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I've noticed that the amount of 'work' for smiths seems to be suffering. Smiths usually make most money from armour. So I'm asking fighters to kindly fill this 'survey' so I can see what the 'problem' seems to be. This isn't an official thing, I'm just trying to understand so I can propose changes.

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[b]What main armour do you use?[/b]:
[b]Where did you obtain the armour from?[/b]:
[b]How long ago was it obtained?[/b]:
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[b]If you use 'practice armour', what do you use?[/b]
[b]Where did you obtain the armour from?[/b]
[b]How long ago was it obtained?[/b]
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[b]How 'skilled' is the fighter?[/b] - Just give a general impression
[b]What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy?[/b]

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For obtaining - please pick one:

A) Monsters
B) Player Smith
C) Treasure Map
D) NPC vendor
E) Other (gifts et cet)

Thanks.

Magical elven armor
treasure hunt
i think longer than a half year(RL)
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plate armor/chain mail
from a red skeleton
a half year ago or more
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quiet good skills
light

EDIT: *hugs the lama*

My char has spent about 120 silver coins on smithed goods during the last three real time months, you are just not online often enough to sell much. There are also two more smiths in Bane, who are both highly skilled and more active than you.

What main armour do you use?: Magical elven
Where did you obtain the armour from?:(have 2, one is back up) got one from treasure, had the other made by a smith
How long ago was it obtained?:both were gotten 3-6 months ago.
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use?:light elven
Where did you obtain the armour from?:from a smith
How long ago was it obtained?:3-4 months ago
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Just give a general impression~ in the yellow
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy?: Light

Velisai wrote:My char has spent about 120 silver coins on smithed goods during the last three real time months, you are just not online often enough to sell much. There are also two more smiths in Bane, who are both highly skilled and more active than you.

Yeah I know, that's why I'm not jumping up and blaming it already - I just want to see how many people actually BUY from smiths, and whether the armour lasts too much or not.

I blame it mostly on rumors.

Somewhere along the way someone made up the rumor that magical elven armor is some kind of super great armor (when it fact its actually not very good, most it does it provide medium defense with little magic drawback). So alot of people will simply hunt for these 'rare' armors and not use anything else. The same goes for Shadow plate (in this case the armor is much better then magical elven but still)

Heavy armor can ruin ones ability to dodge to the degree where i've seen people pass it up entirely. taking minor damage will never be better then taking no damage (a sucesssful dodge) Imo

But i think if you want to talk armor you need to speak of more then the chest piece. The rest of it counts as well.

Though lets not pretend that its the fault of armor that there are never any smiths around to cover the demands of people around them

What main armour do you use?: Magical elven/Chain shirt (chain pants,steel gloves,chain helmet, steel boots)
Where did you obtain the armour from?: Map/NPC's
How long ago was it obtained?: 4 months (magical elven chest piece) 1 month-2 months (chain armor and the rest due to the occasional replacements)
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use?: (Same as above)
Where did you obtain the armour from?: (same as above)
How long ago was it obtained?: (same as above)

How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Just give a general impression~ yellows
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy?: Light

What main armour do you use?
Elven Silversteel/light hunters armor

Where did you obtain the armour from?
Presents^^

How long ago was it obtained?
Armors last quite long...let it be a month...

If you use 'practice armour', what do you use?
Same armor i use in combat (Silversteel/hunter)

Where did you obtain the armour from?
No additional comment.

How long ago was it obtained?
Look above.

How 'skilled' is the fighter? Just give a general impression
Started smashing reds.

What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy?
Both, depends on the chars. Mainly light, but the heavy armored char is better.

I'm not a fighter, but I always use Magical Elven Armour which I obtained probably from a YR map whenever the hype around them first started. Well over a year ago. No fighting skillz (well, turquoise) and I either use Magical Elven or nothing. Counts as practice armour too.

I just want to see how many people actually BUY from smiths, and whether the armour lasts too much or not.

I never buy armor or tools from NPCs and the only monster-dropped ironware I use are serinjah-swords and scissors.

Armour lasts very long, same as clothes. My first silversteel served me a very long time, during which I was fighting regularly, but it never lost even one single level of durability. It rotted away eventually, when I had to drop it on the ground. All following armors were lost due to being ghosted and one was stolen.

I would have thought that something like Magical Elven Armour would be a rather rare find, certainly not something that could be found being donned by your ordinary, average warrior. And yet it seems that everyone and their mum owns a suit.

Anything to make uzpwngud!!!1! I guess.

What main armour do you use?: chain mail
Where did you obtain the armour from?: smithed myself
How long ago was it obtained?: over 6 RL month ago
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use?: chain mail
Where did you obtain the armour from?: smithed myself
How long ago was it obtained?: over 6 RL month ago
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How 'skilled' is the fighter?: good enough for red skeletons
What kind of armour you use in general?: light

Grokk wrote:I would have thought that something like Magical Elven Armour would be a rather rare find, certainly not something that could be found being donned by your ordinary, average warrior. And yet it seems that everyone and their mum owns a suit.

Anything to make uzpwngud!!!1! I guess.

Considering magical elven armor serves no great purpose for the classic fighter its not that odd. The thing about it is that it's not rare because it's not really that great (unless you use magic). And is in fact one of the lesser defensive armors in the game

it's all hype ^^ it's not rare, it's not uber at all. Ugly old plate armor provides more defense then magic elven.

but magical elven is shiner, maybe if more armor doubled as a flashlight people might be more diverse.

