Lose the Names - every time I log out i lose all names

Fate · Post by **Fate** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 11:05 am

I have got a big problem. When I learn new names and log out next time I see the numbers again and everybody is unknown again.

I have got win2k, illarion is installed under c:\illarion

I see the names.dat file in the char-folder.

in the names file all names are in (I opened with wordpad)

Is there any known possibility?

At the moment i wrote all names with number on a sheet of paper, but there are pretty much of them......

Galin · Post by **Galin** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 7:16 pm

It doesn't seem as bad if you have watched them for around five minutes without them going out of your sight if you do often times you will remember their names its a memory system just like mine in RL *grins*.

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 7:36 pm

Do you have a subfolder with your character name with a names.dat in it?

KillerX · Post by **KillerX** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 12:49 am

I"m having the same problem, and yes the folder with the .dat files exist. If you were to load it up in notepad, it shows the naems, but when you encounter the people, they don't display. Also, Bror, have you got a chance to look at the water bucket bug I notified you of?

Captain Kirk · Post by **Captain Kirk** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 12:15 pm

Hallo

please when you post here tell more about your pc (windows version and so on)
thx

Bye
Read ya
MfG

Capt. Kirk

Fate · Post by **Fate** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 3:45 pm

So dear Captain if you read my post again, you will find all you requested ;o)

@Bror: I do have the names.dat file in the characters subfolder.
What I do not understand is, the map is displayed perfect, which means all land I have allready walked is shown.
I have tried it from n NTSF and an FAT32 partition..... everything is running fine...
only that f..... names arent displayed ;o(

Maybe I have to change something with the names.dat file?

I do have an idea: Bror can u send me an names.dat file, like it should be?

I will copy it into my directory...then we will see if mine is wrong or there is a prob with my system.

can there be a problem with some signs? because whenn i open some are displayed as squares.

here is my e-mail just in case: fate@lords-of-highland.com

an unhappy Fate

Terri · Post by **Terri** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:09 pm

I can't see names also...

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:43 pm

@Fate: better send the names.dat file to me (email deleted).

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:51 pm

Just delete your names.dat file. Back it up somewhere else. you now need to be re-introuce by the others, the program will write its own names.dat.
If you modify it or sometimes when you get thrown out without using esc, it is damaged.

Captain Kirk · Post by **Captain Kirk** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 4:46 am

Hallo

i didnt meant you fate but all other posters (includes following posters with the same prob)

Bye
Read ya
MfG

Capt. Kirk

Cosmaterra · Post by **Cosmaterra** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:43 pm

hmm...i got the same problems since a few days,...maybe since the update,...my names.dat is 1,42 kb big i got it in the folders and everywere it grows if i got new names but when i loggin i got no names ,..same way as fate,...i also worked whit w2k or somestimes xp ,..if i find the reason fpr it i will post here,...but there are many player which got the same prob..

greetz cosmaterra

Arja · Post by **Arja** » Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:04 am

I have that problem too:(
When i log out and then come in again, i have forgotten all the names i knew.
The only difference between me and fate is that i don't even have the players numbers to refer to.
My names.dat contains all the names of the people i know, but not their numbers

I have a win 2000 advanced server os...
I have Illarion on a win 98se too.
Should i try to copy the names.dat file from my win 98 to win 2000 pc that doesn't work?
I read lots of messages on this board but i'm still not sure what to do...

Thanks in advance for your help....
And to those who know me i ask to have patience if i come in and don't recognise them ...
Bye
Arja

Quote: from Fate on 11:05 am on Oct. 15, 2001
I have got a big problem. When I learn new names and log out next time I see the numbers again and everybody is unknown again.

I have got win2k, illarion is installed under c:\illarion

I see the names.dat file in the char-folder.

in the names file all names are in (I opened with wordpad)

Is there any known possibility?

At the moment i wrote all names with number on a sheet of paper, but there are pretty much of them......

Avenarius · Post by **Avenarius** » Mon Jan 28, 2002 5:24 pm

Hello,

is now found a solution for the problems with the names?

its because i have still the problem:
use win2000.

is it possible, that the problem is, by install the game i took lang. german and now
the game is in english... all items....

its possible, that the game couldnt get the names.dat because in german is an other name
for this file?

ty in advance
Avenarius

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:52 pm

No, this isn't possible.

