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alright, i've been looking to play an new character and been doing some trying. the latest one i thought i would try is a mage fairy. i thought i would ask what you guys think about fairies casting magic before i go about trying. my argument is for it. they are kind of magical to begin with. i can see fairies wanting to find a new way to pull pranks (what better way then magic, say opening a portal in front of someone running.. ) also their small size would lead them to find some way to defend themselves. now while they may not fight i have always heard stories about how fairy cities are magically hidden (illusion). that's what i think anyway. but like i said i'm looking for your opinions so go ahead and say what you think (exception to this is Alex, no flaming. period.)

Are you a fairy specialist? I would suggest for you to broaden your horizons and play a different race sometime.

The flaming comment is just asking for trouble the mods try to keep a tight control on that anyway.

Yes, have a magical fairy. Makes sense to me, unless spells would be sized to the user, and then a wind spell cast by a fairy would not be effective at all.

i do human and lizard, i started as an elf but i just have a thing for flying.

edit: also tried a couple dwarfs to. one was a lot of but got boring after the war ended.

edit:2 oh and did gnome to.

edit:3 found this under races, "They are naturally talented spellcasters." however still want your guys opinion.

I would suggest Julius loses some weight, the fat seems to clog his thinking.
On topic, well, on the front page it does say as part of world description:

"All characters around you will behave themselves like real beings in this independent, mysterious world. They'll tell you about magicians, ghosts, and fairies in some of the most unbelievable stories and rumours. Druids and magicians will cast mysterious spells with herbs and runes."

Adding this overall mystical description of the world to your vision of a fairy, it sounds fine to me, but I am not a GM, and they sometimes have strange criteria for drawing lines between acceptable and unacceptable.
A player tried making a creature who was turned magically into a half cat, and that was not allowed, even though that did not have any advantages technically or Rp-wise to the character.
Fairies, with their crazy high magic resistance could potentially be unstoppable magical weapons if given magic. So who knows, best bet is to ask GMs.

I always stayed away from Magic in Illarion and played a plain boring fighter, because it seems like "special" properties get only approved upon quests.

and lets not start on how the fairy would have to wait in line for liek 3 years to get a teacher which really is retarded. the mage package shoudl be removed from the startup of new chars until magic is abel to be actualy started with

I'm sorry to say this, Thanistian,
but noone of the mage teacher would teach a fairy (or even a dwarf) magics, just because out of the racial background.

First: A comment that is not inflammatory at all:
Portal spell requires maxed pervestigatio, so if your trick is to throw people into portals, then fine, but you'll have to do a hell of a lot of pging, and no way should fairies have to train any less than everyone else.

B. Non flaming comment:
You are not biased to fairies at all. You are a very intelligent person who is not annoying whatsoever. These posts are very constructive and not a waste of time, and I simply love your proposal through and through, it's a complete work of genius.

I don't see anything wrong with fairy mages, although they'd mostly focus on illusion spells and the like. I can't imagine a fairy casting an explosion and killing things.

And you play a lizard? Who?

1. Yeah nothing wrong with fairy mages, but the problem is that fairys naturally are more of a childish misbehaviour type of creature, which normally draws outmuch of the teachers patience, because most mages tink that magic is serious buisness, not something you should toy around with*doesn't look atwilliam at all*.
2.As allready said you should stay on illusion spells, the problem there is that almost noone lets their chars react a natrual way on fireballs or such, most simply ignore it, guess if someone pulls a gun and shoots beside themthey will stay completly calm aswell..
3.To the dwarfs comment, it wouldn't hurt if you read the racial description on moon silver, dwarves have their own magic, which has NOTHING to do with the arcane knowledge, I dunno how often one must tell you that and their the natural affection to metal would destroy their "connection" to the streams anyway.

Actually I think there are some misconceptions with fairies if you read their background information. There is absolutely "nothing" wrong with playing a fairy mage, however, I would like to point out a few things for your consideration.

