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Lyrenzia and It's Flaws

Lyrenzia first came as a self proclaimed power in Trolls Bane. I was new here when it came to power, I was here before it came to power only a few weeks though. Anyways, the first flaw in Lyrenzia is this, it holds elections and yet there was no election to choose if anyone wanted it as a Government. Secondly, when it came to power it immediately decided it and it[/b]would oversee Diplomatical Affairs and Political ones, but what experience do these people have in Diplomatical Affairs?
Next up is the Town Walls, I won't say anything about them because it wasn't Lyrenzia's fault they came up when the builders wanted them too.
The Judicial System is flawed in many ways and I find it funny that people who have never been in a Judicial System before decided to make one without the peoples consent and out of their own lust for power. There are plenty of cases inwhich the rightful have been accused and I am not saying mine was one of them, however I am saying some have gone the wrong way. One such case was the Elaralith attacking Cain case. Elaralith clearly attacked Cain twice, however she was only convicted once. And I think we can all say that she attacked Cain twice with the intention to kill.
Finally when Lyrenzia first came out, it proclaimed it was the Government of the town of Trolls Bane, however now it seems to control the whole island. This includes the river, the desert, the forests, the monsters, everyone's home if you live outside of the town. It controls everything now, it is obvious that that is wrong. If people move out the town they want to get away from Lyrenzia, however Lyrenzia has now made certain that is controls not only the town but the entire island.
If you want to stop Lyrenzia and you see the threat it shows to the entire island, then contact me through a messenger and join The Movement!

Truely,

Grant Herion

Poor human language scribbled down on a dirty and torn piece of paper is put up with a dagger just below Grants

Grant me not knows why think Lyrnesnina ave any control. It all chaos not controlled. All can do is preach fancy words of stupidity and when gets rough most member run an hide. If want jail people me no care an if jail orc that no do wrong it come vengance and river in town run red with blood on Lyresninas hands. No think made up laws go outside town wall an if try bring "justice" to orc territory got other thing comin.
Me knows bout wot Pookey did an was in town, he mayby go jail for that but he strong will survive an have proved he no care bout stupid laws.
No care if Lyresnina force laws on town it can have town just full of stupids anyhow. Me try not break law in town avoid trouble but if fight is brought to face me no care.

Me say let em "rule" their town an me no could care less. But orc do what orc want long as chief no says other so peoples better learn deal with that.

They say laws and regulations only go for people inside the guilds, then it went to everyone. They say laws go for town and town limits, it goes beyond that. The current pattern leads me to believe that you can't trust anything they say. Why should one anyways? They lie at their own trials. "Trials" are nothing more than a group of frauds giving their "opinion" on a situation, nothing more than that. Guilds dont rule, people do. They can't control their own members anyways, so in total, they have failed horribly, and it is time for them to go away

Join The Movement if you feel that way unknown writer.

Grant Herion

Right... join the lap dog of Darlok and his Movement......
I wonder who is stupid enough not to realize this attempt to overthrow Lyrenzia is simply to pave way for licking Darlok's boots.

First of all, Lyrenzia still never proclaimed itself government.
You just assume that anything that jumps really fast and eats carrots is automatically a rabbit.
You assume Lyrenzia has the same obligations as a government but it doesn't, and neither does it have the benefits of a government.
For those who don't follow the law, Lyrenzia is simply a big warrior with a big sword to get his way, which is the same concept of how life was like in the anarchy.
Of course now the rouges are evildoers are unhappy because they aren't the strongest so they can't kill and steal at their own whim without fearing retribution from someone stronger.

Before anyone complains about anymore more bullshit about the injustice of a self proclaimed superpower, think about the fact that you were living in an anarchy in the first place which means you had no rights and the concept of law and justice was simply the whim of the strong in the first place so the appearnace of Lyrenzia is the same concept.

About the trial regarding Elaralith versus Cain, did you read what was the charge Cain made against Elaralith? Do you know you can't be sentenced for something you weren't charged with? If you can't even understand such a simple concept, then don't poke your nose into the justice system.