Captain Kirk · Post by **Captain Kirk** » Thu Jan 31, 2002 9:04 pm

Hallo

can you tell something about your filesystems you have on your pc ? (i think only a few w2k users have the problem with the names)
if you have the name loss-problem take a look at your filesystems
normally w2k uses NTFS but if you have w9x on your pc too have fatxx partitions too

right click at drive c or d or .... and click then at properties (do this with each partition)
now you can see what kind of filesystem(s) you have on your pc

Bye
Read ya
MfG

Capt. Kirk

Avenarius · Post by **Avenarius** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 2:02 pm

Hello,

all drives are NTFS.

i tried to install the game another time.. no change.

if i open the file names with my editor i can see all names. but i think the program can´t only
get the names if i will go online.

i hope we will find a solution.

greetings
Avenarius

Shi Long · Post by **Shi Long** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 3:58 pm

i also use win 2000 prof, but i have no problems with the names and map files... but...

maybe some programs in the background check the files or a antivirus program opens the files and then they are changed or something, but this are only speculations...

(Edited by Shi Long at 4:03 pm on Feb. 2, 2002)

Rugosch · Post by **Rugosch** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 8:03 pm

The problem also exist on Win XP.

Sherwood, a friend of mine, use this operating system.

Is the problem found?

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 10:01 pm

I'll search for the problem when the new version comes out, so there is no need to add to this thread the whole time.

Peregrin · Post by **Peregrin** » Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:12 pm

Ein Punkt, der Dir beim suchen helfen koennte Bror:
Ich hatte den Eindruck, wenn das passiert ist, dass er die Namen zwar im Unterordner speichert, aber eine leere names.dat im Hauptverzeichnis ausliest. Manchmal kommt es in dem Zusammenhang auch vor, dass direkt im Hauptordner gespeichert wird, also alle neuen Chars gleich die names.dat und map der alten mit haben.
Wie das mit dem System zusammenhaengt hab ich noch nicht rausgefunden - manchmal war es und blieb auch nach Windows-neuinstallation, manchmal wars einfach weg. Das ganze ist uebrigens auch mit win98SE schon aufgetaucht.

Korso · Post by **Korso** » Wed Feb 13, 2002 12:38 am

Tja, ein junger Zwerg mit Alzheimer... Was für ein schlechtes Bild...

Ich habe das selbe beobachtet. ein neu erstellter Charakter hat die Karte des alten gesehen. Die Karten im hauptordner werden anstelle der Karten im Charakterordner verwendet. Meine names.dat beinhaltet zwar namen, allerdings keine nummern...

Ich hätte da noch eine Frage: In welcher Sprache ist Illarion eigentlich programmiert und wäre es möglich an Teile des Sourcecodes heranzukommen?

Ich benutze W2000Prof, IllarionClient #22.

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Wed Feb 13, 2002 12:35 pm

Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, daß es eine names.dat ohne Nummern gibt.
Illarion ist in C++ programmiert.
An Teile des Sourcecodes kann man sicher rankommen, z.B. durch einen Einbruch bei mir (Adresse auf Anfrage). Auf normalem Wege, kommt es darauf an, wofür du ihn haben willst, und was für Teile du sehen willst. Ich habe schon mal Teile herausgegeben.

Korso · Post by **Korso** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 1:11 pm

Thema Namen:
Also, bei mir klappt das jetzt mit den Namen:
Hab Illarion neu installiert (nicht überinstalliert, das alte vorher entfernt) und dann einfach die karte und die names.dat aus der alten installation aus meinem charakterordner in das neue Illarion verzeichnis kopiert. Da ich nur einen Charakter besitze, funktioniert das ganze jetzt richtig gut (Alzheimer Ade!).

Thema Sourcecode:
Ich besorge mir dann ein paar andere Zwerge. Deine Adresse gibts auf Anfrage? Gut, dann gib mal

Lege am besten das Listing als CD an einen sichtbaren Ort, dann kannste grössere Schäden vermeiden...
Ich bin interessiert an den Grafikroutinen, DirectDraw und Co. Wenn du mir da ein paar Hinweise/Routinen o.ä. schicken könntest, wär ich Dir sehr dankbar. (Korso@siato.de)

PS: Bror, hast recht. Meine names.dat stimmt... hab mich verguckt.
#me stellt sich in die ecke und schämt sich...

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:17 pm

Vor langer Zeit, es ist schon ein paar Monate her, hatte ich das Problem mit dem Verlieren der Namen auch, konnte es aber mit einer Notlösung gut überwinden.
Wie hier schonmal gesagt wurde, sieht es so aus, als ob das Programm lieber die Dateien aus dem Hauptverzeichnis nimmt als die der Char-Ordner.´Als das Problem bei mir vorlag, habe es gelöst, in dem ich die Dateien der Char-Ordner in das Hauptverzeichnis kopierte. Die Char-Ordner hab ich dannach, weil sie überflüssig wurden gelöscht. Was der Nachteil dabei ist, dass man dannach mit jedem Char die selbe Karte benutzt, alsauch die selbe Namensliste.
Auch wenn ich später neue Chars erschaffen hab, wodurch neue Char-Ordner ertsellt wurden, benutzten die neuen Chare ebenfalls die Dateien des Hauptverzeichnisses.

Mfg.