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Since there's a few suggestions as to what to name our rivers in a previous thread, I thought I'd run a poll. Let's start with the river that runs between the tavern and the main streets of Troll's Bane.
I suppose you can still add suggestions if you like.

Kringin scratches his head... uh well how about "Frozen Eternal" , heh just kidding
How about "Saphire River"
I really dont favor half and i dont understand half so oh well

I guess I'll add Saphire River to the selection, although I'm not sure about the spelling.

Hmm ... I'm not so keen on any of the names, sorry

Trolls Vein is a cool one

Fairy's Tears!!

I'm for Troll's Vein for the southern river. It just fits.

I like Abhainn myself.

PS: I think it was meant to be "Saphire", but maybe not...

how about the Drogla River?
jsut joking. i really didnt see an appeling name. maybe something mroe...comemoritave of the most well known people?. take the d from Drogla, M from Mishrack, the Y from Dyluck, and letters from some other people. put them together for the name of the river=)
jsut my idea

I think Troll's Veine doesn't sound nice in a german translation...

Sorry but it's impossible for every name to sound good in both languages. I can't think of a way around this problem. Don't people of the other language call the town Troll's Bane instead of a direct translation in their language? I think they should just do that for the river's name as well.

Saphire river sounds the most pleasing to me

Hm..if only I could re-cast my vote as Sapphire River this time...DRAT.

well, can't you just think of a synonym for "vein" that Does sound good in german?

In english we coudl use:
Vein
vessel
arterie
etc..

I don't think those other synomyms would sound good in english though, and it doesn't have the same ring with Troll's Bane like Troll's Vein does.

But you see...if its a synonym...We could still call it Trolls Vein, and the German-speaking people could call it the german word for Arterie or Vessel...I mean sure, its a little different still...but I think what Serpardum is saying is that its a close compromise.

Exactly.

And if some german is very artistic perhaps they could think of a synonym for vein in german that was a rhyme for bane/vein.

English people would still call it Troll's Vein and the German would call it whatever it is that sounds better.

So I give this challenge: who can come up with a german synonym (meaning the same thing or close to the same thing) as vein that would sound good. For an added bonus, one that rhymes with bane/vein.

some (poor) examples.
Ader
Behalter
Arterie
Blut
Schiff ( a ship, which is a vessel, which is a vein... )
Boot ( a boat, which is a vessel which is a vein...)

Be creative.

I think there should be added another name to your poll. The river crosses the tavern? So why not "Drunken River" or "The Drunken One"...

Just my thoughts.

For the Germans:

Als Übersetzung für "Troll's Vein" könnte man doch "Trollader" annehmen. Das hat zwar nicht mehr den Reim auf "Troll's Bane", aber es klingt brauchbar.

Why should we translate it at all? We don't do it with Troll's Bane, so why with Troll's Vein?
I like the rhyme of Bane and Vein, and I also like the sense of it. The river is floating through the town just like a vein, a vein of life.
I think, it's the only right name for it.

Leider vermag ich nicht in englisch zu schreiben. Vielleicht mag es wer übersetzten.
Ich denke daß Trolls Vane zwar passend, doch ein recht grausamer Name ist, erinnert er mich doch an das viele Blut, das immer wieder sinnlos vergossen wird. Vielleicht fällt die Entscheidung auf einen weniger traurigen Namen.

Sir Giandor said:
I think that Trolls Vein is a suitably, but a quite cruel name, reminding me of much blood, which is poured senselessly again and again. Perhaps the decision falls on a less sad name.


Dear Sir Giandor,
don't see only the negativ side.
Could you live without a vein? Can Troll's Bane live without water?
It's spending life for everyone.The fisherman lives from what they catch, the mill doesn't work without water and we druids need the water for mixing our drinks.
I think, that's all very positiv, isn't it?

Yes, this is the image that the name Troll's Vein is supposed to create, the feeling that the river is a very important part of our lives and survival that we can't live without, because it brings us water and fish.

i cant wait til i am born unto this world and can drink from the Trolls vein (my choice).

I see. I was wrong. I agree with Trolls Vane. And thx for your translation.

@sun
yery true. theres absolutly no need in translating that name. the use of english terms is pretty common in our german language.

Hmm.. does that make the name of our main street
Troll's Main?
Or Troll's Lane?

And Niniane... is she a
Troll's Dame?

And of course that makes King (Monarch) of the Roof a
Troll's Game.

Of are all these rhymes just a
Troll's Pain.

So good to see you are feeling downright poetic Serpardum

a artist like you has truely earned Troll's Fame.
but none knows about the peotic site of yours.. thats Troll's Shame