This "control" that you speak of is an empty concept in a world that was an anarchy. There was no law in the first place so anyone could destroy the lives of others at their own whim. In anarchy there were no rules so you would be free to do anything including taking away other people's freedom, which is what you seem to feel. Obviously Lyrenzia upholds the basic necessities such as don't kill and steal, so are you saying you didn't live by these rules before Lyrenzia? If so that's too bad, because the rest of society needs these rules for their surival.

Is that a fact unknown writer. It was chaos and anarchy before lyrenzia, it was darkness and Lyrenzia was the light. You have any idea how stupid you sound? Life before Lyrenzia was exactly as it is now, infact, I think it was less chaotic. I don't remember hearing of so many deaths before Lyrenzia in such a short amount of time.
Infact, I could prove that Lyrenzia caused more deaths when it came into power and yes I say power. I find it funny that you have the courage to call em a lapdog of Darlok's but don't have the courage to state your name. I guess you are one of those that are desperate to be safe when in reality people are still dieing, people are still be stolen from. Lyrenzia doesn't change anything, all it does is slow down the process of deaths because it does underthetable dealings with the jail guards.
Secondly, you seemed to ignore what I wrote about Lyrenzia trying to rule the island when it was first just for its guilds. And unknown writer, don't insult me again, otherwise you will show how little of a case of defense you can put up for Lyrenzia. You have to insult those that disagree with you so you will feel better and rest easier at night.

Grant Herion

Oh and unknown writer, this has nothing to do with Darlok. Darlok will stay in his castle when it is built and be glad he has such a large empire. He won't even dream of taking over the town, he has told me so. So don't try and draw a conspiracy out of this.

Grant Herion

Grant Herion wrote:Is that a fact unknown writer. It was chaos and anarchy before lyrenzia, it was darkness and Lyrenzia was the light.

Wrong, never said that.

Grant Herion wrote: Life before Lyrenzia was exactly as it is now,

Wow, newsflash! That's my point! Notice how many times I used the word "same"?

Grant Herion wrote: infact, I think it was less chaotic. I don't remember hearing of so many deaths before Lyrenzia in such a short amount of time.

Duh... look at the conditions around you now....
You really think you can talk about the death rate when you weren't even here before Lyrenzia? Maybe you should do some real research and look at all the war and kill on sight declarations before Lyrenzia came.
Right... I guess Lyrenzia causes more death because it imprisons people instead of killing them? Good logic......
You can prove it? Great...Too bad you didn't take the time to actually do it.

I did write my name, I always do. You just have a problem spotting it that's all.

Grant Herion wrote: Secondly, you seemed to ignore what I wrote about Lyrenzia trying to rule the island when it was first just for its guilds.

Again you bring up the empty concept of "rule" and "wrong" in a world of anarchy where these things never existed in the first place. If people who don't choose to be ruled shouldn't be ruled, does that mean you'll just let those people kill and steal from anyone? People should be able to kill and steal from you without retribution? What a hypocrite...
You would go punish them just the same that Lyrenzia goes and punishes criminals.

Grant Herion wrote:Oh and unknown writer, this has nothing to do with Darlok. Darlok will stay in his castle when it is built and be glad he has such a large empire. He won't even dream of taking over the town, he has told me so. So don't try and draw a conspiracy out of this.

I will remember you, when the day came which prove, that this is a lie.


You said on your own for a few hours, that you came only a few days before Lyrenzia was proclaimed. So you have no realy clue how it was to live in that town under a Anarchy.

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Fieps

Unknown writer, please look at what you have written before you call me a liar...

Albernon wrote:
Before anyone complains about anymore more bullshit about the injustice of a self proclaimed superpower, think about the fact that you were living in an anarchy in the first place which means you had no rights and the concept of law and justice was simply the whim of the strong in the first place so the appearnace of Lyrenzia is the same concept.

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Unknown writer, you haven't written your name and you have yet to write your name which shows you insult but are afraid to write your name because the murderer Grant Herion will come for you.
Secondly, unknown writer, you think all of us are killers when their is no consequence, you seem to think we will all kill ourselves without Lyrenzia and that we desperately need it. If Lyrenzia is so desperately needed, how come at Darlok's ruins and the Bloodskull cave we live happily and only kill when we are attacked? You think maybe Lyrenzia isn't needed? Why don't we have a test? 1 month without Lyrenzia and lets see what happens. I am sure nothing would change, except people would have more freedom and be able to live outside of Lyrenzia's rules in their own homes.

