Lyrenzia keep your Hobbit Guild in Order!

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:02 pm

I would like to keep the Lyrenzian higher ups attention. Two hobbits were just seen cutting down the newly grown forest in Northerot, their names were Brendan Mason and Crosis Smallburrow. This will not stand.
They have no reason to be cutting down own baby forest except to try and ruin it from ever growing to be a large forest. Keep your hobbits in order! My people follow the laws of Lyrenzia. We expect the same. If these happens one more time we will kill every person that comes into Northerot and doesn't leave when asked.
I am no longer going to play around, either follow the law or die.

Grant Herion

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:07 pm

Yes I inspected the damage and the killed nearly half of the forest, desecrating things such as forests will surely lose you Oldra's favor, and to halflings this would be a great loss. Killing the incarnations of the gods that are defensless is surely a sign of cowardice and disrespect.

~Allerus

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:18 pm

Grant, threatening death on every person who enters northerot will NOT help your posistion any, upon Lyrenzia or otherwise.

Lyrenzia isent a government, it has no rule, thus it has no jurisdiction over Brendan or his holigan friend Crosis and since its northerothian territory, nor can they be charged under lyrenzian reign.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:24 pm

Lyrenzia is a government since it has a Judicial System. And they do want to keep a peace between Northerot and Lyrenzia. If they want to keep this peace they will keep members in their guild alliance, (it must be this since it isn't a government), they must have their members follow the rules of Northerot, or kick them out or punish them. Because both of these hobbits are in Lyrenzia.
But I suspect Lyrenzia won't do anything because they only care to punish those they aren't in Lyrenzia.

Grant

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:29 pm

Lyrenzia IS a judicial system, not a government.

And as far as I remember, the Grey Rose knights declared martial law, shutting off trade routes to northerot and giving an open ultimatum to its people.

This is not the time to be worried about small politics when very well tommorow, or even in hours, open war can be declared.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:25 am

The Grey Rose has very little power to speak of. I have been throughout the island, and yet have seen signs naught of their army gathering.

~Paul Laffing~

Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:26 am

Grant Herion, keep your lizard, who looks like a normal one to me ((325xx)), under control, he just walked around town and burned everything. I do not know the name of this coward since he is a coward and did want to show his face. But keep him under control. He is not acting like a man should act, he said he's doing it because of these halfings. I do not know what this has to do with it. Is this a new law in Northerot? To make in Trolls Bane three times the damage that someone did in Northerot? Well I heard about Zerbus, but he just talked about murder and I believe he's not a coward and stands to what he does.
So I ask you again to keep this lizard under control.

Josefine von Irnaron
Elder Templer of the grey light order

Hades · Post by **Hades** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:32 am

You keep your damn halflings under control. We will not tolerate this.

Signed Deats

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:35 am

I don't think I explained very well, lets put it in simple terms, If someone came from Northerot and attacked people and property for no reason at all, and the town citizens knew he was from the north, they would retaliate, I use the same philosophy. Attacking the forest as well, a place of importance becase we have emerged from a drought. Zerbus' idea is interesting, but he used it for life, not property. I expanded the idea to property. It just seems to me that the current attack prevention system isn't working, so I will try some other things, try to get it through their thick heads that they are not wanted there, and what they are doing accomplishes nothing at all. So in short terms, there is a double standard for attacking and retaliaton from the town. I did the same exact thing that all the geniuses do when they go to Northerot, and I see you did not appreciate it, and neither do we.

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:35 am

The trees of Troll's Bane have been desecrated by such folk, so we merely take back that which Northerot does not deserve.

Hades · Post by **Hades** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:37 am

what gives you the right to march onto our terretory and to kill our trees? You will be hunted down if you come near us again.

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:56 am

No one gave you the right to own that territory, either.

I'm sorry, but all these events between trolls bane and the north, its all be for no reason, on either side

Northerot was established underfalse pretences, and thus can be overthrown easily since darlok lost much of his power.

The problem is, Darlok still holds power, and that scares people, so much so, that they try to avoid northerot as much as possible, which will have the same end result.

Stop your madness, you idiots, your no better then each other and if the gods had a mind to, ought to smite every last one of us for our actions.

Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:00 am

But you did not burn the trees around Trolls Bane, you burnt Trolls Bane! That a difference as you sure know.
And I just ask Nerevar and there is no Lizard citizen of Northerot, that means you didn't do for Northerot you just did it against Trolls Bane without any reason. I hope you know that I'm after you for burning the Library, coward without a name.

Josefine von Irnaron
Elder Templer of the grey light order

Hades · Post by **Hades** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:04 am

and we are after you for destroying our beautiful forest, do not come close to us.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:09 am

No one gave Lyrenzia the right to self-impose a judicial system and consider Trollsbane and the area around it "their territory" either. Everything people are complaining about the north is done by the town and it's guilds to an even bigger extent if you actually think about it.

Just because there is no official lizard citizens dosen't mean there are no lizards in the north, it isn't that hard to understand. I am aware you would be after me, but I don't really care. And coward is such an overused and lame insult, can't you come up with something creative?

It's hilarious, the same things they get mad at Darlok for are the same things they commit.

Kincent Nolatri · Post by **Kincent Nolatri** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:10 am

I swear your all children!You run around breaking laws, killing, and treat other people like trash.You honsetly belive that because your with LY. the rules don't apply to you, and that if you live in Northerrot then Ly. rules don't matter when your in their town!Sometimes every last of you,but Kyra, make me sick you talk of wars and back stap your own friends when they don't pick your side.The drought is over and all of this bullshit is pointless I think this isle as a whole needs to take a look at it's self and see what a heartless monster you people have made it become.

Here a example of how stupid you act some times:
If another isle or kingdom saw us like this they come in and take over, we wouldn't stand a chance becuase we would be fighting over who the true heros are and who deisever to fight the enemy, instead of work like a team everyone would be fight each other and then think they stand a chance against the REAL enemy of that war.

Just a warning you really should rethink what you are ALL doing before it's to late

~Kincent Nolatri~

Hades · Post by **Hades** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:16 am

you are no better then anyof us, you have no right to judge us, go off and mind your own damn busyness.

Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:22 am

I don't see that you have a reason for doing this and not being a citizen of Northerot. You must be rich, since you have to pay every time you enter Northerot, and if you live there.... you know, that is one expensive live. I could call you other "names" too but why should I? Why don't you just tell me your name, your real name.
Well when I think about it, I wouldn't fight you anyways you're not worth it. You're just one more fool in nice town.
And since you do not have a reason for attacking the town and since you're not an official citizen of Northerot I have to think about a judical trial for what you did. I wonder who's winning in the end.

Josefine von Irnaron
Elder Templer of the grey light order

Kincent Nolatri · Post by **Kincent Nolatri** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:22 am

Deats did I say I wasn;t part of the problem NO! if you like to read where I say "The isle as a WHOLE" do I live here,yes am i part of the isle, YES.
I didn't jude you or any one else, I just told you how your behave these days, and I act the same way to we ALL,notice how i say all, need to look deep inside our selfs and change OUR ways before it's to late.

~Kincent Nolatri~

John Irenicus · Post by **John Irenicus** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:24 am

My people follow the laws of Lyrenzia.

You say they follow the rules of Lyrenzia?
Today, Nerevar was in town and saw Brendan. Some seconds later Brendan was dead and Nerevar escaped. Maybe it was a kind of revenge?

Maybe they had not the right to kill those trees, but you have not the right to come to Trolls Bane and kill some people you hate.

Hades · Post by **Hades** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:27 am

We know who destroyed out forest, brendan was one of them. My name is Deats.

Nerevar Schattenaxt · Post by **Nerevar Schattenaxt** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:28 am

John Irenicus wrote:
My people follow the laws of Lyrenzia.
You say they follow the rules of Lyrenzia?
Today, Nerevar was in town and saw Brendan. Some seconds later Brendan was dead and Nerevar escaped. Maybe it was a kind of revenge?

Maybe they had not the right to kill those trees, but you have not the right to come to Trolls Bane and kill some people you hate.

I do not care about your Words John,
if this dirty little bastard comes into Northerot, attacks the citizens and then cut and burn our trees down, i'll do exactly the same to the hobbit.
~Nerevar~

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:44 am

A judicial trial? Who are the judges? The frauds? They are not soviergn anymore. They have even broken their own proclimations and let their other members run wild upon the land, Lyrenzia is nothing, it is an invisible threat that can expand or retract. It expands silently by those who have created it, and pulled back by places like Northerot, taking away some of their influence, the ultimate nightmare for the power slappers in town. The drought is over. Darlok has secured his word and has not attacked the town since the castle was completed. He has kept his word, it is Lyrenzia's word that we need to worry about.

