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Guard Report - Karmane

Post by Alora Ironforge »

Alora walks up to the wall with a huge poster sized drawing of a human, below it reads:


Attention Good Citizen's of Trolls Bane

After much time, answers have finally arose about the death of our good friend Mia, now known as Angel Mia by some. Along with a dwarf, only killed because he beared witness.

Even thou he denies it, like most criminals do, Karmane, also known as Konstantin or Kurtis Kerner, trainer of many criminals like Thaseus and Kale, former weaponsmith of Northerot/Callahorn, trained himself by Himasyn Zhylliolom, was behind the death of this poor soul.

Without so much as a word he cut her down in her prime, While she was unarmed and did nothing more then sew clothes at her depot. Seems that there was no known reasons until, i would say a miracle happened, Mia and Irania confronted each other in the square....and Irania learned of Mia's death. At which time she expressed remorse, realizing threw there conversation that it was Mia's blood that coursed threw her veins.

It seems Mia was killed for her blood...a dark ritual was performed in which Mia's blood was used to revive Irania from the afterlife.

So i say this to the townsfolk of Trolls Bane, and all who read this wall.
I plead to the Elfs, Dwarfs, Halflings, humans and lizards.

Do not help this man. Do not house this man. Do not accompany this man.
Do not allow your children to run the streets at night and be sure all windows and doors are locked.

If you see this man, please report him to the nearest guard or send dove as we will be tracking his movements. Upon capture, he will be sentenced to hard time in prison.


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My warnings never work.

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A tragic happening to someone who has been doing positive things for the island.

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Post by Ceigan Ibatha »

The Prancing Magenta Troll of Madness still lurks as well!

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Post by The Night's Own »

Some eyes are blind to your orders.
Some deaf to your pleads.
Do your own work, Ironforge.
And when will you be appointed for your crimes?
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Post by Willum »

To the writer with the strange mark,

First i have never seen alora commit a crim. Second you should not speak about things you most likely have no idea about what they are.


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Post by Konstantin K »

Why does nobody remember a fact that Karmane was killed by Galim, when he was trying to walk away from a battle?

By posting this warning, you are now forcing this man to attack everyone in town. You better take this sign down, because now he knows that the whole town is against him, and will do nasty things to everyone in sight.

Just a guess.

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Post by BlackStar »

Why does nobody remember a fact that Karmane was killed by Galim
Is this something for him to be proud of?
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Post by Malvita Rynal »

A message is written sloppily, as if the right-handed writer wrote it left-handed to mask his handwriting.

The dwarf condemns an act of inhumanity, and speaks of a dark ritual. The race of dwarves are quick to deside what is right and wrong, especially concerning the dark arts. Throughout the history of the town, both Silverbrand and the Grey Rose have persecuted those helped by Necromacy, but I have yet to hear any complaints when Earl Aragon is raised from the dead, only days before a Necromancer waltzes into town and summons unholy hell upon it's inhabitance. I see the guard only condemns what is not in their favor.

Though I wish to not protect this common criminal, if he would take this paper as a reason to kill, given what the writer above stated, then he is either insane, or ignorant and should be locked away or have his blood spilled on the streets.

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Post by Kasume »

Once trust is lost.
It's hard to gain back.
Near impossible.
I would not even try.
No matter the supporters, trust will never be fully respected with this man.

It's what I suggest to you all. If killing a friend meant something to gain for himself, he will do it.

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Post by Rand Kalhan Al'Vega »

This is Blassphemy. It is horrible that Karmane did this.. but. no one can deny that love is blind. he did this to resurect Irainia.
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Post by Galim »

And the criminals gather around the townwall. Perhaps the guard should stand here and take care of you all.


Unsigned writer, why do you not mention too that Karmane ran away from the guard who wanted to take him peacefully to the jail, and not to fight him? Of course we don't want to mention too that he threat short before he ran away that you could kill every guard and drain the town in blood.
I just assisted the townguard who asked me for my help when the criminal ran away.
He entered again the town. don't await that we beliefe his story of a boat. Everyone could say that he have one. Next time tell the full story.

To the man with the strange mark. Your words are the words of a criminal or one of the not trustworthy peoples of this Isle. You know nothing, so be quiet. Your attemps on this wall are a joke.

To the concerned citizen. Aragon was not resurrected by a ritual, or a ceremony. His god Malachin send him back. I was witness and saw what happened. To call it an act of necromany means to insult the god Malachin.