What main armour do you use?: Chain at first because couldn't afford any other. Leather boots, leather greaves, chain helmet, leather gloves.
Where did you obtain the armour from?: loot at first, later bought
How long ago was it obtained?: I save the good, bought armor (still chain) for special occasions so it has been awhile.
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Anything I can get as loot, or nothing.
Where did you obtain the armour from?.......
How long ago was it obtained? recently
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Just give a general impression ..fairly skilled (red skeletons)
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Light

(as an aside, have tried to buy a shield on a NUMBER of occasions and never can find anyone to sell)

What main armour do you use?: Silversteel
Where did you obtain the armour from?: from a Smith
How long ago was it obtained?: 3 months ago for the last one.
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Chain or leather.
Where did you obtain the armour from? from a Smith/Tailor unless get in loot
How long ago was it obtained? 2 months ago
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Just give a general impression ..red skeletons
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Medium?

What main armour do you use?: Elven silversteel but leather scale when i train
Where did you obtain the armour from?: Cromwell and Jefferson
How long ago was it obtained?: 2 months maybe
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Leather scale
Where did you obtain the armour from? Bandits
How long ago was it obtained? Weekly
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How 'skilled' is the fighter?: Slightly above average
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Heavy

What main armour do you use?: Silversteel
Where did you obtain the armour from?: PK
How long ago was it obtained?: Some months?
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Heavy plate armor
Where did you obtain the armour from? Monster drop
How long ago was it obtained? No idea, a year?
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - ~70% (absolutely no motivation to PG anymore)
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Best.

Guys for 'where you obtained it from' - could you kindly pick one of the following?

A) Monsters
B) Player Smith
C) Treasure Map
D) NPC vendor
E) Other (gifts et cet)

What main armour do you use?: Light Mercenary Armor, chainmailpants, Steelgloves, light helmets, leather boots
Where did you obtain the armour from?: From a smith
How long ago was it obtained?: Around 4 months ago
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? same
Where did you obtain the armour from? same
How long ago was it obtained? same
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Around...60-70%?
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Light.

What main armour do you use?: Chain-mail, except steel gloves/steel boots(excellent,new)
Where did you obtain the armour from?: Lizard community/ gift
How long ago was it obtained?: some irl months ago
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Chain-mail (same as above)
Where did you obtain the armour from? see above
How long ago was it obtained? see above
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? I believe everything but tactics to be on 100%,
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Light

Estralis Seborian wrote:Where did you obtain the armour from?: PK

Best answer.

What main armour do you use?: LEATHER stuff! God damnit, we need more tailors that can craft non-shitty leather armors.
Where did you obtain the armour from?: I have no clue, probably monsters, since there are no good tailors around that can be arsed to do armors.
How long ago was it obtained?: Looong, I want a new one.
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? I don't need practice armour, I'm a mage.
Where did you obtain the armour from? ^
How long ago was it obtained? ^
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Just give a general impression[/b] It's a mage, he's .. uh, 85% of his maximum skills? I guess?
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Leather, metal for mages is stupid.

MoonDust wrote:What main armour do you use?: LEATHER stuff! God damnit, we need more tailors that can craft non-shitty leather armors.

I bet Dji knows where to get some

What main armour do you use?: light elven, but magic elven when i have it
Where did you obtain the armour from?: smiths or gifts
How long ago was it obtained?: um... awhile. then it rotted when i set it down for three seconds
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? light elven or chain
Where did you obtain the armour from? gnolls for chain, smith or gift for light elven
How long ago was it obtained? not sure
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - I'd say only slightly over average. He does a lot more RP then PG
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Light, although he has the strength for heavy easily

What main armour do you use?: elven silversteel

Where did you obtain the armour from?: Other. A friend and I found it on the ground amongst a pack of wolves. I think someone had died there...

How long ago was it obtained?: A month maybe
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Chain mail
Where did you obtain the armour from? Gift from a friend
How long ago was it obtained? Same day I found the elven.
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - A little under average. I die all the time.
What kind of armour you use in general? Heavy...mostly.

Anyone else want to say something?

I want to say a lot of things.

AlexRose wrote:I want to say a lot of things.

Well, you just go print a picture of yourself, and stay talking to that old fellah what you say?

Hadrian_Abela wrote:

AlexRose wrote:I want to say a lot of things.

Well, you just go print a picture of yourself, and stay talking to that old fellah what you say?

Funny thing is he'd probably enjoy more talking to a picture of himself than to a real person. :B

The fighters not only buy from Smiths, but tailors and cooks. I hope the prices, items to buy isn't increased drastically. Not knowing much of other fighters, and just from my own experience, it would be difficult if not impossible if no loot to be able to train particularly a newly made fighter especially in the winter months in game.

What main armour do you use?: Dwarven State Armor
Where did you obtain the armour from?: Skilled Smith
How long ago was it obtained?: A week ago
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If you use 'practice armour', what do you use? Dwarven State Armor
Where did you obtain the armour from? Skilled smith
How long ago was it obtained? A week ago
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How 'skilled' is the fighter? - Just give a general impression Light blue : (
What kind of armour you use in general? Light? Heavy? Heavy since my chance to dodge is low, agility of 10