You can blame Darlok for the drought if you wiah, you may blame some members of the north for retaliation, you can blame me for whatever you want, but it comes down to the problem being started in the minds of those who are against Darlok. Look at what you complain about him. Taxing and attacking people who walk on his land? That can't be it because the Grey Rose or whoever else is restricting movement in and out of town. Is it because some of them wander into town and attack people? No because they have reason, and most of you would do it too under the same circumstances, even you Josefine. The first reaction to me burning the library was "come and fight me coward", well? The forest up north and the castle are equivelant to the library for us. So you reacted the same way we do.

Hades · Post by **Hades** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:50 am

They have no real power, and our life is not one off luxory or the kind, we are people just like you, except that we do not wish to live in town.

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:03 am

i know just one lizard who would burn the town and who talks like that about lyrenzia. and that is Fooser. ya will never change Fooser, huh? ya ar an criminal and have caused trouble more than enough in trolls bane. do us all a big favour, go, go and come never again. or just die, that would be more fun for us.

Galim

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:09 am

Fooser is not a member of the movement nor a citizen of the northrot, we have no control over him. So kill him, not us or the Northrot.

Allerus

Kincent Nolatri · Post by **Kincent Nolatri** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:09 am

One question that I want ever one to answer,

Do you really enjoy be locked in a forever waging battle that has no really propose?

I know that I don't! but it seem like some of you add fuel to the fire justt so the battle will keep going.Rember kids don't play with fire it could burn you,unless you know how.

In other words don't start Wars or battles unless there is a good reason.which see none of at this moment

~KN~

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:11 am

Stop this discussion, if all you have to throw in is personal, unclear opinion.

We need facts, that is all. So, is this lizard a member of northerot or is he not ?
If not, he acted for his own weird kind of fun, and is trying to blame northerot for it, causing a war between northerot and Troll's Bane.
If he is, he acts in a way that makes it quite clear that he is trying to start a war between northerot and Troll's Bane.

The same counts for the actions of the halfling.

Now, who is causing chaos, Northerot, Troll's Bane, or simply two maniacs ? And, why does the lizard burn Troll's Bane, if Nerevar already made the halfling pay for his agressions ? Again, it looks like someone wants to provoke a war here, to damage both the populations of Troll's Bane and Northerot.

Lyrenzia is NOT a government of Troll's Bane.
In Troll's Bane live people. These people form organisations, so-called guilds, clans, orders, whatever.
These organisations, angry about all these people killing others because of low reasons, find a way to handle these "disturbing" individuals.
There we have the actual situation. Whoever wants to influence the way Lyrenzia acts, has to join one of the guilds in the Lyrenzia guild council, and this way influence the opinion of that group, so its representative(s) in the council will vote for that opinion. Lyrenzia is financed by private founds of these participating guilds, raises no taxes, and is, of course, a thorn in the eye of robbers, bandits and maniacs.

Whoever causes havoc in the "name of Lyrenzia" or "Troll's Bane" is definitely betraying Lyrentia's original goals.
Whoever causes havoc in the name of "Northerot" is causing problems and danger, that will cost lots of ressources from both Troll's Bane AND Northerot, therefor is not in the interest of northerot too.

As far as i see, war is not a solution to anything.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:21 am

You still dont have the facts.

Nerevar Schattenaxt · Post by **Nerevar Schattenaxt** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:26 am

FooserJohn wrote:You still dont have the facts.

Could you please listen to Damien?
His words are wise, we don't want any kind of war between Northerot and Lyrenzia/Troll's Bane just because a mad Lizard burns the whole town. That is unnecessary, if you want to burn the town, do it in your own name, and don't abuse Northerot, if you are no citizen and neither a member of the movement nor the bloodskulls. And you, little Hobbits, don't attack our forests in the name of the Grey Rose or Lyrenzia, you are just provoking a war, my little evergreens, so don't wonder, when i walk into town and chop you all down like you did to our trees.
~Nerevar~

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