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Alice · Post by **Alice** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:27 pm

I hate you Albernon, you are the stupid one. I do not vote, yet I am not a criminal and I have been around much more than three months! How dare you generalize and how dare you call me stupid. I haven't chosen any leaders for myself and never will. I am independent and I do not want anybody to interfere with my life. Besides, anybody can choose a bad leader, as long as that person is good at acting. And don't use that kind of language with me. You are a jerk. My life shouldn't have to be run by a bunch of imbeciles such as yourself. It's not my fault the majority is a bunch of idiotic, mindless, biased FOLLOWERS of absolutely nothing!!! Ho ho! Good job telling telling little me off, Albernon. You will not change my mind. I just want Fooser to be freed. It's not fair that you fools get the rest of us mixed up in all your filth.

~Alice~

Kishra_ · Post by **Kishra_** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:00 pm

There should be an age border for voting, so that not every stupid little child can give its vote.

Algoran · Post by **Algoran** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:01 pm

Then there should be borders for only letting people vote who agree with everything lyrenzia does ...... oh, wait, it's already there.

Algoran

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:49 am

Why does Evergreen get a council member in Lyrenzia? Why does Silverbrand get a council member in Lyrenzia?

Concerning the Evergreen Halflings, you must remember that the EGH existed as a guild (and part of Lyrenzia) before they ever founded Greenbriar. Furthermore that as part of Lyrenzia their laws exist over our land too (to a certain extent I am sure.) So why shouldn't we have a voice about the laws that will no doubt also rule over our land?

I'm sure that Lyrenzian law also has power in Silverbrand, this is not seen because Silverbrand has it's own army and can therefore enforce the law over their own land themselves.

To put it simply. Lyrenzian law still exists in Greenbriar and Silverbrand, therefore giving both parties the right to voice their opinion in the council of Lyrenzia.

Hermie of Greenbriar.

Moskher Heszche · Post by **Moskher Heszche** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:59 pm

Wo, wo, careful there, Hermie. You're starting to speak things that might just get Lyrenzia in trouble.

Lyrenzia has stated before that they have no power over governance outside of Trollsbane. Why should Greenbriar's laws overlap into our lands, anyways?

Normally, when one government's rule overlaps another one's they have what's called war.

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:24 pm

Who knows, Kishra, there probably is an age law for voting, but I'm sure Lyrenzia appreciates the suggestion; not that it would make a difference considering I would not vote anyway.

Puh! Who would punish Lyrenzia? Lyrenzia is apparently the law.

~Alice~

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:40 pm

Moskher Heszche,

Understand that Lyrenzia is the Government. We are a Guild within that Government so we are part of it. Greenbriar is owned by the EGH so therefore we can have our own rules and (at the moment) it is kept exclusively for members and guests.

As part of the Government we have the right to have a voice in the way it is run, and as owners of the land Greenbriar we have the right to set rules for the way it is maintained. That is why it is currently exclusive to members and guests.

Hermie of Greenbriar.

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:36 pm

I fear that the guilds and people apart of Lyrenzia feel that they are above the law. A silverbrand dwarf attacked a woman a day ago and an orc of bloodskull was threatening me with his eyes of fire if I didn't tell him what he wanted. Lyrenzia's partners and such should be of more manners than that!

Furiously signs his name

~¤~Kasume~¤~

Moskher Heszche · Post by **Moskher Heszche** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:47 am

You could have your own laws in Greenbriar without being part of Lyrenzia. Lyrenzia claims it's borders at the end of Trollsbane. You are free from the laws that Lyrenzia makes, so the laws here have no bearing on your people. Yet your people want to make the laws here?

Second of all, Lyrenzia has claimed, in the past, that it isn't a government.

-unsigned

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:12 pm

Why do we want laws? True, being exclusive to people of our choice we wouldn't need them, but what's to say someone doesn't come in and murder one of us? Lyrenzia's laws do nothing to stop our choices of freedom, and still protects us from criminals.

Hermie of Greenbriar.

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:24 pm

How do they protect you from Criminals?

~Nilo~

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:35 pm

If someone comes into Greenbriar and attacks one of us we can bring this crime before Lyrenzia to be judged. The idea that we are part of Lyrenzia and that people can still be jailed for crimes in our land is something of a deterent.

Perhaps protect was not the word I meant, but criminal acts in Greenbriar can still be punished by Lyrenzia.

Hermie of Greenbriar.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:06 am

A messanger copies a few of the notes off the wall, then jogs to the prison. Twenty minutes later he returns and pins something up.

Numbers 5, 6, 7, and partially 8 on your little list are all false. And in number 4 I don't believe you considered self defence in any? As was the case in Delia's complaint. Also where do these estimates come from?

Oh, and if you truly think I am that way, Hagen, then I could have killed the halfling and pained THREE people (her, the unborn child, and Crosis). According to you this would amuse me greatly, but that didnt happen did it?

Anyways, with recent events, especially the dwarf war conflict, do you really think I could walk into town, commit a crime, then leave without being noticed? If the answer is yes, then perhaps its a compliment to my stealth. After being in jail for over three months, I have no interest in committing crimes, especially in town, since it will get me back to this godawful place.

Vahkos · Post by **Vahkos** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:42 am

FooserJohnny,

I still have a mace ready to rest in your skull. Do you think I have forgotten my promise?

~Vahkos Nosral~

Hagen von Rabenfeld · Post by **Hagen von Rabenfeld** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:57 pm

I have no interest in committing crimes, especially in town, since it will get me back to this godawful place.

Then im surprised, what you have written in the discussion about the war and the farmer´s guild involvement in it.

Bah, someone spring me out so I can help!

Oh, and you shouldn't make Arkadia mad. Remember what happened in town the last time Ark was mad?

You give the arguments, why we should not release you on your own.

~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
~Guardsman~

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:02 am

Whoa, slow down. People who came by the prison and talked mentioned that quite a few people I knew were being attacked, the word "help" in my comment refers to defending someone if they are attacked out in the forest somewhere.

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:51 am

Fooser is good at helping people. He protected me from skeletons when I first arrived to this island and I was still weak and exhausted from my trip (he hardly even knew me!). Fooser is really a good person. I wish more people could see this. A lot of the accusations against him are false, and when he fought Delia, it was fair. She decided to get involved in a fight between me and Kishra, and seeing how it was one-sided and low, Fooser intervened and protected me from Delia. If you people weren't so critical of others, he would definitely be more willing to help those in need.

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:39 am

Let Fooser go! He's been in there long enough! If you don't let him out, I will break through the walls myself!