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Logs

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:09 pm
by HolyKnight
How many characters till it starts overwriting?

Re: Logs

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:23 pm
by Djironnyma
AFAIK it overwrites never

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:52 pm
by HolyKnight
Don't say anything Lama. Does it if you are using a Mac?

Re: Logs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:05 pm
by Kevin Lightdot
If you're using a mac you have a chance of it exploding when it has to many logs.

But eitherway, I doubt there's really a limit to the amount of stuff you can ram into a txt file exept the limit that your file system places on it, no idea what that is on a mac, but that'll surely be above 4GB.

If you have a log that big you should seriously consider rehab.

Re: Logs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:52 pm
by Alli Zelos
Kevin Lightdot wrote: If you have a log that big you should seriously consider rehab.
:oops:

Re: Logs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:03 pm
by Irania
Alli Zelos wrote:
Kevin Lightdot wrote: If you have a log that big you should seriously consider rehab.
:oops:
= :oops: too ....mine is too big to even open anymore.

Re: Logs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:34 pm
by Kevin Lightdot
The whole too big to open thing is more like notepad being a bitch, I had that once long ago with a 1mb txt file.

You could try opening it in word or look on the internets for another program.

Re: Logs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:58 pm
by Aldan Vian
Irania wrote:
Alli Zelos wrote:
Kevin Lightdot wrote: If you have a log that big you should seriously consider rehab.
:oops:
= :oops: too ....mine is too big to even open anymore.
:oops: x3 Mine for Tak is...way bigger than 6 gigs...

Re: Logs

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:10 am
by Flux
Irania wrote:
Alli Zelos wrote:
Kevin Lightdot wrote: If you have a log that big you should seriously consider rehab.
:oops:
= :oops: too ....mine is too big to even open anymore.
Mine's nearly 100mb and it opens fine given long enough, and pretty much instantly in notepad2.

@Aldan: Noone wants to hear your fake claims around here. You do realise that 6 gigabytes of text is around 130 million lines? You just make yourself sound foolish.

Re: Logs

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:03 am
by Aldan Vian
Flux wrote: @Aldan: Noone wants to hear your fake claims around here. You do realise that 6 gigabytes of text is around 130 million lines? You just make yourself sound foolish.
Crap, looking that over I do look foolish, I actualy miscalculated there, I'm not all that computer literate. -_- :oops: x10

Re: Logs

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:36 pm
by Nitram
The client that will be released with the VBU will create a new logfile every month. That will resolve the problems at opening the logfiles with the default editor of some operating systems.

How ever good editors are still able to open that files. Notepad++ is a free example for windows of such a editor able to open very large text files. For Linux gEdit or Kate do the job. No clue about MacOS X.

Nitram

Re: Logs

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:17 pm
by Skamato
Hi!


For Mac try Kod or Editra....

Re: Logs

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:17 am
by Orioli
Nitram wrote:The client that will be released with the VBU will create a new logfile every month. That will resolve the problems at opening the logfiles with the default editor of some operating systems.

How ever good editors are still able to open that files. Notepad++ is a free example for windows of such a editor able to open very large text files. For Linux gEdit or Kate do the job. No clue about MacOS X.

Nitram
:shock: When it gives a new log file will it also save the old one for you?

Re: Logs

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:58 am
by Llama
I'm sure he just means that instead of having one log, you'll have a ton of logs each with 1 months' of stuff. There's no reason why it shouldn't keep the old ones as well you know ;)

Re: Logs

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:43 am
by Achae Eanstray
I don't suppose it is possible if at this time, the emotes i.e. "begins to pick herbs, fell in a mud puddle and dropped that herb" or whatever it is :wink: would NOT be written to the log file thereby saving a lot of writing space? That would allow more room and instead of lots of little monthly ones could make them longer possibly as much as 6 months to a year.

Re: Logs

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:16 am
by Nitram
With the new client the current chat log will be called chat.log and all older ones will be named chat.log.YYYY-MM.log where YYYY is replaced with the year the log was written in (e.g. 2011) and MM is replaced by the month that is covered by the logfile.

So everything remains saved, but searching and reading the logs will be easier.

On filtering the logcontents:
Its not planned, everything is written in. The amount of data created by chat logfiles is that insignificant compared to the sizes of current storage devices, that there is no use what so ever in reducing the amount of data logged. And everything that is not logged, is not logged. Means the data is gone. Filtering the chat for viewing is possible at all times too, with a appropiate application.

Nitram

Re: Logs

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:39 am
by Estralis Seborian
Would it require a lot of effort to add the informs and whisper informs to the chat log as well? AFAIK, those aren't logged atm. After the VBU, we'll use informs on a much broader base (quest progress etc) which might imply that informs become valuable information for the player.

Also, we try to get rid of "auto emote spam" which renders Achae's request obsolete :-).

Re: Logs

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:44 am
by Nitram
That would only require removing the filter that excludes the informs from the logfile. Its not much of a issue.