Some new Graphics

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:07 pm

Here are some new Graphics I made using the 3D Canvas. I hope you enjoy them...

http://www.geocities.com/bweillarion/graphics#.html

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 3:52 pm

the ice crytstal is pretty good. the raft logs are tied together using rope not squares

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Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:05 pm

yeah, I know.....I tried for a while to get something that looked like rope, that might be the best I can do. If I get more complaints, I will try to correct it. From the point of view from Illarion though, it might be too small to see.

Maybe?

anyway...

Im glad you enjoyed my ice crystal

Farmar · Post by **Farmar** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:37 pm

cool graphics man whats with the triangle raft though

Armil Darken · Post by **Armil Darken** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:55 pm

So martin doesnt have to say iy...sorry but.

CRAP!!

martin · Post by **martin** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:15 pm

http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e9525060/IllaScreenshot.jpg

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:19 pm

Haha Martin you should do that more often! you are killing me! Ha Ha Harolls on the ground and have heart attack

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:21 pm

Yeah yeah......I am getting there, just give me some time...

Stag · Post by **Stag** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:01 pm

You sould resize and turn the objects around before putting them in a scene, ir youll lose prespective. like you did in this one

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:38 pm

Hehehehe...
That was a different way of dealing with that, Martin.

martin · Post by **martin** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:44 pm

I always try to do things in a different way.
If you want to implicitly accuse me of becoming more friendly, you're commiting a mistake. I will always try to write the truth regardless of what people want to hear (or don't want to hear). Moreover this way I've chosen here is much more offending than every other criticism of mine before: because it clearly shows how stupid this is.

Martin

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:57 pm

I think those look perfect in the game. ^^

Freo · Post by **Freo** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:43 pm

and to martin we present the award for the funniest way to insult someone:

here you go

hands martin the crystal thing

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:56 pm

hey! the crystal isnt that bad, its reflective at least. Can you export things from 3dc? i think i could make your crystal look good

i can use almost anything exept for .pp# or .3dc

Freo · Post by **Freo** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:19 am

its not that they are bad, it more like they dont belong with the other illarion graphics, they are not the right size, and they are at slightly wrong angles. maybe runescape will use them((not an insult!)).

Stag · Post by **Stag** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:21 am

Thats what i said! didnt you read the rest of the posts?

Freo · Post by **Freo** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:33 am

I was talking to gro'bul

gro'bul wrote: hey! the crystal isnt that bad, its reflective at least

I wrote: its not that they are bad, it more like they dont belong with the other illarion graphics, they are not the right size, and they are at slightly wrong angles.

the question is, did you read the rest of the posts??

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:38 am

I know they are too big. I know they are not the right angles. I was just showing you what I had so far.

I have to share a computer with my family so I dont get a bunch of time to work on my 3D Canvas. usually when i get time to play I play illarion instead of make graphics.

I have some other Graphics that should be coming soon to my webpage. I dont think they are as good....depends on how you look at it. I made a dart that you could use as a weapon or something. You'll see when it arrives.

@Gro'bul I am not very computer-lingual so I dont think I can help you there, sorry

Seth Valor · Post by **Seth Valor** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:57 pm

Wow! I was really impressed with your ice crystal Gerard! The raft wasnt too bad exept for the sale....it needs some texture. Then it'd be pretty cool. And the potion was neat, although, are you supposed to be seeing the outside of the bottle or the potion inside? well anyway. Your stuff is pretty cool.

Obviously a lot of people like to insult than try themselves.

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:13 pm

I re-sized the things, and it looks a bit better this way.
http://www.geocities.com/bweillarion/graphics2

Freo · Post by **Freo** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:27 pm

jar thing is still too big, and the raft and crystal thing are stilll at slightly wrong angles

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:40 pm

If someone can give me the sizes for the bottle than I can just make it. I do not know exactly what size to make it. I just kind of do it and hope its right. Same thing with the angles. I will try again though.

Thanks for the compliment Seth.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:10 pm

the potion has a very weird texture on it, doesnt look like any liquid or glass ive ever seen

Darlok · Post by **Darlok** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:14 pm

Gerad, did you read the Grafic FAQ? Maybe many of your Questions will be answered there.

Also, if you dont know the Size of an Object, why dont you take a Screenshot (maybe from a Bottle) and compare it with your Objects?

Also, paste your Objects in this Screenshot (Like Martin did) and look if they fit into the 'Atmosphere'.

Until now, i dont think your Items are valuable for Illarion.

martin · Post by **martin** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:42 pm

The perspective isn't even close to what it is supposed to be (not talking about the rest). This is a basic skill of someone doing graphics: using the eyes ("see", "visual sense"). It's like someone who doesn't know how to start or drive a car but wants to participate in a car race. It won't work until you found out what a car is.

Didn't you notice that objects do NOT get smaller if they are far away in illarion? Didn't you notice that after reading the FAQ? Probably you are not able to drive the car. (=know how to achieve that perspective with the program you use)

Martin

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:20 am

Thanks for the advice guys. I will try again. The bottle potion's design isnt liquid, That would be stupid. liquid mixes together instead of staying in boxes. The colors are only a design on the outside of the bottle to seperate it from the other bottles. So maybe it could be some kind of special potion that restores your health and manna completely or something like that.

anyways.....
When I made the angles of my objects, I wasnt thinking of Illarion. I was just thinking of a cool angle to put my objects in where the light would shine good on them.

@martin I know the raft and crystal thing would have to be with the illarion angles, but what about my potion. If the potion was an item than I think the angle would be good ((I noticed that all the items in illarion dont really have a designated angle)). Am I correct?

martin · Post by **martin** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:27 am

Only the items we are going to throw away have the wrong perspective.

That makes it difficult for part-time-graphic-people to participate.

Martin

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:53 am

So......my potion wont work? do I have to change the perspective on that?

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:51 am

Honestly, the probability that your things get implemented is very, very low. There are people out there, including me, who create a potion in some minutes, render it, make several different versions and that's it. We do not need advice how to use the program we use, we don't need to be told about the perspective, we know what size it needs, we know how it must look like in order to fit to the other things.

That means that it's much less time consuming.

Don't be mad at me, but: What you produce doesn't look that good, you need more time than we do, you need advice about perspective, size, shape, look, position etc.; in the time needed to explain everything (which I, BTW, already explained in the FAQ which nobody seems to care about; I find that extremely unfriendly and ignorant if not offending and insulting!!!!!!!) I could make 20 potions which look better, have the correct size, correct perspective and fit to the other items in the game. So, what's the point then?

Martin

Gerard Hugh · Post by **Gerard Hugh** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 5:55 pm

I understand, maybe I can send something way better in the future. I look forward to having another conversation with you again someday.

discussion closed.....