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Bror, I need to know something here!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:34 am
by Lord Chaos
Ok, the other day, sean had been PK, the normal.  This halfling who nobody had done anything to, decided to play archer and shoot me with arrows while i had my wand equipped, right in front of a GM!  I think he was also the one who was repeatedly killing Elvon.  His number was 12242, i am sure.  Could you please tell me his name?  Thanks in advance.

Bror, I need to know something here!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 8:45 am
by Rune Scape
how did you know it was the halfling? anyone coulda arched.

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 10:54 am
by Dyluck
i think the halfling was spainiard aka Rune Scape

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2001 7:16 pm
by Lord Chaos
That comment was very suspicious Rune Scape...  Thanks Dyluck, i also got the same name from sean.  Sean apparently wants to hunt him too strangely enough...

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 1:11 am
by Peace Keeper
man, this place is becoming a mess...  ppl are hunting Sean down, Sean's hunting ppl down, and ppl's hunting the same ppl Sean's hunting down...  bleh, I don't even know who's hunting who down no more...  

Bror, I need to know something here!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 2:29 am
by Lord Chaos
I am for now hunting WITH sean.  Spaniard is our main target.  Beware!

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 7:12 am
by Drunk Mage Dipstick
pkers hunting pkers.but in the end ANYONE who kills is a pk?

i think so

#me laughs and walks away

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 7:52 am
by Aragon
If someone is a PK and killing people without a rpg-reason (and killing every person stupidly for Moshran is no rpg-reason!), than, the only way to avoid it, is a mail to gods@illarion.de with the time/date and the names/numbers of the chars.
If you will hunt down this person (and I understand your meaning "hunt down" in the way, that you kill him as often as you can, to minimize his skills), than you aren't worth better, than the PK! You only enforce people to go on killing and taking revenge for killing and it will go on for ever. This is my opinion.
Think about it!

Bror, I need to know something here!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 8:02 am
by Dax
<Looks at all the posts and a glimmer hits his eyes>

Pk's hunting Pk's indeed.

<grins> Perhaps.. thats Exactly what we need.

<Begins jotting a few ideas in the sand>

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 9:30 am
by Spanaird
If pk's hunt pk's eventually everyone in Illarionwill be hunted ;) So if you want to hunt me down bring it.But you may start a whole chain of events.

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 10:08 am
by Gurok
I do not agree with what many of you are saying about pk's killing pk's.  In my opinion, if I know that a person is a pk, I will use Spaniard as an example, just an example mind you, then I view him as a very dangerous murderer that is loose in town, not as a 'pk' as many of you say.  Then when I see him I kill him as punishment for his crimes.  Now that he is dead, he is no longer a murderer in my mind, he is a new soul in the same body.  This way it can all be delt with reasonably.  I do not resurect him, I leave him to walk to the cross and beg for a new soul.  This way I am not a pk, just a law obiding citizen of Illarion who is doing his civil duty to make the town a safer place.  The only trouble with this plan is when some people REALLY have no idea what role playing is and run back to where I am and attack me for killing them for being a murderer.  This is the point that it is best to just send a message to the gods.  I understand what Aragorn was saying about it being pointless to get into a pk war with each other, nothing good can come of that.  Its just that I hate to have to ask others for help when it comes to some spoiled brat of a kid (in most cases) that can't understand what role playing is and keeps attacking for past events.  These are the people you have to either tell them to leave Illarion or ask the gods to  make them leave for good.  I generally try my law obiding citizen plan with the newer pk's/murderers, because they are generally new and dont know how to role play yet.  This way they will learn the hard way what is allowed and what is not, and how to deal with it in an orderely fashon.  The older murderers/pks are the ones that I would probably just go straight to the gods if I had to.  

I would never have been able to become the orc that I am today if someone had run crying to the gods when I first came here and tried to kill every dwarf I saw.  If not for the noble people that tought me how to be a more peaceful orc and how to enjoy the other aspects of life, I would have been sent away many months ago.  Thank you kind people that have changed my life.  I hope that others can learn from what I went through, the recovery from hopeless (attempted) pker to become a guild leader and to learn that everyone can change if you just give them a chance.  I now most of this didnt make any sense but I just needed to let my feelings be known.  I really get angry when older players go crying and email the gods everytime a new person in town kills someone.  They just assume that the new player is a pk when usually they accidently killed another person or they had a reason but the older players are just not willing to listen to what it is.  I think that if you have a problem with a person you solve it one on one, face to face, talk first then fight if need be.  But once that is over, it should be dropped.  And if it cant then one of the two people should just leave.  An example I can give is from a few nights ago when sean-san and deceptikon got into a fight near the cross.  The ended up killing each other around 30 time each because nither of them could suck it up and walk away.  These are the kind of acts that I think warrent being banned from the game.  Not just killing one or two people if you have your own reason or for making fun of another character's family (sean-san this is about you again).  Im sure bror and co. have enough problems to deal with here that they don't want to be troubled with your constant complaints about trivial things, just live and let live.  Come on people grow up and just have fun here, thats what its all about anyway.

wow, sorry for the rambelings.  I should probably look for a publisher to make that into a book or something.  

Bror, I need to know something here!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 12:11 pm
by Spanaird
Amen to THAT!

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 12:23 pm
by Aragon
@ Gurok
Sure, I agree with all of your words Gurok. And I also admit, that talking and giving a second chance is a much better way, than fighting and killing.
My point was only, that *if* someone behaves like a PK and there were attempts to talk to him, and he wouldn't change his way, than a mail would be better.
And for sure, if someone attacks me or attacks a friend, for whom I'm responsible for, I will talk to him and than perhaps, if it is nessecary, kill him once. After that, for me, it is finished, if he doesn't attack once more.
But I don't like these "hunting down" messages in the meaning, I said above, cause I think, they made it more worse than better.