A new crossbow

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:49 am

I was looking through my depot, to see what needed a new graphic, and I came across a crossbow. WOW! DID it ever need new graphics!!!

Well, this is what i came up with... It is sized fairly well as well when you put it in game, I think you'll be surprised...

What do you think?

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:52 am

Like like a 2 by 4 peice of wood, with string nailed into it, with wood hanging out to the side.. I think the one we have is better...

Moskher Heszche · Post by **Moskher Heszche** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:09 am

I think Nilo was being facetious. I hope so, at least, otherwise my post is going to make me look like a jerk.

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:15 am

Jerk!

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:33 am

I made it a little bit smaler....

If you actually put it in your game, you may like it better than you think you will when its up here.. makes a difference...

Anyway, i think it stilll looks better than the old one...

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:39 am

Looks a bit cartoony, but better then anything I could do.

It's cool.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:45 am

Add detail, such as where the bolt goes, and add a metal handle. And maybe some ingravings.

Armil Darken · Post by **Armil Darken** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:18 am

Ohh please delet this before marting see...*Runs and hides*

martin · Post by **martin** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:49 am

Great texture.
Amazing modell.
Huge amount of detail.
Right size.

Erm. Well.

Martin

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:53 pm

Looks like it will be another battle between me and martin every post.

Rynt · Post by **Rynt** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:11 am

Well, it doesn't look like it links up properly, things are in the wrong place slightly. You know what would be a good idea? Getting a real crossbow to work from. My father has one, but with a few bits removed so it can't fire bolts through skulls.

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:53 pm

Howto put this in a nice way...... It looks like crap, it's two bits of wood with a large metal spike shoved through it. Where do you put the bolt? How do you fire it? It looks like a badly made pickaxe, and it's upside down, the string goes on top, if it didn't the bolt would fallout when you loaded it. There is nothing keeping the string in place,and unless it is upside down the string wouldn't disappear into the wood, Nilo, have you ever actually seen a crossbow?

http://www.midrealm.org/ballaeban/ulric ... ossbow.jpg

That is possibly what it would have looked like 500-600 years ago.

I know this sounds bitchy, but I'm not normally like this, it's just, I'm havibng a crappy week.

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:07 pm

Small Detailed images = one really globbed up picture...

Rynt · Post by **Rynt** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:12 pm

Yes, but that crossbow has none at all. If I wasn't told it was a crossbow, I'd say it was a stick....

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:28 am

WRong perspective to use however...

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:05 pm

Actually, Moathias image is a quite good one to model from. I made a simple crossbow model from it which still lacks detail and has to be textured yet but it's fairly good considering I only put about two hours of work into it and I'm using a new tool that I'm not really familiar with yet.

Image

Sir Giandor · Post by **Sir Giandor** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:37 pm

ein bissl eckig oder? Aber säh man nacher in klein eh nit mehr

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:43 pm

Das Ding IST eckig

Den Bogen am Handgriff sieht mal leider schlecht auf dem Bild.

Ich zweifle dass Martin das Ding braucht. Waffen hat er eigentlich zur Genüge.

Fedaykin · Post by **Fedaykin** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:51 pm

Ich glaube Armbrüste sind etwas was noch nicht so oft vertreten ist.

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:27 pm

Nice work, as usual

Are you going to resize it and see if it will be used in Illarion?

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:38 pm

Maybe. I'll have to texture it first and see how it looks downsized.
Then we'll see if Martin has a use for it.

martin · Post by **martin** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:50 pm

Adano Eles wrote:Image

That's the way -- aha aha -- I like it -- aha aha.

Very nice, but still without texture. May I ask you which program you used?

Martin

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:02 pm

It's called Wings 3D, a free modeller that mainly works with subdividing polygons. The interface is crap to be honest but the functionality more then makes up for this.

I'm working on the textured version. I'll have to do that in poser cause I couldn't find out how to import a texture yet.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:23 am

Textured version.

I know the metal looks like plastic. That's because I mapped the model wrong, and now I can't add reflection to the metal parts witout adding it to the wood too.

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:23 pm

Wow that looks pretty good when textured. Are you gonna try resizing it for Illarion?

Rynt · Post by **Rynt** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:57 pm

Good, but a crossbow would have some sort of catch to ready a shot, and a heavy crossbow has a winding mechanism. What kind of crossbows do we have in Illarion, light or heavy?

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:15 pm

I said it's lacking detail. But you wouldn't see that in Illarion anyway once it's downsized.

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:24 pm

Rynt, are light and/or heavy crossbows more or less powerful than an average bow? Average bows in game are not as good as crossbows so that would be some way of finding that out.

Rynt · Post by **Rynt** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:43 pm

A light crossbow would be lighter to hold and use, and able to be drawn by hand (Without a mechanism).

Heavy crossbows would be heavier,so harder to use, but have a winding mechanism to pull the bowstring, so probably do more damage.

With crossbows, it would probably depend on characters stats. The heavy crossbow needs the mechanism, and is usually slower to load and fire than a light crossbow. But with a low strength, a light crossbow would also be hard to use.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:52 pm

Are you sure the bow part wouldn't be wood? Iron isn't terribly flexible, and thin iron can be brittle and if it bent probobly wouldn't bend back, and they didn't have elastic. It would solve the plastic looking problem, even though you haven't scaled it to illarion so it might not matter at that size.