Grant Herion

Dear Grant Herion,

I have lifed months and years without Lyrenzia, I know, how it was before. I don't need to make a try for a month.
And remember the historie! There was the massive wish of citizens to build such a thing like Lyrenzia before. It is a lie, that Lyrenzia came and noone wanted it. It is a lie, that noone was asked to establish Lyrenzia.

And to the next point. If you find it not fair, that Lyrenzia exists, what right has Darlok to proclaim his reign over the nothern territorium? Which right have the bloodskulls to proclaim their right over the ogre cave?
If you complain about Lyrenzia, you have also to complain about Darlok and Bloodskull, as it is the same case.

And to you and your flaws personally. You complain about Lyrenzia on the one side, on the other you use the judicialsystem yourself. You call yourself a follower of Darlok and live in his territorium, but complain about another system, which has the same or no rights as your system, where you live. Sounds more than illogical, what you do here.
As you live under Darlok, you have no right to complain, what happens in Troll's Bane. Go to your master and stay there!

Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin
Councilor of Lyrenzia

Grant Herion wrote:Unknown writer, please look at what you have written before you call me a liar...

Albernon wrote:
Before anyone complains about anymore more bullshit about the injustice of a self proclaimed superpower, think about the fact that you were living in an anarchy in the first place which means you had no rights and the concept of law and justice was simply the whim of the strong in the first place so the appearnace of Lyrenzia is the same concept.

After I used the word anarchy so many times, only someone THAT stupid or desperate to claw some ground in this argument would be stupid enough to claim that I was denying the part about anarchy. Obviously the part I didn't say was Lyrenzia being the light in the darkness.

Grant Herion wrote: Unknown writer, you haven't written your name and you have yet to write your name which shows you insult but are afraid to write your name because the murderer Grant Herion will come for you.

My name is always written on the left of what I write, the section which is reserved for names. Its your own problem that you can only roll your eyes vertical and not horizontal

Grant Herion wrote:]
Secondly, unknown writer, you think all of us are killers when their is no consequence, you seem to think we will all kill ourselves without Lyrenzia and that we desperately need it. If Lyrenzia is so desperately needed, how come at Darlok's ruins and the Bloodskull cave we live happily and only kill when we are attacked? You think maybe Lyrenzia isn't needed?

If you kill someobdy and that person doesn't complain to Lyrenzia, does Lyrenzia trial them? No.
If that person comes to complain, is he happy then? No.

Grant Herion wrote: Why don't we have a test? 1 month without Lyrenzia and lets see what happens. I am sure nothing would change, except people would have more freedom and be able to live outside of Lyrenzia's rules in their own homes.

Freedom to do what? What can you do before that you can't do now? Empty words
Your use of the word freedom in this scenarios just goes to show that you don't know what anarchy means.

The 26th Judicial Trial of the Lyrenzia Foundation has hereby begun:

The charges are:

1) Grant Herion accuses Elaralith of an unjustified attack against himself.
2) Grant Herion accuses Elaralith of murdering himself.

Why am I not surprised?
When you need to get revenge on someone who is too strong for you, you seek Lyrenzia for help.

Then when you want to go slaughter those who are weaker than you, you don't like the fact that Lyrenzia can interfere.

You complain about that Lyrenzia didn't punish Elaralith enough for her crimes, so tell me what punishement would Elaralith have recieved for her crimes if Lyrenzia had not existed?

Well?

Oh I'm SO SURE you would have been able to punish her despite the fact that none of you could catch and kill her, and despite the fact that you had to come to Lyrenzia to charge her.

Apparently she would have had none or lesser punishment.
What a wonderful way for you to show how much you don't need Lyrenzia.

Albernon, I was using Lyrenzia for a more important reason that you will see later on.

Aragon, I see what you are saying that people wanted a government, but they did not want one where people they rarely see rule. They wanted something Kincent is attempting to make, one where you can vote on who is to rule, not some who were just leaders of weathered guilds. Do you see the difference?

Grant