Druid Decoy Potion? - What do ye think?

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Sun Jul 21, 2002 7:24 pm

Druids are at disadvantage to mages, long time subject. so...why not make a decoy potion to avoid attacks by magic, a sort of smoke potion when used makes a smoke barrier around the person whom it is used on, blinding there abilities and allowing a getaway by a druid, but it has to be throwable..

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:01 am

hmmm, well the idea seems plausable and has some merit. Maybe if you could explain it better as we do not know the details as to what you are thinking. Would you mean that if it was thrown it would engulf a few squares in smoke? And if somebody is standing in it or if it is in the way of the object wished to be casted upon it would bring up the message saying "You can't see there"? I think the general idea of a potion that could temporarily inhibit or affect casting abilities. If we brainstorm this some more we might be able to work out all the details and possibly think of a better way to exucute it other then smoke.

Chyan Guo Messenger · Post by **Chyan Guo Messenger** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:40 am

Druids,
-they are able to keep drinking potions and healing as long they are not stuffed all the way.
In the mean time, the stronger the healing potion, the less it you have to drink, the more you heal before you are stuffed sick.potion that gives Immunity for a few seconds... say around 10-would be acceptable, but likewise, they can be quite powerful in a battle since most likely they out last you. Mages can heal, but mana runs out, thats their disadvangtage, druids just get stuffed. Its quite even. As for your throwing, when i entered a game, i always wondered was there a "potion bomb". yes, you throw it, but it damages, you may throw the potion to cause the area to be in flames like "ra sij" or poison gas like "yeg jus" and even ice vapor "hept sij".
How it damages and what it use to damage (explosion or fire) is up to the Illarion team to decide what is fair.

Teesh · Post by **Teesh** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 7:44 pm

@Chyan: there already was a discussion about potions that druids can make. I think that many folks dont like the idea of exploding potions (any kind of these), because this makes an important difference between druids and mages. Druids are rather more peaceful than mages i think. Well, more often after all. I once proposed an exploding potion myself, but im still not sure what to think about it. For now i agree there should by one. Also at this time i think the problems with archers-snipers is enough. We should wait for a server update. Imagine if an exploding potion has been thrown on you, it explodes, you get hurt - how would you know who threw it?

@Mannelig: I like that idea too. But i'll repeat after Setherioth, please explain, do you mean a smoke cloud that will make one invulnereable or just an invulnerability potion?

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 10:10 pm

Smoke cloud.

Chyan Guo Messenger · Mon Jul 22, 2002 10:26 pm

@Mannelig
about your attack part, you can poison your opponet with beer.

@Teesh
i told you, however they want the potions effect is up to them, i never said make them appear NOW.

here is a proposal about how you will dectect who shot you, based on skill perception. You perception will give a range of idenification and sence. If you have lets say high perception, you have a far range of sencing power, so when someone shoot you from trees from somewhere, (somehow you will see his location, perhaps by a signal, a .... target box on his location or something, im not sure, up to the team again) and you can see his location and even ID him for a sec. Lower your perception, lower your range to detect, which means you may have to wonder closer before your character "see" him. i mean, if that attacker is somehow even in plain sight, then your character might even ID him like

He says: #555555 shot at you.
up to them to decide about that and make it "fair".

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 11:49 pm

this is not YOUR perosnall proposel post, please make your elsewhere and sotp bothering me.
The otion doe snot harm anyone it makes a smokescreen so that the mage cannot see the druid whom he is about to attack.
yes it will say "You cant see there"

Chyan Guo Messenger · Post by **Chyan Guo Messenger** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 1:37 am

its "p e r s o n a l" and "p r o p o s a l".

its "s t o p" and "n o t i o n"
what is a "doe snot?" ("does not" right?)
(too busying trying scolding me to type right eh?)
Get something straight, i can care less what they do to druid, its their choise, as for my suggestion or "proposal" was only toward Teeshes statement of:
"Also at this time i think the problems with archers-snipers is enough. "
and how it can be delt. (might as well add it while im at it.)

i was informing you that druids are able to attack, and from what i heard, if done right quite effective, and where did i say i object to anything about your smokescreen.
You should try stop talking out of your end and more with mouth. Dont be too busy biting my head off and dont try to swallow what you can't chew. By the way, public forum, opened to everyone, and everything.
as for the part about suggesting it elsewhere, it will do.

(Edited by Chyan Guo Messenger at 7:43 am on July 23, 2002)

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 5:05 pm

Why are you guys fighting? It's just stupid.

@Chyan - you said before that druids should be more peaceful, yet when were talking about harmless ways to defend, you start talking about attacking potions that can be thrown, that doesn't seem very peaceful.

@everybody - the idea is still good, and it would help it, because even though you were talking about how druids just need to keep drinking potions, and mages can cast heals. Potions (especially strong heal) is more expensive then mana which can recharge just by eating a fish.

