I can see that this is clearly a knee-jerk reaction to there being consequences for your characters actions, but allow me to clarify some things:
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
- Town player leaders can abuse of this tool, such as PO Katharina Brightrim does, banning my char for whatever reasons
Whether or not the tool is being abused is not for you to determine.
Additionally, pointing fingers like you are doing is against our "Forum and Chat" rule.
Of course, banning someone for "whatever reasons" via an in game mechanic, without proper associated RP or logical reasoning behind the character doing so, should be looked into by a GM. Though this is clearly not the case here, as seen by the official declaration of the ban here
viewtopic.php?f=89&p=715475#p715475.
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
- It makes players lazy, as they can solve via mechanisms something that should be solved by players and their chars
Lazy players? You mean like making a forum post about something that should clearly be solved by the chars in game?
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
- It favors inactive players who can make some clicks and come back the their inactivity
This point is moot. Inactive players would not be player leaders to begin with, and thus not hold the power to "make some clicks" to ban a character from the realm.
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
- Inactive players can spoil the game for active players doing nothing RPish, by not allowing them to enter towns and use tools, etc
The moot point of inactivity aside: There are consequences for your characters actions. Some include the non"RPish" aspects of the game, like access to a realms tools.
Why would the town allow someone whom they deem a threat to the realm, to the point of issuing a ban, allow for said person to freely use their tools?
You can not simply separate "RPish" and non"RPish" aspects of the game. Even said non"RPish" aspects of the game must follow RP logic, be accompanied by emotes, and so on. This is stated clearly in the game rules.
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
- Kind of forced RP, specially when it unjustified
Whether or not a ban is justified is something to deal with in character, not out of character.
As for "forced RP":
"So called power-emotes that force a behaviour or an effect on other characters and leave no room for reaction are forbidden."
Your character is not allowed to enter Cadomyr for the duration of the ban. There are plenty of ways to react to this.
Hell, in your case specifically, Katharina even included in the announcement that it was only temporary and that she would seek out Bidukan for his side of the story.
If that is not allowing for reaction, then I don't know what would qualify.
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
While I'm aware town bans can't be just deleted as the bad guys would come and massacre civilians
Just for the sake of the argument. IF the town bans were to be removed, then it would still not be permissible for the "bad guys" to come and massacre civilians.
"The purposeful attacking of a character without clearly traceable and reasonable roleplaying reason is forbidden. Immediate killing of a character right after resurrection ("res-killing") is not allowed."
In addition to the rule above, even if the guard does not mechanically prevent you from attacking someone, that does not mean the guard does not exist. Same as presently, you can not just kill someone in front of a guard NPC just because the engine limitations make it so the guard NPC will not react unless a GM is present or you are currently banned and trying to enter the town. RP logic dictates that the guard NPC would step forth to defend a civilian in need, upon witnessing such an attack. Ignoring that would be a breach of the "realism" rule.
Bidukan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
- Find a way to make harder for town leaders to set a ban
It already has plenty of limitations.
1. You have to have qualified to be a town leader in the first place.
2. The character you want to ban has to be online for it to work.
3. You can only ban a character for a short duration.
Any longer bans have to be set by GMs upon player leaders request, as such any longer ban has already been approved by the GM and is definitely not so called "abuse".
Additionally, given that this is the proposals board, here are some relevant quotes from the guidelines for making a proposal (
viewtopic.php?f=94&t=38019)
Makes no unsupported assumptions
You're making some heavy assumptions regarding what is abuse, what reasons are needed for such a ban, and how the ban system works. Next time you should try to learn more about the system before you make a proposal post.
Shows a knowledge of the workings of the game and research into past proposals (is not repeating a proposal already denied).
There have been several threads like this in the past. This post is adding nothing new that those proposals did not already cover, something you would know if you had researched past proposals on the topic. Next time you should research before making a post in the proposals board.