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Powergaming?
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:53 pm
by Leinad
Earlier today a halfling by the name of Vishigan attempted to assassinate me with poison after this he decided to argue with me about the natures of powergaming, i told him i had mastered parrying and slashing weapons and that i was quite good at magic resistance, as he said he could easily beat me as he is a mage, he argued for quite some time and eventually said i was powergaming and he left at that and told me he was going to get everyone on the forum against me by saying i was, i have been playing with Leiand for 3 weeks now, Tienos for just over a year... With Leinad it was easy to amster parry, i just fought demons and rotworms then moved onto spiders, yet he did not want to hear that and thus insisted on my powergaming by getting someone to hit me and vice versa... I just wanted to tell you this as he will probably start to flame me on the boards pretty soon and this will save alot of time...
-DD- aka Tienos, Leinad
lier
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:07 pm
by Vindigan
hahah, get everyone on the forum to go against you? you wouldnt listen to me so i thought i would post it on the boards so i could say what i thought.
i never hit you or got anyone to hit you what bs will you come up with next?
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:11 pm
by Leinad
Please don't spam my pole with flaming, only use it for an opinion, and i did not say you were hitting me or anyone was hitting me, you made me drink poison.
what?
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 4:40 pm
by Vindigan
by the way, after reading your poll question again, i realise it dosnt make sense...
It sounds like you are asking what happend today was powergaming.
You talk more about me than the question therefore it dosnt make sense...
what exactaly IS your question?
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:15 pm
by Muck
there is only one information missing:
where is ur magic resistance and how got it there.
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:43 pm
by Vindigan
i think he told me that it was to the s in resistance
and i think the only way to get resistance is by having spells cast on you...
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:17 pm
by Serpardum
I would tend to agree with Muck, the question is, how did you get your magic resistance so high?
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 10:25 pm
by Cuderon
Uhm...
Maybe you both should give more weight to perform roleplay? I don´t know you iG but what you wrote here doesn´t sound like you play your character...
With Leinad it was easy to amster parry, i just fought demons and rotworms then moved onto spiders
Did I get it right? You play a halfling? Maybe you better read the description of the halfling folk again at
Moonsilvers Realm. And even if you are not playing a halfling, remember that good old Tina Turner song called "We don`t need no other hero" because there are already to much heroes on Illarion. Be a real hero and play a stupid cabbage farmer, that´s one of the greatest quests: to survive as a cabbage farmer only.
My two cents.
P.s.: I did
not participate this senseless poll, the rules are described exactly on this site.
[edit] too many heroes and this horrible song [/edit]
Magic Res
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 10:22 am
by Leinad
My magic resistance is to the g in magic..., an elf mage tried to kill me one day and i did die eventually, but he kept paralysing me and casting ice bolt on me, after that it was around the g, then a few more people came to get me as friends of the elf...
Dwarf
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 10:25 am
by Leinad
Oh and its Vishigan whos a halfling, im a dwarf, and i am a master blacksmith as goes with dwarfing...
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:34 am
by Muck
with all these information i won't say it was powergaming.
but the discussion about the skills is no roleplay.
but i don't know ur character, and can't say anything about, that u go fighting against demon, spider ...
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:52 pm
by Sean Elaski
it doesent matter does it? I mean if the hobbit is killing spiders, thats odd in the realm, and a hobbit threatening with OOC is against the rules, so your BOTH in the wrong.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 1:38 pm
by Roke
Virtually all people can not get magic resistance that high in that short of time unless they powergame... mine was not as high as that, at any time.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 3:40 pm
by Cain Freemont
....
This is in reply to both Vindigan's topic and Leinad's topic.
Mannelig and Chyan Guo...that's what I have to say. Leinad, you even start by misspelling Vin's name 3 times. Both of you are just trying to get each other in trouble. This topic will probably never be solved...most are not... in my honest opinion. The very fact that the two of you are arguing over whether or not he was powergaming just proves that you are both out to get the other in trouble for something or another, at any cost. I highly doubt that the GM's will really bother to check the logs...especially if you two keep this Mannelig VS. Messenger episode up much longer.
As for making a poll out of this...