There is a difference between a ritual of a necromancer and a holy ritual of a priest to pray for the gods goodness. The necromancer "steal" the dead one from the other world. The priest pray and please the god to send him back.


If this man starts to kill the innocents of the town because of this, he shows that he is really the danger and the dark hearted man we talked about. That he is the criminals and should be brought to justice.

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Post by Konstantin K »

Galim, you are full of assumptions and lies, like Alora.
You fail to see, because you are either blind or stupid.
You must be blind, since casting fires takes intelligence.

John Irenicus gave me two choices - either fight him there, or go to prison.

Prisons and walls suffocate me, it is like a slow death for me. Better quick than slow. I wanted no blood, so I chose to run.

As of my threat - you are making it look like a threat, having the weak and the dumb believe you.
This is how it was:

I said "I will enter this town anyway, because I am not dangerous."

When Irenicus drew his axe towards my head,
I said: "I will not fight you, because I want no blood. But I am not a coward. I am not weak either. I CHOOSE not to harm anyone, but not because I am weak. If I wanted, I could drown this town in blood, but I choose not to do this, because I am not a killer"

Those were my words. Believe it or not.

But you burnt me. And then you ruined Irania. She died because of you.
THAT called for what was done. It was the only way to do this, since the Power of Cross could not resurrect her.


As for thief and assassin, Galim you are an empty-worded liar, so shut your trap, or name me AT LEAST ONE name of a victim I killed for money.
Name ONE ITEM I stolen.

NAME them, before calling me these words.

If you fools do not stop this madness, I AM GOING TO BECOME what you are saying. I WILL ACT UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

This is not a threat either. All I am saying is I have no choice. You put up a word to all citizens - to attack me. And I cannot run away from every single person without ever returning a shot back.
So, if attacked, I may kill someone.

Call this crap off, and let us negotiate like civilized people.
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Post by Kasume »

Negotiation and talk seemed to have been forgotten by you.

I was killed by YOU within the town walls.
And you expect a warm welcome. I may not be the most respected man in the town, but killing not only I, and Mia, without explanation or maybe perhaps questions to make a compromise.

Do not say that you want to "negotiate" and "talk" about this.
You kill innocents.
What is there to negotiate about?

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Post by Galim »

Alora is one of the most kindest persons i know. I won't speak of me in this way because it is not honorable to speak well about himself. Your lies about me are pityfull. The poor attemp to make you better than you are.

YOU ruined Irania. The time i heard she is with you I spoke with her, told her that this will means no good for her. It was YOU nearness which ruined that poor girl. If you would concern just a little bit for her, you would have took the possibility to go to the jail. But no, you ran away. No single thought lost for her. Just for your own. That is pityfull.

Her "love" to you was her ruin. I tried my best to safe her when she ran to the mummies and let herself killed. But i wasn't able to help her...and i still feel bad for it. I tried my best but it was not in my power.

It is YOU who made her die! You just don't want to see the truth.


Call me a liar as much as you want, out of your mouth it means nothing. Of course a criminal like you use his own lies to safe himself. It is no wonder that just you and the criminals with you think like this.


Name them? Kasume and Mia? At least Mia? there you have a name. Stolen? The dagger of Lennier. Yes, we know that was you. The man who called himself Kerner, you told Alora once in the past that you are this man. It was YOU who stolen Earl Lenniers dagger!

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Love IS blind, but her goddess is not
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Post by The Night's Own »

Dear Galim,
there are people deaf to your orders as well.
I will remain silent, as I have been so far, but I will not cease to pester you with written words of unfathomable truths.
Those of you who vouch against Karmane here and truly believe you are innocent, are the one whose attempts in writing are a "joke". You are the ones who fail to realize that murder is murder, and killing is killing. But of course, if you have a reason, or if you are on the right side of a law, your killing is suddenly justified and noble.
So be it that you condemn another man to a life outcast of town without any second thought. But if you are oh-so-noble, dear Bishop Galim, then why doesn't your highness in priesthood trust in his God, and vouch to give a criminal yet another chance to prove himself?
Oh, now I am untruly sorry I wrote that. I forgot that you probably like to see blood flow. Perhaps you like barbaric confrontations, and perhaps you like selling your tools of destruction and war. Perhaps you should reconsider your faith, for you may have chosen the wrong God to worship, and perhaps Moshran or Cherga would appeal more to you than Irmorom. At least, decide whether you are weaponsmith, or bishop; the latter would lend to more credibility on your behalf.
I have kindly decided to refrain from further pestering the merry bunch here. You Galim, the former thugs Kasume and Willum, and even Alora, who have each and altogether probably raised their weapons at others at least as many times as Karmane. I assume your rest at night is plagued enough by your own personal memories, as it is. If not, then you are just as cold-blooded as those who you accuse - be it with reason or not - you shan't have a right to call yourself noble. After all, Galim and Willum, you decided to name me a criminal, unknowing, and untrustworthy, after reading a single piece of parchment of mine. Judging rashly, as lying, are indications of a weak mind.
Yours truly,
the one with the strange mark,
the one whose attempts at these walls are a "joke",
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Post by Galim »

