even at peak hours, if our player base remains the same. The NPC's functions will include:

Training the basics in skills.
Buying and selling.
Sending players on static quests.
Keeping the pigs from being overwhelmed in the first few weeks after the wipe.
And much more. I would list some of the plans we have, but that would be telling.

Aegohl

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:08 am

Aegohl wrote: Keeping the pigs from being overwhelmed in the first few weeks after the wipe.
Aegohl

Personaly, i want to see this the most

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:02 pm

Byron, your ideas are good, but i disagree with your suggestions for the npcs. Humans would vary in strength and how they fight, as well as response.
Soem fight with magic, some run like babies, some fight with swords, ect, and their drops would be totally random. Elves should mostly be druid types, magic users, and carchers, with a few outliers in there. Orcs I agree on, with maybe a shaman or two mixed in. Most halflings would run, but a few would be able to fight. Lizards are probably going to use any type of weapon, but very few would have magic. You get ym point.

And i cant wait for npcs going around and outnumbering people. Especially if gms are on more often and sometimes take control of them.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:55 am

Lizards are probably going to use any type of weapon, but very few would have magic.

Never heared of the Tanora priests have you?

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:53 pm

According to Moonsilver, most lizard people have no interest in magic. But the ones that do practice it are damn good.

IMO, it would be great to have more NPCs. You can at least interact with a fake being rather than living in a ghost town every night, with 3 people people on at most.

I think more than anything though, players need something to do besides talk, fight, and do crafts.

Mimblethorp · Post by **Mimblethorp** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:57 pm

I love this idea. My only caution is spam. Already, if you are near Sam and trying to have a conversation it is difficult but if the NPCs outnumber the players, move about town and are as chatty as Sam is, spam could become a huge detrement to the game. But if the spam is kept to a minimum or if the spammy NPCs are kept to specific areas (like Sam) I think more NPCs would rock and I encourage players to treat them as PCs. If you see a player attack an NPC, run for the town guards

Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:09 pm

The new NPC will only talk when someone starts talking to them. So no spam like Sam and Eliza anymore