Your hyprocisy is the irony. If you can't figure that out, seek help.Why don't you just sit down and think about how hyprocritical it is to tell others not to judge while you're calling people names on the very next sentence.
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- The Returner
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- Grant Herion
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I am sorry Albernon, I am not putting up a decent arguement becuase unlike you, I am very busy. I do not have time to search through the countless parchments on this wall to show how I have the right to rule or whatever the hell your arguement is.
Albernon, wait til I am King of Callahorn before you begin to oppose me. Better yet, wait til I screw up in Callahorn before you begin to oppose me. Because, this has nothing to do with you. You leave in Trolls Bane, and unless I am mistaken, you were happy to hear i wouldn't be coming back. And now your arguement seems to change saying you would rather let niether myself nor Darlok be rulers of Callahorn.
Now leave this scroll, you are wasting my paper with your senseless arguements.
Grant Herion
Albernon, wait til I am King of Callahorn before you begin to oppose me. Better yet, wait til I screw up in Callahorn before you begin to oppose me. Because, this has nothing to do with you. You leave in Trolls Bane, and unless I am mistaken, you were happy to hear i wouldn't be coming back. And now your arguement seems to change saying you would rather let niether myself nor Darlok be rulers of Callahorn.
Now leave this scroll, you are wasting my paper with your senseless arguements.
Grant Herion
Give it up, we all know that you were always the grudge holding petty little man. Else you wouldn't be wasting your breath calling me names just because I support Lyrenzia, when this entire topic is about Grant Herion and Callahorn, which you are drawing attention away from, when we were both supposed to be here for a common goal.
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Albernon, it is obvious isn't it? Istan hates are forms of governments. He live in "anarchy" or so you call it. And Albernon, why don't you complain to Darlok as he is king of Northerot at the moment...
Grant Herion
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When did I ever say anything about you that require "knowing you personally". See? Everything is personal to you. It's all about your own hatred and grudges. You can never focus on the argument or task at hand, which is why you're talking to me right now when you should be talking to Grant.
Grant Herion, of course I don't expect you to put up an argument. You couildn't come up with one even if you had a thousand years, but of course you will always avoid answering anything that questions or threatens you from taking power. I know you're too slow to figure out the point, even if it was written over and over again, so I'll just keep it simple for you. The point is to expose you for the fraud, fool, hyporcrite, and power hungry man that you are.
-You deny the legitimacy of a council of guild leaders and elected representitives, accusing them of imposition, and then go impose yourself as a king elsewhere.
-You claim another government avoids questions against their legitimacy and then do the same thing yourself on day one.
-You accuse another government of making land grabs, and then quickly claim more land outside the territory that you supposedly claimed through battle, which was already stolen land in the first place.
-You make yourself the monarch of a republic, which obviously means you don't know what a republic is.
Grant Herion, of course I don't expect you to put up an argument. You couildn't come up with one even if you had a thousand years, but of course you will always avoid answering anything that questions or threatens you from taking power. I know you're too slow to figure out the point, even if it was written over and over again, so I'll just keep it simple for you. The point is to expose you for the fraud, fool, hyporcrite, and power hungry man that you are.
-You deny the legitimacy of a council of guild leaders and elected representitives, accusing them of imposition, and then go impose yourself as a king elsewhere.
-You claim another government avoids questions against their legitimacy and then do the same thing yourself on day one.
-You accuse another government of making land grabs, and then quickly claim more land outside the territory that you supposedly claimed through battle, which was already stolen land in the first place.
-You make yourself the monarch of a republic, which obviously means you don't know what a republic is.
Why don't I complain to Darlok? I'll refer you back to my earlier writing since I know you follow a little slow.
Similarly I wonder why Grant always argued with Lyrenzia and not Darlok in the beginning. I guess most people realized there was no need to argue against something that was openly evil? Oh wait, wasn't there some foolish prince who claimed Darlok wasn't evil and sided with him before he outlived his usefulness?
- Grant Herion
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I have redefined the word Republic Albernon. I do not see you bothering the Rangers for redefining that term. I do not see you bothering Druids for calling themselves that when according to the term, they are nothing like.
It is a semi Republic because of the fact that the common men and women would be able to elect a man or women to speak on the commons behalf to the King.
It is a semi monarchy because of the fact that the King's word makes the final decision.