Galim reads the paper and laughs

You know how to write, strange mark, but that is all.

I sleep well in the night, but I am not cold-blooded. That is alone your opinion, and it doesn't count for me. I never raised my weapon against innocents, until now my enemys I fought against have deserved it.

Of course it is justified when we fight as the good side against criminals and evil. To think something other makes you a fool or a criminal on your own. But of course peoples like you wouldn't understand it. Or accept it.

The criminals and evil ones complain every time when they got defeated, but they never say anything when they do their crimes.

No, I don't like it to see blood. And I don't like it to fight. But I am no fool who would never raise a weapon to defeat the evil ones or the criminals, or who would never fight to protect others.
When this means that i have to get dirty with the blood of criminals, to protect the innocent, than i will take this fate. But I won't just watch when help is needed to protect in what me and many others believe. To protec what peoples like you try to destroy.

To say that cherga is a goddess who wants to see blood shows how few you understand of our gods and religion. Shame on you. Not i chosen my god, the great Worldsmith chosen me. Who am I that i could "chosen" a GOD? Judge who fits me, who could be best for me or not. To chose a god because he presents something you like is not the right way.

Irmorom himself made us dwarves and given us the fire of Bragon so that we could change the world, craft and make items. He brought the art of forge to us. With his will we were able to forge weapons and armors. To protect us against the evil, the ones without righteousness. Peoples like you.

My "Tools of war" Are tools for protection too. To fight for what you believe, to fight to safe the lifes of innocents, to defeat the evil powers in our world. That you don't see this side explains me alot. You don't want to see this side of weapons and armors.
But I want to hear you when the horde stands infront of you, or a Troll chase you. If you will damn my tools of destruction too when they save your life.
Not the weapons are evil and dangerous. The peoples using them for the bad are.
And even the evil ones have the right to defend themself against creatures and monsters wanting their life.

Yes, I fought many times, and i am proud of it. Many times i fought for this town, to protect it and their citizens. I was many times near death, was it to stop an attack of ogres, trolls, skeletons or the evil demons in Darloks dungeons.

Maybe you are not a criminal in your deeds, but someone who sympathize for them.


All you can do is to abuse words, spinning lies, calumnies and make misstatements. Your truth is a net out of your own lies brought to us with good penmanship.

I am not good in penmanship, but every of my simple words holds more honesty than your whole letter. All you can do is making misstatements and trying to let the other one look bad. How pityfull.


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Post by Erzakh Bru'gol »

me not likes yous arguments Galim..

yous says you no wants spoil blood.. and then yous says yous be prouds of it? killings be killings there no be difference

and me bes surprised that yous definition of good be the only one..
yous ever thougths about that others thinks what yous do is bad?
who sais yous be on the goods side? if this be only you and your comrades i dont think that to be corrects..

me really not likes the ways how yous put everyone thats spoke up for Karmane in bads light.. yous fear that there might be some truth in their sayings? or why do you pick on thems so hard? if youd be sure about what youre saying yous wouldnt needs to do that..
it only shows how much you personally have agains Karmane.. and thats lets me think abouts the truth of the accusations..

to bes honest yous writings only make me wants meets Karmane myselfs.. yous really made me curious abouts him!

me no wants to interfere with yous or the towns guards business.. but bes sure you not made any goods advertisement for yous and the guard..

me hopes that yous stop such behaviours soon.. or me might think about Trolls Bane and its inhabitants once more.. and that wouldnts be so goods for yous.. be sure about thats!

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Post by John Irenicus »

Karmane was killed by Galim and me because he acted againat direct orders of myself. He had his chance and didn't take it, so this was the only way to proceed.
Nothing more to add.