How ridiculous. And I do not say that to be mean, but rather to state the truth. It is simple enough to explain your situation and say, "Is this powergaming?" Your argument in which we are supposed to say "aye" or "nay" to is not even on the straight track of thinking. You begin to talk about how you mastered parry and whatever the heck else in 3 weeks. I thought, "Ok, makes sense, I can answer to that." However, then you go and talk about what happened that day and how Vin was acting and how he tried to assassinate you. And THEN you go to talk about how you have been playing with Leinad for 3 weeks and Tienos for over a year. After reading all of it, I decided it would be pointless to even bother casting my vote as it would have no effect since the boards arent exactly a democracy. The question makes no sense and the requested answer is what makes even less sense.
Both of you should be ashamed for trying to get the other in trouble for something or another. I highly doubt that even 50% of each of your information is even true, but rather a twisted form of vague statements each of you previously made.
Your acquaintance,
General
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 4:14 pm
by Leinad
Guys, enough now ok, i don't care about vin anymore that was yesterday its a whole new day...
@CF: Dont bother trying to tell us both what we are doing wrong, its just an argument, don't get yourself involved it has nothing to do with you, if you want to comment just say your opinion on the matter, not your opinion on the people
@Vin: I am now apologizing to you for saying stuff and i want this lot to end, people like CF keep posting silly things taking up alot of space so no more posts please.
@Anyone else reading: Don't bother posting anything more on this post, its ended now yes? vanished gone kaput, im busy making graphics for Illarion and i don't want to have to write replys to eveyone.
-DD-aka Leinad, Tienos and co.
P.S If you want to see some of my graphics for Illarion go to
my graphics page
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 9:18 pm
by Peter Lonin
RP is always more important then skills, but who says halfling can't fight? Just cause I'm short doesn't mean I can't fight. And if you want to get you MR up just make a bunch of mages really made at you and run. Thats what I did.

Silly old ganondalf couldn't hurt a fly with his magic.
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 3:47 pm
by Caranthir the great
RP is always more important then skills, but who says halfling can't fight? Just cause I'm short doesn't mean I can't fight.
In my opinion there are far too many "I-have-all-fighting-skills-and-MR-maxed, two-handed sword and full-body armor" -halflings running around.
Halflings should be the most peaceful creatures of illarion, just because Mr. Baggins could take the one ring to the mount doom doesn't mean that he should run around with two-handed sword.
And if you want to get you MR up just make a bunch of mages really made at you and run. Thats what I did.
Why?
JUST to get your MR high? was that the main reason to "make a bunch of mages really made at you"?
oh dear
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:29 pm
by Vindigan
Ok, so almost everyone who posted here has gotten somthing wrong...
for a start, this post has nothing to do with me, it was a poll to ask wether "it was powergaming or not"
Leinad is a Dwarf, not a halfling.
Cain freemont, this is not the same as the other two because if you look at my other topic you will see that i mentioned no names, just class's, therefore i would have got no-one in trouble. I just wanted to know if it was powergaming or not.
DO NOT POST HERE!
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 11:49 pm
by Leinad
This subject was cleared up a long, long while ago so will you PLEASE stop posting here, it gets annoying for me, i am doing a website for illarion and i dont have time for this, thanks by the way Vin, i have said 3 times i'm not a halfling but people don't read the whole story sometimes!
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:14 am
by Caranthir the great
Peter Lonin is a halfling isn't he?
I was not talking towards neither of you.
This subject was cleared up a long, long while ago so will you PLEASE stop posting here, it gets annoying for me,
Then dont reply. But as long as other people are interested to write on this topic, they should be allowed to do so.
Ok, so almost everyone who posted here has gotten somthing wrong...
Leinad is a Dwarf, not a halfling.
You didn't bother to read my post?
All the quotes were taken from mr. Lonin's post, I didnt even mention Leinad.
i'm not a halfling but people don't read the whole story sometimes!
Still, the post wasn't directed towards you.
Perhaps you should look from whom I quoted from?

Stop it!
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 10:24 am
by Leinad
I crated this for a discussion, that sdiscussion has reached its climax and the result is staisfied, do not bother trying to bring it back up, it all happened about a week ago, its gone now, let it rest, me and Vin are good friends now.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 10:34 am
by Dyluck
The discussion is no longer only about you or vindigan. It is now a discussion about what is powergaming and roleplay. You do not need to engage in this discussion if you don't want to.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:52 pm
by Vindigan
Ok Caranthir, my post wasnt directed at you, i was telling the people that he was a dwarf, look back and read Cuderon's and Elaski's posts.
So your post is a replie to somthing that never happend, we never said that your post was directed at us..