And to add, The Republic of Callahorn has a much better ring to it then The Monarchy of Callahorn, because it is not just a monarchy. And if I had named it that, you would have complained about me not knowing what a Monarchy was because you could elect an official in it.
I deny the legitimancy of guilds who imposed their laws on the town because they DID NOT build the town. They did not settle it. Many of them were not the first here. And many of the town citizens appose their lies and deceit.
Secondly, what land have I claimed outside of the land I named Callahorn? I have yet to do so. You seem to be paranoid on my power to do this. Perhaps you should wait and see what I do before jumping at rumors or shadows.
And you don't complain to Darlok because Lyrenzia leaders tell you not to anger him.
Grant Herion
It is a semi Republic because of the fact that the common men and women would be able to elect a man or women to speak on the commons behalf to the King.
It is a semi monarchy because of the fact that the King's word makes the final decision.
And to add, The Republic of Callahorn has a much better ring to it then The Monarchy of Callahorn, because it is not just a monarchy. And if I had named it that, you would have complained about me not knowing what a Monarchy was because you could elect an official in it.
I deny the legitimancy of guilds who imposed their laws on the town because they DID NOT build the town. They did not settle it. Many of them were not the first here. And many of the town citizens appose their lies and deceit.
Secondly, what land have I claimed outside of the land I named Callahorn? I have yet to do so. You seem to be paranoid on my power to do this. Perhaps you should wait and see what I do before jumping at rumors or shadows.
And you don't complain to Darlok because Lyrenzia leaders tell you not to anger him.
Grant Herion
Of course I don't bother the Rangers or Druids. They're not criminals who oppose law and try to steal land for themselves.Grant Herion wrote:I have redefined the word Republic Albernon. I do not see you bothering the Rangers for redefining that term. I do not see you bothering Druids for calling themselves that when according to the term, they are nothing like.
It is a semi Republic because of the fact that the common men and women would be able to elect a man or women to speak on the commons behalf to the King.
It is a semi monarchy because of the fact that the King's word makes the final decision.
And to add, The Republic of Callahorn has a much better ring to it then The Monarchy of Callahorn, because it is not just a monarchy. And if I had named it that, you would have complained about me not knowing what a Monarchy was because you could elect an official in it.
I deny the legitimancy of guilds who imposed their laws on the town because they DID NOT build the town. They did not settle it. Many of them were not the first here. And many of the town citizens appose their lies and deceit.
Secondly, what land have I claimed outside of the land I named Callahorn? I have yet to do so. You seem to be paranoid on my power to do this.
Redefined republic? Hahaha sure... whatever you need to make a desperate attempt to save face for your ignorance of political terms.
So if people can elect representitives to speak on behalf of the commons then basically you're just like Lyrenzia, except that their elected representitives have an equal say like every member of the Foundation, while in Callahorn, the representitives would all still have to obey you in most situations (yes I'm aware of your whatever 2 out of 3 thing). Wow I'm so impressed by how the shift in power to you instead of the people is supposed to help the people. Haha.
So let's see, they are not legitimate because of those reasons. Yet you claim yourself the king of this territory and you DID NOT build the town yourself, you did not settle it yourself, and you were not the first here, and everyone who currently lives in Notherot did not agree to let you rule them. So you are legitimate how? By imposing yourself through taking the reigns of power from Darlok after he does the dirty work?
You claimed additional land that was outside Notherot, such as part of the desert. Geez it doesn't take a genious to figure that you wrote that in your earlier announcements.
What did you just say about jumping at rumors and shadows?Perhaps you should wait and see what I do before jumping at rumors or shadows.
And you don't complain to Darlok because Lyrenzia leaders tell you not to anger him.
Grant Herion
I see hypocrisy is a trait that will never leave you. It boggles the mind how you could do it in two consecutive sentences without realizing it.
Even common numbskulls already see that Darlok is evil and makes no effort to hide it, so obviously there's no need to expose something that's already exposed. The point is to make people see your fraud and hyprocrisy, get it?
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I've saved you the embarassment by underlining certain words you should pay attention to.So let's see, they are not legitimate because of those reasons. Yet you claim yourself the king of this territory and you DID NOT build the town yourself, you did not settle it yourself, and you were not the first here, and everyone who currently lives in Notherot did not agree to let you rule them. So you are legitimate how? By imposing yourself through taking the reigns of power from Darlok after he does the dirty work?
