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Ok, i know reskilling (respawn killing) is against the rules, BUT, if you kill them walk somewhere and they come back trying to attack you again and again, can that really be considered your fault and against the rules? I would think it as more self defense.

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Multikilling-depend on situation.

If they attack you again and again its only self defence if you kill them.

But if you attack them without a new reason. Then its illegal.

If they attack multiple times then you can defend yourself multiple times. In my opinion multiple suicide for no very good reason is as bad as multiple Killing for no very good reason.

Fedaykin wrote:If they attack you again and again its only self defence if you kill them.

Then how come I was banned for it once?

Paul, Maybe The Gm's didn't know it was self-defence. Did you try to explain?

maktan you have nooooooo idea how he tried to explain look back in teh general forums for it

can you tell me the title? I would love to see at pauls attempts to explain

Shut the hell up Maktan.

I say we make national "Die Maktan" day.

i agree with paul again

From what I read, Paul was banned before he even had a chance to explain. Then it was too late.

And there were even witnesses who said that I didn't do anything, but, oh well... whats past is past...But I still hold a grudge!

So so Pauli had never the chance to explain it?

And what is this?

General PM questions

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Pauli had two long topics, where he explained what happend, over the ban cried and so one.

The evidence does seem in pauls favor... Hmm... But what about Pauls personality... Hmm... There should have been opposing evidence shown.

Fieps wrote:So so Pauli had never the chance to explain it?

And what is this?

General PM questions

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Pauli had two long topics, where he explained what happend, over the ban cried and so one.

Yes I know that. What I was saying is that he never got a chance to defend himself BEFORE the ban. All those discussions occured AFTER the ban.

But none of this matters because the GMs can ban someone without a reason. I just think that to be fair they should have concrete, solid proof of the violation. Which in his case it sounds like the proof was not solid.

After speaking to a former GM, I found out that one of the GMs was going through the logs when they saw that Paul Laffing had killed someone within a very short amount of time. *Shrugs* Oh, and I'm speaking on this screen name because I think my other one was blocked.

Crocket, Paul was found guilty to two (2) killings within a very short amount of time. However Paul's friends (From now on I use the term PHKTPBMTW -People He Killed The Poor Bastard Multiple Times With- to avoid any aruing about wether they are his friends or not) killed the guy total of 13 times. GM saw him also partially responsible for the doings of other PHKTPBMTW's. Paul does not realize that he could have been deleted for those things that HE did alone. Paul is the only one who made a show out of his 'misery' while the two other PHKTPBMTW's banned manly (I quote Serpardum) 'took it on the chin'. As he said: No one who has been banned has agree with, EVER.

Why should Paul be any exception of this rule?
Oh yeah, what shows Paul's respect to GM's was the fact that he sent PM's to serpardum even after he had been threatened with permban if he continued that. That certainly speaks for itself.

The GM's don't ban people for no reason, Paul and Crocket. They could, but they wont. It's like saying that US army could execute everyone in alabama, they propably could but why would they do that?

Short answer.

Every single Killing without a good Rp reason is against the server Rules.

Please, Thanks, Bye

Crocket, see it as imprisonment on remand.

If the police believe, that somebody is guilty, they don´t wait until he is guiltily spoken by the court. They imprison him directly to avert new possible crimes.

But paul was counted guilty before he even post evidence for himself. Why not the american system innocent till proven guilty? I still did not see any evidence that paul is guilty.

how about you guys bicker in pm's ?

@Fieps
Good point. I hadn't looked at it that way.

@Maktan
In America they still throw you in jail even if they don't have proof to avoid possible other crimes (like Fieps said). You can post bail and get out of jail until your court date. Then the proof is presented to the court.

@ Crocket That Example would be good if there was a court and paul allowed to point out his position but as far as i can see it was "You go to jail, you have no right to an attorny, you have no right to speak, You are guilty till proven guilty, you will except your punishment or get worse" ((illarion's miranda rights))

Caranthir the not so great wrote:It's like saying that US army could execute everyone in alabama, they propably could but why would they do that?

Ever hear of Kent, Ohio? Neil Young did.

I accept it! I was guilty of a crime I didn't commit! Now everyone stop arguing about it.