Revive Potions - druid's revive ability

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 3:26 am

I think that to even things out, druids should be able to make a potion that can revive ghosts. This is how it would work: (some of this currently may not be possible)

- The potion is a combination of THREE ingredients.
- It is VERY hard to make.
- You can pour it on a ghost.
- It has a CHANCE of working depending on some different things
- How good the potion is
- How long a person was dead (this should be added to mage's revive too)

Some of these are probably very complex and not yet possible. I think that they would be good to include when it is possible.

RagingSpirit · Post by **RagingSpirit** » Thu Feb 07, 2002 7:51 am

This would be very useful by having one more item for people to trade and more people will start working together.

Haven't thought of any downsides yet since Astral didn't say you could revive yourself with it.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:22 am

You would not be able to revive yourself with it, since when someone is dead, they cant use items while dead anyway.

Cerwyn · Post by **Cerwyn** » Fri Feb 08, 2002 7:32 am

Then I see no problem to it. Though it shouldn't be THAT hard to make.

BTW, the gods have given me the chance to change my name from RagingSpirit to Cerwyn, so I will be known as Cerwyn from now on.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Fri Feb 08, 2002 7:13 pm

To cast a mes pen and successfully revive someone is considerably hard. We cannot have a bunch of newbies running around killing people to test out the new potion.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 1:11 am

I have nothing against a revive potion idea, but just keep in mind it won't be as fun if classes have too many similar abilities. Priests magic will most likely involve revival as well already.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 5:35 am

It is not aimed to make them the same, just as a bit of equalization. So far, mages can do these things that druids cannot: paralyze, revive. It has been equalized fairly well by now with food potions and that. But if Mages clearly had better abilities, then most people would become mages.

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 11:24 pm

Hey Astral, most people HAVE become mages

although druids can make money through their skill, mages have a hard time making money with magic.

Quote: Astral Posted on 7:13 pm on Feb. 8, 2002
To cast a mes pen and successfully revive someone is considerably hard. We cannot have a bunch of newbies running around killing people to test out the new potion.

I don't think that would happen, i mean, do you see a bunch of newbies running around and killing to try out their mes pen? No. I think it would be the same with a potion.

(( How do you do the quote thing in your messages? ))

(Edited by Setherioth at 11:26 pm on Feb. 9, 2002)

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 11:30 pm

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Astral · Post by **Astral** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 7:09 pm

Well, maybe it was a slight exaggeration....

But that was exactly my point: "Most people become mages", and i wonder why? Because magic is appealing to people? Something has to be done to make people chose to be druids.

(a lot of druids just become druids for making healing potions for themselves anyway)

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:13 am

Honestly, I think there are already too much mages roaming the place due to their obvious advantage over druids. However, being a druid isn't all bad, and if we are EVER to get that new potion, I'd say that'll balence out the two sides alot.

((I was a mage, but now I'm a druid. What gives? Well, I can fight!!! :P))

Peregrin · Post by **Peregrin** » Tue Feb 12, 2002 11:55 am

Uh... how is a ghost supposed to trink a potion?
#me wonders

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:56 pm

Someone else uses one on the ghost.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Feb 12, 2002 8:48 pm

Naah, don't make the classes too mixed up..

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Wed Feb 13, 2002 5:57 pm

i am on the side of the revieve potion.
if it would be a bit more expensive...alrigth, but it would provide greeat deal of help to players like me when travelling in group without a mage.
its very frustrating to see your friend to die and just let him to walk 100 miles to nearest resurrection point cause there aint any mages around, or they are too high and migthy to heal the other guy.
how would the potion mix the groups up?
*looks at damien*
afraid for your priviliege as mage to only be able to resurrect someone?
if the druid would have to stand next to the guy he would try to resurrect, i see no problem with that.

Yours, Caranthir the Magnificent

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 1:44 am

When classes start to have similar abilities it becomes less important to choose which class you are if they're all "even" in aspects like usefulness it battle, economic, etc.

I don't see a problem with too many mages either. It's just that mages have the advantage in battle and that's what most people seem to only care about. Many good roleplayers pick druid because magic has nothing to do with their role.

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 1:54 am

I think that Druids DID know a few spells... but could make potions and things.
I think that we should worry about this when more spells and such are implemented.
Right now, there isn't a lot to either side, and half of the PK'ers don't need spells.
Well, thats all from the peanut gallery, AKA Moi.
Your friendly, happy-go-lucky Merchant pal, Erdrick.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 2:43 am

If there were really druids and mages, even if the revive potion was not practical, druids would try to make one. There is still the difference between mages and druids:

- Mages have heal, cast just when it is needed, not "ready" beforehand.
- Druids have heal, made beforehand so it is ready anytime.

The revive potion would follow this pattern. The advantage to the mage's revive is that it is not wasted, and it can be cast from range. The advantage to the druid's revive would be that it would be ready for use and no chance for failing at using it, but it would not be able to work from range.

So really, i dont see how this would make them "equal", because it only maintains the basic difference between them: readiness.

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 2:55 am

Mages and Druids have different enough abilities, personally, i think mages are better, but that's only in battle, Druids can make a whole lot of money through selling mana. And if too many people become druids, then there wouldn't be enough people to buy manas and the prices will fall and we would have a big economical depression. :biggrin: well not really, but it would make druids useless. Personally, I think druids are really only successful because there are so many more mages then druids causing mana to be in demand, hence, our need for druids.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 2:59 am

So now druids are just to be labourers to supply the mages with potions? I think that it is time for druids to get a USEFUL ability. A potion that they could use themselves, instead of just supplying people with them.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 3:06 am

At the moment, Druids can earn money with their job. Mages are useful for combat and healing - so we do have both classes with quite "balanced" ability bandwiths.
Since the system, as it is now, is just a temporal one, and we will have a job system later, the whole discussion here dos not really matter

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