You were not THE first to settle, nor were you the only person who build the castle all by yourself. Clearly you have hypocritically taken by force from all those who settled in this territory the right to choose their own leader and fate, as you so always claim Lyrenzia of doing.
You have done nothing more for Notherot than the guilds and leaders of the Lyrenzia Foundation have done for Troll's Bane countless more times than you ever had for the stolen territory known as Notherot. They've repelled countless assaults by Drakhen and other evils long before you even touched the shores of this island.
Clearly, the collective members of the Lyrenzia Foundation are much more qualified to govern Troll's Bane than you could ever be to rule the former Notherot by your logic. Therefore you are a hyprocrite for denying Lyrenzia's qualification when you are only equally or less qualified to rule.
- Val De Gausse
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Ogres roamed those lands first. It was nothing but ruins, a desolated hole out in the wilderness. Darlok made it livable, and cultivated the land. Unlike the Movement, he didn't seize a civilization and steal the throne from anybody. He decided to work his own society, and build it from nothing. The Movement is basically, in that sense, a group of thieves, cowards, and bandits.
Albernon is correct. Grant was not the first at Northerot, that is for certain. As a matter of fact, I don't think he even put any labor into the castles construction.
I, however, magically fortified the walls to remain even stronger.
I stood there extra nights, to ensure the safety of the baby kingdom, defending it from trespassers and would-be saboteurs.
I didn't "serve" Darlok. I asked to aid him, for I've seen excellent potential in this kingdom; established land out of Lyrenzian grasp.
My heart went into that land. Never forget that Prince Herion.
~Vahkos Nosral~
Albernon is correct. Grant was not the first at Northerot, that is for certain. As a matter of fact, I don't think he even put any labor into the castles construction.
I, however, magically fortified the walls to remain even stronger.
I stood there extra nights, to ensure the safety of the baby kingdom, defending it from trespassers and would-be saboteurs.
I didn't "serve" Darlok. I asked to aid him, for I've seen excellent potential in this kingdom; established land out of Lyrenzian grasp.
My heart went into that land. Never forget that Prince Herion.
~Vahkos Nosral~
- Grant Herion
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Then Albernon you are saying everyone in town who had defeated Drahken's soldiers are in Lyrenzia? Or only the ones in Lyrenzia have the right to decide? You damn fool.
I was basically the one taking care of Northerot. When Darlok wasn't awake which was often it was I who fought who those fools who would burn the palace.
So Albernon i have much more of a right to rule it, then Lyrenzia has a right to rule the town. They werent the first. And there were others who have done what Lyrenzia has done, but you ignore them. Perhaps you should confront the people in town, rather then those out of it.
Grant Herion
I was basically the one taking care of Northerot. When Darlok wasn't awake which was often it was I who fought who those fools who would burn the palace.
So Albernon i have much more of a right to rule it, then Lyrenzia has a right to rule the town. They werent the first. And there were others who have done what Lyrenzia has done, but you ignore them. Perhaps you should confront the people in town, rather then those out of it.
Grant Herion
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I have not stood away from Trollsbane, this is true. But, I often travel and even spend nights at Northerot. Even before your rebellion, Darlok allowed me to enter the lands, regardless of citizenship or lack thereof.
That is why when I enter just about anywhere, I can do so with a clear heart.
~Vahkos Nosral~
That is why when I enter just about anywhere, I can do so with a clear heart.
~Vahkos Nosral~
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Yes, I AM saying that everyone in town who had defeated Drahken's soldiers and more have the right, if they choose to exercise it, to decide who will represent them and what decisions they will make.Grant Herion wrote:Then Albernon you are saying everyone in town who had defeated Drahken's soldiers are in Lyrenzia? Or only the ones in Lyrenzia have the right to decide? You damn fool.
I was basically the one taking care of Northerot. When Darlok wasn't awake which was often it was I who fought who those fools who would burn the palace.
So Albernon i have much more of a right to rule it, then Lyrenzia has a right to rule the town. They werent the first. And there were others who have done what Lyrenzia has done, but you ignore them. Perhaps you should confront the people in town, rather then those out of it.
Grant Herion
In fact, ANYONE who meets basic citizenship requirements has the power in their hands, unless they go do something stupid like join Darlok or other anti-law associations.
You on the other hand have made YOURSELF the sole KING.
So you heard it yourself here people of Notherot. Grant Herion thinks he's better than the rest of you and is the only one who deserves to rule over you. A poor excuse of a hypocritical uneducated prince .
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