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Can't connect and I am desperate.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 2:09 am
by Riordain
Welcome.
I have following problem : I cannot connect, I do not have an account, because it is written that first the character must be created. But, when I click create new, with fields name and password filled as somebody somewhere in "Accounts" board of this forum suggested, nothing happens for about 30-40 sec and I get following messages: WSATIMEDOUT, then Server offline or no internet connection available, can't connect. When I tried pressing log in not create new, of course black screen with stylish and encouraging mouse pointer appeared, but then 40 sec of nothing and back again the black of the screen is enlighted by this set of messages.
I do not suppose there can be any problem with my hardware. DX 8.1. I am sure that the problem is internet connection. It is provided by LAN, our server also is a part of other infranet, unfortunately I am not able to give any details more , but this set of computers between proves to be more than a firewall in this case... The question is , can Illarion client be reconfigured in any way to use different ports or is any other thing I can do? Is there anything I can change in configuration of my own computer that will help here?
I really tried many games and yesterday I found Illarion. I am totally fed up with "so called RPGs" and my crate of patience was spilled two day ago at Tibia, when somebody presented me with a bolt in my stomach, almost killed me and said it was a misclick because he wanted just to check my character's level. Gs I had enough, but I want, need and starve for some RP now... and Illarion seemed to be a cure. Please, help me, I really do not want to leave Illarion definitely behind , with nice mouse pointer as all I experienced of it.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 3:24 am
by Hermie
Hello, you sound like a really good roleplayer so I decided to do a little searching for you. I came up with the following:
http://www.illarion.org/community/forum ... saetimeout
Hope it helps!

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 3:40 am
by Shi'voc
your firewall must allow you to connect to illarion.org port 3012
otherwise the client can not access the server..
if you can't access this port, there is no way to play tis game.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:07 pm
by Riordain
Thanks to all. Now I know the port I will try to do something... It is a pity that the problem in the link I have been given seems to be not solved. Any other advices, anybody? Anything else that can help me?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:37 pm
by Kalypse
Welcome to the world of Illarion, I am sure you will enjoy it if you are lucky to find the right people..hihi My guess on your problem is that you do not have an account so far, so you will most likely get a black screen when you try to log in or something like that. I suggest that you create the characters you want and send an application form for your account. As soon as you have it you will be able to play normally.. I really doubt its something wrong with your computer because I am in pretty much the same situation. Good luck with your application!

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:43 pm
by Darlok
I get following messages: WSATIMEDOUT, then Server offline or no internet connection available, can't connect.
That is not the error-message for a not approved account.
I think Shi'Voc has shown a possible solution.
The only other thing i can think of is, that the server was down at the time he wanted to create his character.
Sorry, but i not much of help here.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:48 pm
by Riordain
No, I think I have been misunderstood - my problme is that I cannot even create a character due to missing connection - absolutely by the way, my character would be of elven race, noble Elder... Have I already found one right person?
Yes Shi'vok was right. But has anybody idea how to reroute it to another port somehow? I am not capable of changing anything except my own computer configuration. And port is certainly blocked somewhere on the way.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:26 pm
by Shi'voc
bad luck then... either you have access to a server on the net somewhere which can access the target port and will do the routing for you or you won't be able to play...
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:31 pm
by Bror
Shi'voc wrote:your firewall must allow you to connect to illarion.org port 3012
It is port 3008 ! (3012 is testserver - No all you people out there, you CAN'T connect with YOUR client to the testserver).
Anyway, like Shi'voc said, you normaly would need access to the server of your company to change its configuration.
I could imagine another solution if there was a server out there in the internet, that would allow connecting via an "open" port of your company (like HTTP port) and translates this connection to another port.
I don't know if there is a thing like this out there, but it should be technical possible (although maybe a client on your end of the connection would be needed too).
PS: most things that are technicaly possible and needed commonly (like your problem) are somewhere out there, if you search for it...
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 2:28 am
by Riordain
Hm, I will try to find or write something like this... one server translates 3008 signals to another port, I receive it , translate back on my own end to 3008 for client to work... Hm, see if that will work (or can it work

? ) Thanks
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 1:21 pm
by Shi'voc
ups... mixed that up

sure 3008

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 5:03 pm
by Bror
Riordain wrote:Hm, I will try to find or write something like this... one server translates 3008 signals to another port, I receive it , translate back on my own end to 3008 for client to work... Hm, see if that will work (or can it work :)? ) Thanks
This "translating server" must work outside of the LAN (or inside if he has unlimited internet access).
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:42 am
by Thereadore
Depending on your setup you may already have that. See if you have what's called a "socks proxy". If you do have a socks proxy server, then you have to download and install a socks proxy client.
If not, then see if you can get port 3008 opened up through the firewall.
If you can't, then you will need to do something like you said. It wouldn't be a hard program to write, if you knew socks, but your problem is going to be that it is going to have to run on a machine/server that is both inside and outside the internet. This would probably be your firewall or proxy server.
Also, if you are running windows XP I understand that XP automatically blocks ports, or something like that. I really don't know for sure, it is just a rumor I heard.
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 3:34 pm
by Captain Kirk
Hallo
if you use win XP disable the built in firewall or configure it too for allowing outbound connections (tcp 3008)
or just ask your admin to allow outbound connections (tcp port 3008)
the wsa message has nothing to do with the account.
the message means the target is not reachable (could be a firewall, crashed router, the game service is off or the whole server is down)
Bye
Read ya
MfG
Capt. Kirk
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:03 pm
by Bror
Thereadore wrote:Depending on your setup you may already have that. See if you have what's called a "socks proxy". If you do have a socks proxy server, then you have to download and install a socks proxy client.
Can this realy work? From my understanding it is not possible to have such a program ony our own computer, since:
- the program can only use open ports (like HTTP, NOT 3008)
- the Illarion server is accepting game connections only on 3008
=> The connection to the game server must be made from outside the network, else it is blocked.
As I pointed out, it should be possible to connect to another server outside the LAN using an open port and do a connection using port 3008 from that server to the Illarion machine.
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 10:33 pm
by Thereadore
A socks proxy is a different type of thing. A socks proxy server will accept connections on some port and forward those connections to another server on that port.
They are not real common, but they do exist. Programs such as Netscape and Internet explorer have settings for socks proxies, so you enter the socks proxy server and they take care of if themselves.
For programs that don't know socks, you need to get a socks proxy client that forwards the connections to the socks proxy servers.
The communication goes something like this:
Program A wants to connect to illarion.org 3008. The socks proxy connects to the socks proxy server on some random port, and tells the socks proxy server it wants to connect to illarion.org 3008. The socks proxy server initiates a connection to illarion.org 3008 and forwards and packets to the open port established with program A on the client machine.
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:16 pm
by Bror
Thereadore wrote:A socks proxy is a different type of thing. A socks proxy server will accept connections on some port and forward those connections to another server on that port.
So there is a server running outside the LAN and a client inside, right? If this is so, I might have understood it now and it should work.
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:34 pm
by Thereadore
Yes. There is the socks proxy server, which is usually also a web proxy server, and this sits on both LANs, the internet and the intranet. It is a type of firewall.
The client machine is only on the intranet, and it talks to the socks proxy server and the socks proxy server talks to the internet.