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A new crossbow

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:49 am
by Nilo
I was looking through my depot, to see what needed a new graphic, and I came across a crossbow. WOW! DID it ever need new graphics!!!

Well, this is what i came up with... It is sized fairly well as well when you put it in game, I think you'll be surprised...

Image

What do you think? :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:52 am
by Grant Herion
Like like a 2 by 4 peice of wood, with string nailed into it, with wood hanging out to the side.. I think the one we have is better...

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:09 am
by Moskher Heszche
I think Nilo was being facetious. I hope so, at least, otherwise my post is going to make me look like a jerk. :oops: :P

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:15 am
by Nilo
Jerk! :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:33 am
by Nilo
I made it a little bit smaler....

If you actually put it in your game, you may like it better than you think you will when its up here.. makes a difference...

Anyway, i think it stilll looks better than the old one...

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:39 am
by Kasume
Looks a bit cartoony, but better then anything I could do.

It's cool.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:45 am
by Val De Gausse
Add detail, such as where the bolt goes, and add a metal handle. And maybe some ingravings.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:18 am
by Armil Darken
Ohh please delet this before marting see...*Runs and hides*

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:49 am
by martin
Great texture.
Amazing modell.
Huge amount of detail.
Right size.

Erm. Well.

Martin

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:53 pm
by Val De Gausse
Looks like it will be another battle between me and martin every post.

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:11 am
by Rynt
Well, it doesn't look like it links up properly, things are in the wrong place slightly. You know what would be a good idea? Getting a real crossbow to work from. My father has one, but with a few bits removed so it can't fire bolts through skulls.

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:53 pm
by Moathia
Howto put this in a nice way...... It looks like crap, it's two bits of wood with a large metal spike shoved through it. Where do you put the bolt? How do you fire it? It looks like a badly made pickaxe, and it's upside down, the string goes on top, if it didn't the bolt would fallout when you loaded it. There is nothing keeping the string in place,and unless it is upside down the string wouldn't disappear into the wood, Nilo, have you ever actually seen a crossbow?

http://www.midrealm.org/ballaeban/ulric ... ossbow.jpg

That is possibly what it would have looked like 500-600 years ago.

I know this sounds bitchy, but I'm not normally like this, it's just, I'm havibng a crappy week.

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:07 pm
by Kasume
Small Detailed images = one really globbed up picture... :D

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:12 pm
by Rynt
Yes, but that crossbow has none at all. If I wasn't told it was a crossbow, I'd say it was a stick....

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:28 am
by Nilo
WRong perspective to use however...

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:05 pm
by Adano Eles
Actually, Moathias image is a quite good one to model from. I made a simple crossbow model from it which still lacks detail and has to be textured yet but it's fairly good considering I only put about two hours of work into it and I'm using a new tool that I'm not really familiar with yet.

Image

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:37 pm
by Sir Giandor
ein bissl eckig oder? Aber säh man nacher in klein eh nit mehr

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:43 pm
by Adano Eles
Das Ding IST eckig ;) Den Bogen am Handgriff sieht mal leider schlecht auf dem Bild.

Ich zweifle dass Martin das Ding braucht. Waffen hat er eigentlich zur Genüge.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:51 pm
by Fedaykin
Ich glaube Armbrüste sind etwas was noch nicht so oft vertreten ist. ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:27 pm
by Hermie
Nice work, as usual :wink:

Are you going to resize it and see if it will be used in Illarion?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:38 pm
by Adano Eles
Maybe. I'll have to texture it first and see how it looks downsized.
Then we'll see if Martin has a use for it.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:50 pm
by martin
Adano Eles wrote:Image
That's the way -- aha aha -- I like it -- aha aha.

Very nice, but still without texture. May I ask you which program you used?

Martin

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:02 pm
by Adano Eles
It's called Wings 3D, a free modeller that mainly works with subdividing polygons. The interface is crap to be honest but the functionality more then makes up for this.

I'm working on the textured version. I'll have to do that in poser cause I couldn't find out how to import a texture yet.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:23 am
by Adano Eles
Textured version.

I know the metal looks like plastic. That's because I mapped the model wrong, and now I can't add reflection to the metal parts witout adding it to the wood too.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:23 pm
by Kasume
Wow that looks pretty good when textured. Are you gonna try resizing it for Illarion?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:57 pm
by Rynt
Good, but a crossbow would have some sort of catch to ready a shot, and a heavy crossbow has a winding mechanism. What kind of crossbows do we have in Illarion, light or heavy?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:15 pm
by Adano Eles
I said it's lacking detail. But you wouldn't see that in Illarion anyway once it's downsized.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:24 pm
by Hermie
Rynt, are light and/or heavy crossbows more or less powerful than an average bow? Average bows in game are not as good as crossbows so that would be some way of finding that out.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:43 pm
by Rynt
A light crossbow would be lighter to hold and use, and able to be drawn by hand (Without a mechanism).

Heavy crossbows would be heavier,so harder to use, but have a winding mechanism to pull the bowstring, so probably do more damage.

With crossbows, it would probably depend on characters stats. The heavy crossbow needs the mechanism, and is usually slower to load and fire than a light crossbow. But with a low strength, a light crossbow would also be hard to use.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:52 pm
by Gro'bul
Are you sure the bow part wouldn't be wood? Iron isn't terribly flexible, and thin iron can be brittle and if it bent probobly wouldn't bend back, and they didn't have elastic. It would solve the plastic looking problem, even though you haven't scaled it to illarion so it might not matter at that size.