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If you read carefully what I wrote, Galim, all I did was put things in question. I hereby state that I find it shameful there are not more citizens here who are voicing their opinions on this, because in the essence of my writings, and other people's writings, there is a central question which remains unanswered: Why should common townsfolk risk their lives for the work of officials?
You blame me of sympathizing with - "criminals"? I do not know much of this man aside from rumors, hear-say and what is written here, therefore you cannot blame me of sympathizing with criminals. I do trust the Town Guard as far as all the accusations towards this man are not lies - but I am concerned about the other people, not this criminal. By all means - take him down. But don't endanger innocent bystanders in the process. Do you seriously want to blame me of sympathizing with - living creatures? Then Galim, you accuse me of exercising my free will, and of speaking my mind in the written form. I do not make differences here, as I believe everybody's entitled to their own opinion. But I do make differences when it comes to the very lives of any living being.
As for me spreading lies and misstatements, you should just try to read between my lines. I was recently wondering if I should not assist the Trolls the next time they attack. I sure know they won't be covering this island with industry, like some murderers walking freely in town. But according to you, I am so forlorn and misguided that whatever I say and do, it's wrong. So I guess I'll just do nothing that could perk your interest, other than plague you with the written word; it does appear you desire it. But whatever you say and think about me, I take care of those things that you neglect. But all you do in concern to me is - well, you try to insult me, fail miserably, and make assumptions. All of which you project onto me. Anybody who can read between the lines, will see that I've never insulted anybody; I've only stated the things that some people don't want to read, and I've thrown questions into the round that are not being answered.
So I need not write here evermore.
Our writings still stand on the walls for all to judge.
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Post by Vurhel »

A solitary man who fights against those who merely seek a convenient rationalization to accuse him of crimes.

Yet they are the real criminals.

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Konstantin would be assasin, you never got a job because the people in this town prefer dealing with things themselves. However was it not you, that offered to kill Elaralith for me in return for a small portion of gold that was being saved to build a temple! Of course I refused outright, but no doubt you approached many others who rebuked you aswell.

For what you did to Mia, you deserve worse than death, you deserve to be locked up, alone for the rest of your life, untill finally, when you are old and decrepid, you are released, only then will you have been suitably punished for your crimes.

It was you that killed Irania, it was you that made her kill herself, in an attempt to be with you in an afterlife, however, you chose to come back, and left her behind. Then when you found out what you had done, you took the life of another innocent girl, and for what? An unholy life for the woman you claimed to have loved. You killed her friend and stole her blood, to bring her back to life, you have hurt her more than anyone else ever could have, now that she knows that she should not be, you tore her soul from the afterlife, and for what? So you can live as an outlaw, hide in the forests the rest of your life, no friends, no family, I couldn't imagine you hiding very well, or running away if Irania had a babe with her. You disgust me, your no man, you are a leach, you steal the happiness from others to bring joy to yourself for a very small ammount of time.

Konstantin has had many many chances, he has seen Cherga's realm three times now, his soul is hollow and empty, and mysterious writer. Howdare you insult Cherga's name by placing it beside that of the Bone Lord. The goddess of souls does not revel in bloodshed, she prefers balance and justice.

I have yet to hear of Karamane doing a single unslefish act, rasing Irania was selfish, he didn't think that perhaps she might want to stay in the realms of dead, and remain in a peaceful rest, instead her tore her soul back into the world of the living, so he could be with her.

The the unkown writer, how long have you been on this island? Are you friends with Karamane, have you ever met him, or perhaps you are just arguing against the gaurds and Galim, because it makes you feel good, being able to rebel against the gaurds, trying to damage thier names, but all you are is a coward, if you had any courage, you would place your name with your paper.

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Irania tries to read through all the babbling yet grows bored with it, walking away.
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Post by The Night's Own »

I am not a coward.
I have always signed with my name.
In your tongues it means "The Night's Own".
But I think my mark, or the name Night shall suffice.
As I said, the walls speak for themselves.
But let me clarify some things.
If you feel like making me to be your scourge and scapegoat - and don't you people feel stupid for repeatedly and falsely accusing me of being a criminal, while this is noted unter the picture of Karmane? - you're making a big mistake, because you're wasting your time. I've defended these town walls against onslaughts of horrific beasts, just like a Guard, thus meaning I've also defended people like some of you. Not only that, I did not row myself up with wanted criminals and outcasts who then stood up and asked for reward and redemption. I just went my own way again.
And there are still townsfolk who are still murdering trees, at assenine numbers.
Thank you for your attention.
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