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This is perhaps a mean/insultive/irratating thread, but it's a question I've been chewing on...
When reading posts on the board I can't help notice that you all support each other quite a bit, so the question(s) would be...

1) In game, are you all a tightly knit family?
2) Do you have difficulty accpeting new people?
3) Am I going to be marked for the rest of life due to this post?

Thanks for your time.

- Morgan.

1) Yes, most of us are somewhat close, even if we do bicker and argue sometimes. But then of course they are bitter wars between a couple of people, but for the most part we are nice.
2) On;y if they are powergaming or annoying us, and even if someone is mean to you in game, doesnt mean they really have a problem with you, more just like their character did.
3) I can hardly even remember most of my own posts, let alone what other people posted, and im sure the players with about the same amount, or far more posts than me will probably agree to that.

~~Ark~~

Well it isn't really "us" accepting new people into the community, its our characters.

If you want to get Technical Grobul your write... But if we left the computer and kept our character on, no one would accept anyone now would we?

We're not all closely knit, we do have our little cliques.

Hobbits stick with Hobbits,
Guilds stick with Guilds..
There is mixing, and being on such a little island, does make us sort of like a little village.

Hey, I like you already, your questions are new and interesting.

hobbits dont stick with hobbits as much as orcs stick with orcs, most hobbits have lots of other friends... now lizards... personally i think eveery other lizard on this island is insane, for one... Muten, honestly, and i cant even spend a minute with fooser and dont get me started on ses

i've noticed it too. Lizards are annoying to me, most of them anyways. They scream and yell and it just gets really old really fast.

and all the actual normal lizards, they dissapear, renyu, that one that played a lizard priest, and tsyrthval. And fooser was normal at one time, then... he met paul

Ya its wierd... But i guess they can act wierd because no one knows how a lizard would act...

maybe its mating season for them

I bet it is just go look at Sess'sth

MWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!


Well, to Sess'sth it is mating season right now, so he searches for women, and goes crazy, and throws sand into peoples eyes....... sorry about that, Drathe......

Uhm... are you sure the lizards of Illarion do have something like a "mating season"?
Actually, the background story doesn´t tell anything like that. If there was something like that, all male lizards should act in that way you describe (maybe not exact the same way... throwing sand at humans?).

If I, as an Elf, would tell the people "My nose is turning red everytime I smell fish, elves react that way on fish.", this would be forced RP in some way... or other elves would say that I´d become crazy.

Read more on lizards: http://www.moonsilver.de/english/races/lizardman.htm

Well, Sess'sth is no normal 'lizard'. He is a red, half dragon.

Ah... that explains a lot

But what if I´d say I am an semi-god of the elven pantheon? Hm... I would be in trouble, because everybody would challenge me in some way.

I think mixtures of half gods, half dragons... half uberheroes are not allowed in Illarion... just because you are not able to gain half god, or half dragon powers as a player and therefore can not play your role in a proper way.

ah but certain things like that you can, because just roleplays he has red scales and casts fires like a dragon.

There are no half-dragon Lizards in Illarion.

If he keeps up this 'roleplay' we might disable his character.

Sessth is just a demon lizard who attacks hobbits. or thats what he was last week, Ive been gone (and kinda still am) so hes a half dragon red lizard now eh?

Maybe there should be a rule stating you cannot play nor roleplay this is applies but is not limited to: half-elves,half-halflings,half-dragons,half-heroe/uber warriors, ect.

what's wrong with half elves and half halflings, they wouldn't really have any super powers, like a dragon or something, would they?

I think half elves would be alright since some couples in game have children and the father is a human or elf or vise versa with the mother. There are several people like this like Sun long and Shi long. There are a few others I know. So I think half-elves would be alright as elves and humans are a race that can be played. As a dragon you can't...or demon...or drow, etc.

What do you mean "was" normal?

I think half-(whatever race) is fine since I can guess that human men would be lured by the elven maidens. And human women would be lured by male elves. I can't see a human with a halfling though, a dwarf with a halfling yes. And I can only see lizards with orcs and vice versa...

Lately some people got used to a kind of "roleplay" that really makes me mad. I speak of people RPing their chars, like they would be super heroes.

Some examples:
1) Half dragons are not supported by the system, as are demon-whatever. About vampires and werwolves we had the discussion some weeks ago and the GMs told everyone that you cannot play something the system doesnt support.
2) You shouldnt play your char as being invulnerable to fire if he gets damadge from it. If you call it roleplay to stand in a flame getting damadge and yell around "im not hurt by it" then you should think about how that looks like while your skin curls from the heat. There is a kind of roleplay that only serves to justify PG. And roleplaying something that is technically impossible has not much logic in it.
3) Some chars seem to have an inborn pain immunity. Even if you kill them they come back immidiatelly and insult you again as if their char wouldnt feel any pain and would like get beaten up again. Their players know you will be cautious to kill them again because you dont want to be accused of multikilling. That happened twice to me now. (Btw. Aradhul i doubt letting one`s char being killed by a superiour fighter will increase your skills.)
4) Fighting at the cross to prevent your skills to decrease too much should be labeled PG, especially if it is done again and again. PG is defined as an action which is done repeatedly without any IG reason only to increase a skill. In my eyes fighting only there to prevent a decrease is just the same. And it is butchering RP if i have to argue with Aradhul for an quarter of an hour, because he wanted to fight at the north gate instead of the east gate because the way to the cross would be too long. The whole conversation hadnt any IG reason and wasnt plausible.
4) A "#me eats the hobbit" is rather ridiculous as he is technically still standing in front of you. You cant expect the player to just suicide because of such "roleplay" and you cant expect the Char not to move or fight back in order not to be eaten aswell. Give your fellow players a chance to react on what you are doing you cant use a #me to determine what they are doing.

I would prefer if you would stick to what is technically possible and implemented in the game.

My final question is, why do that many people have to play a superhero-like char, who is immune to pain and fire, fearless, a half breed with mighty fantasy creatures and who eats(knocks you unconscious/uses a just invented sleep poison on you) you without any chance for your char to react? Is it really that boring to play a "normal" person, as if you could call a two legged lizard race normal or a race that lives for thousands of years? A person, who might not be so keen on dying immidiatelly after he got beaten to death, because his player thinks he can raise his skill this way?

Yes, that #me is eaten was particularily annoying...
He expected me to play dead, and if it was meant only as a joke, it disturbed the atmosphere.

As to the way lizards act nowadays...I am of the opinion that they are all mimicking...*shudder* Jar Jar Binks...