Chyan Guo Messenger · Post by **Chyan Guo Messenger** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 5:58 pm

"Teesh Posted on 7:44 pm on July 22, 2002
@Chyan: there already was a discussion about potions that druids can make. I think that many folks dont like the idea of exploding potions (any kind of these), because this makes an important difference between druids and mages. Druids are rather more peaceful than mages i think. "
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From Setherioth:
"@Chyan - you said before that druids should be more peaceful, yet when were talking about harmless ways to defend, you start talking about attacking potions that can be thrown, that doesn't seem very peaceful. "
um..........
.......i didnt say it, it was said at me.
again, you can make more attacks to potions other than poisoning.... and by the way, fish and food takes time, its slow, in a battle when your being bombarded by attacks and slashes, its best to heal fast, and druids have 2 types of healing potions, there is no "strong heal" for mages. (exect raising dead, when its perfected)

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 8:17 pm

Chayan, or whatever the hell your name is...
"to busy scolding me to type, eh?"
first of all, english is my THIRD language, and I cant spell it very well. Now tha tI liv ein england I am getting better. Second of all, you off topic ninty percent of your topics, so please go to the main board and post "off topic to ___" at least then we dont hae to liste to your useless chattering along.

Chyan Guo Messenger · Post by **Chyan Guo Messenger** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 8:40 pm

"I think your the PK chyan goo goo doll.
First of all, I've seen your number, your definatly a powergamer yourself. You talk back about things you cannot understand, and Lloyds dead, or did you not understand that part either, he left, gone, bye bye. I happen to be one of his friends, so if you want to meet somewheres outside of this game, I will whoop your bleeding ungratefull arse all o'er England!

now I feel better."
"your not defending newbies, your putting down older players. "

"this is not YOUR perosnall proposel post, please make your elsewhere and sotp bothering me.
The otion doe snot harm anyone it makes a smokescreen so that the mage cannot see the druid whom he is about to attack.
yes it will say "You cant see there" "

"Chayan, or whatever the hell your name is...
"to busy scolding me to type, eh?"
first of all, english is my THIRD language, and I cant spell it very well. Now tha tI liv ein england I am getting better. Second of all, you off topic ninty percent of your topics, so please go to the main board and post "off topic to ___" at least then we dont hae to liste to your useless chattering along.
____________________________________
Your post to my post, from my opinion on lloyd and opinions on his actions, to suggestions and ideas of druids.
You said it yourself best, ---- your useless chattering along?

(Edited by Chyan Guo Messenger at 2:45 am on July 24, 2002)

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 10:01 pm

are you to stupid to notice that thsoe are replies to your post, now please get off my post or I will ask for a moderator to delete all your post son it and prevent them into the near future.

Chyan Guo Messenger · Tue Jul 23, 2002 10:23 pm

"are you to stupid to notice that thsoe are replies to your post, now please get off my post or I will ask for a moderator to delete all your post son it and prevent them into the near future."

good job sherlock,
i take it your too stupid to read the last part....or what?
goes like this:

(all your quotes)
_________________
(my part)
"Your post to my post...."

(Edited by Chyan Guo Messenger at 4:25 am on July 24, 2002)

Ellaron · Post by **Ellaron** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:31 pm

Changing the subject back again. I like the idea of a smoke screen potion. It means you cant be attacked and can't attack while you're in it. The only problem I can see, apart from the coding, is the chance it might be missused by someone eg a druid smacks someone upside the head, runs off and smokescreens his way out of trouble, but lets face it most things in the game can be missused if you take the time to think about it. I don't like the idea of exploding potions. If you want that sort of firework display become a mage.

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:48 pm

We don't have enough potions yet... Smoke potions sound interesting.
I give my vote for this (or positive comment) so it has a chance of becoming...
REALITY...

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 8:52 pm

wow, the legendary merchant Erdrick!
thanks!

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 4:57 am

don't forget old....the legendary old merchant Erdick :biggrin: You're welcome Erdick =)

(Edited by Setherioth at 11:01 pm on July 27, 2002)

Sir Aragonius · Post by **Sir Aragonius** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:40 pm

I also really like the idea of the smoke potion, and maybe there could be made some changes in the way the poison works. It could be funny if we were able to poison some food.

Chyan and Sean/Lasokie/ Lloyd/ Mannelig, or whatever plz stop your arguement, you're disturbing this topic.

Mannelig · Post by **Mannelig** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:28 pm

I AM ONLY MANNELIG DAMMIT!

The Nameless one · Post by **The Nameless one** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 9:32 pm

i also love the idea about the smoke potion the druids are peace wiht nature right? so then why cant they summon a pack of wolves or transform into a bear/wolf or eny other creature or grow a barrier of trees and bushes too stop his enemy from reaching him but too grow things it would have too be on some sort of terrain where it could grow

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 1:55 pm

Bottling Magic:
The following is a way in which I think druids could protect themselves.

A druid could place an empty bottle on the ground beside them.
They could then ask a mage friend of theirs to fill the bottle with a spell.
Maybe not a powerful spell, but on like ra-kel, or tah-sav…
The druid could then throw the bottled spell at an enemy…

Yes, I am fully aware of previous posts saying that druids are peaceful peoples,
But I am sure, that if a druid is being beaten senselessly by an evil mage, then that druid might like to be able to throw a spell at them and hope for the best.

Here is a mini-diagram of how it might work.

Mage=M
Druid=D
Empty Bottle=E
Spell being cast =s
Filled bottle=F
Before bottling:

M

E

D

Mage casts spell at E

M
s
s
s
E

D

After spell is bottled

M

F

D
So, if any time in the future that druid is being attacked by a hept-kel armed mage,
then that druid could throw a bottled ra-kel at the attacking mage.

Final note….
Yes, I know this suggestion is utterly, utterly pathetic, so please don’t post insulting it,
as I already know it is a bad idea.