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Ich denke, dieser Vorschlag wurde noch nicht gemacht:
Wie wäre es mit einer Steinschleuder? Gerade unsere kleinen Freunde, die
Halblinge, würden sich sicher über eine solche Waffe freuen.
Die Steinschleuder könnte eine einhändige Fernwaffe mit mittlerer Reichweite
und niedriger Durchschlagswirkung sein. Sie sollte aus Leder herzustellen sein,
die Steine könnte man in den Bergen auflesen und am Schleifstein zu mit der Schleuder
verschießbaren Steinen schleifen. Denkbar wären auch gegossene Kugeln aus Metall,
die dann ein Schmied herzustellen hätte.

Die Waffe könnte eine Bereicherung des Spiels sein, da sie einfach herzustellen ist
und die Munition billig und verfügbar ist.

Eure Belegi

English summary: I propose a sling. It would be a one handed ranged weapon, the stones for it you could dig for in the rocks.

I like the idea. Tailors could make the slings from leather and the rocks could be part of the mining skill.

Mal ne kurze Frage: Was soll man denn mit einer Schleuder erledigen können? Einem Ritter in voller Rüstung mit allem drum und dran macht so ein Stein wohl nicht wirklich was aus. Dem Dämon mit einer Schleuder gegenüber zu stehen, stell ich mir auch nicht allzu sinnvoll vor.
Wo ich eine Schleuder wirklich nützlich fände, wäre bei der Jagd auf kleinere Tiere, aber die gibt's ja leider in Illarion (noch) nicht

From what I understand you are saying, there is no point in having a sling as it would be ineffective against well armoured people or big creatures. This is partly true though dont forget david killed Goliath with a sling. Also not everyone in medieval times was heavily armoured. I would put this into German through my translator site but its not good.

Ellaron wrote:From what I understand you are saying, there is no point in having a sling as it would be ineffective against well armoured people or big creatures. This is partly true though dont forget david killed Goliath with a sling. Also not everyone in medieval times was heavily armoured. I would put this into German through my translator site but its not good.

Kurze Übersetzung von Ellarons Text/Short Translation of Ellaron's text: Obige Einwände meinerseits sind nur teilweise richtig, da a) David Goliath mit einer Schleuder getötet hat und b) im Mittelalter nicht alle mit voller Rüstung herum gelaufen sind...

Yes that's right, David killed Goliath with such a sling. But you have to hit the temple (?) to kill anyone, don't you? And in my opinion it's very difficult to hit this small point.

Der Einwand stimmt, David hat Goliath mit der Schleuder getötet, aber um jemanden zu töten muss man ihn an der Schläfe treffen, richtig? Und das denke ich, ist ziemlich schwierig jemanden mit einer Schleuder an einem ganz bestimmten, ziemlich kleinen Punkt zu treffen. Ich kenn mich mit Schleudern nicht wirklich aus, aber kann man damit gut auf einen bestimmten Punkt zielen?

Sure, you can´t scare a demon with a sling, but that´s not a reason not to introduce a sling into the game I think. In my opinion this game doesn´t deal with the way to get the best weapon... but all of you might know that.

Often ancient armies like greec or persian armies had a group of sling-man with them, so such a weapon does not only fit the needs of a huntsman.

Yours
Belegi

If used correctly a sling can be as an effective weapon as a throwing star.

A sling in David's time would be the closest they had to a gun.

David was a sheep herder and actually killed lions and wolfs and such with his sling, that's how be became so good at it.

For someone with a high dexterity and low strength, a sling would be the most effective weapon for them. More effective than a sword or spear.

Why didn't David use a bow and arrow? Well, he was a sheep herder, they didn't always have much money but used what they could, and I believe the sling was their weapon of choice.

A sling might be a good idea to bring into the game.

How would it compare to a bow and arrow?

It would do less damage, but perhaps be quicker?

Any thoughts?

i see a problem here...

a bow and arrow are faster than a sling --> sling has to be xxxx (dont know the proper word for it - but you sort of swing it like a lasso) before you can shoot the stone or iron ball...

when it comes to damage... arrows are piercing weapons while a stone would sort of "crushing impact" weapon... what i am trying to say is that you would have to land a 100% hit on most players to make serious "life taking" damage to them

you could sort of compare it to somebody boxing you... by boxing somebody you will most likely not kill him, because the damage you inflict is of another sort than to stab somebody with a knife...

the main problem i see here is... how is a stone going to penetrate plate armour? chainmail is different... you would at least "feel" the impact of the stone (similar to having a bullet-proof shirt on when somebody shoots you) - but i would definately not count shields in... i mean i would not let shields be able to block stones or iron balls... because they come in very quick (faster than an arrow and they are smaller than arrow)

maybe this was some help... *shrugs*
hopefully i didnt just steal your time here *winks*

Well, okay, maybe then a sling does very little damage, but has a higher percentage chance of doing a "critical" hit (which we really don't have right now anyway).

David did kill Goliath with a sling. So it is possible.