A habit of a count in Albar has once been known to hunt and chain fairies, then cutting and selling their wings, but since fairies are very rare in human lands, very few fairies were caught. He was killed after he suddenly combusted, whislt walking in public with a powerful protective amulet around his neck, which burst into flames; after that, all his fairies were quickly released. It is said that his daughter, who had befriended these creatures, became the only female albarian countess who was able to claim her father's land as her own property. (this leads me to believe that either the fairies did use some kind of aggressive magic or.... the daughter of an Albarian lord used some sort of magic and burst her father into flames. Both are rather odd since it is generally believed that Albarians don't do magic and fairies don't do aggressive magic )

Different from humans, such nobles do not own any land since fairies are convinced that land cannot be owned. Because of this, they often think of humans as very stupid beings. (optimizes elves as your teacher of choice)

Like elves, the fairies have generally a good understanding of nature and life, usually they respect every living being. (another knock on using aggressive magic, but it does say generally. So as with the Albarian lord scenario there was a human enslaving and harming fairies. What if someone was harming nature or other living beings without regard? Could the fairies teach the evildoer a lesson?)

Like elves, they hate unnatural things like smelly undead or mean things like dangerous demons. (once again reason to argue that fairies CAN use aggressive magic if facing the undead or a demon, but would probably just fly away.)

They are naturally talented spellcasters. Even though they often seem to get bored and loose concentration if they have to study for too long, their natural talent and curiosity are high. (This was already addressed but if their natural talents are so vast that they don't need to study then there really isn't a problem.)

source is obviously the Wiki

Now as to finding a teacher it is all in the RP regardless if you are a fairy or a goblin. Crap or boring rp = not getting to learn magic. Use you common sense when you play your fairy mage, know that they are giggly and playful, respectful to nature and life, and gifted magically. Don't be stupid and try to pk people.

Good luck, can always use a few more playful fairies ig.

well, i don't play fairies or mages or elves.
but i think, fairies should have magic without sitting in school first. (but limited to weaker spells)
elves should learn magic only from other elves. (never from shortlived creatures)

Korm Kormsen wrote: but i think, fairies should have magic without sitting in school first. (but limited to weaker spells)

Than we got thousand fairys who have no idea what magic is and how it works, yeah like we don't have other people with magic but with no idea what it is allready.

Pellandria wrote:

Korm Kormsen wrote: but i think, fairies should have magic without sitting in school first. (but limited to weaker spells)

Than we got thousand fairys who have no idea what magic is and how it works, yeah like we don't have other people with magic but with no idea what it is allready.

At least they'll have done the special race essay.

Pellandria wrote:

Korm Kormsen wrote: but i think, fairies should have magic without sitting in school first. (but limited to weaker spells)

Than we got thousand fairys who have no idea what magic is and how it works, yeah like we don't have other people with magic but with no idea what it is allready.

Most likely they would be screened before their fairy gets to play, a gm meets with them, probably would test their knowledge of magic, and from that its a pass or fail. Some fairies may have to end up being taught and some wouldn't. It all depends on the character and probably the PO.

Uhh this is not happening...gms don't have time for this. At least that is what I have read from similar suggestions.

It already does happen.
Fairies are a special race and need to be checked before they are allowed to play. So a mage fairy has to take a small test that takes like 10 mins.

Korm Kormsen wrote:well, i don't play fairies or mages or elves.
but i think, fairies should have magic without sitting in school first. (but limited to weaker spells)
elves should learn magic only from other elves. (never from shortlived creatures)

I agree.

Laendrelle wrote:

Korm Kormsen wrote:well, i don't play fairies or mages or elves.
but i think, fairies should have magic without sitting in school first. (but limited to weaker spells)
elves should learn magic only from other elves. (never from shortlived creatures)

I agree.

/signed

I am all for magical fairies I think it makes perfect sense to have a fiary that can use magic as they are MAGICAL CREATURES